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07-03-2009, 6:26 AM
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Model Maniac
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USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350
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Trumpeter's USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350 - by Toom: If 15 film frames are not enough, there are 30 more digital pictures available in my latest page: http://www.falconbbs.com/model48d.htmComments and suggestions are welcome!
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07-03-2009, 9:10 AM
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searat12
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Re: USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350
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Very nice work! I especially like the paint jobs for the floatplanes, though it might have been a good idea to mask off the canopies?....
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07-03-2009, 9:15 AM
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warshipguy
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Re: USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350
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Excellent build! Although the weathering seems heavy, it serves to bring out details. I much prefer ships not to be camouflaged; camouflage hides the lines and the details. I like what you have done! Bill Morrison
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07-03-2009, 12:25 PM
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ddp59
Joined on 04-03-2005
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Re: USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350
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you have your 2 aft gun directors(mk34 & mk37) pointed forward instead of toward the stern. the 2 side gun directors(mk37) above the 5" gun turrets should be pointed out not forward.
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07-03-2009, 2:14 PM
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subfixer

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Re: USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350
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Overall this is well done. My main beef is the immacculate condition of the hull below the waterline; it just does not jibe with the heavy weathering of the rest of the model. But we've discussed this before. Also, as pretty as the decks are, they should be painted.
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07-03-2009, 3:16 PM
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ps1scw

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Re: USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350
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Either remove the Union Jack and jackstaff or move the National Colors to the fantail.
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07-03-2009, 5:22 PM
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plastickjunkie

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Re: USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350
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Very nice build overall. I specially like the color variation on the deck. Too bad the crane and aircraft catapults are not PE, it would have enhanced the details even more.
Too little time, too many models to build..........
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07-03-2009, 11:27 PM
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subfixer

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Re: USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350
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ps1scw wrote: | | Either remove the Union Jack and jackstaff or move the National Colors to the fantail. |
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(Ditto)
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07-04-2009, 12:32 AM
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RedCorvette

Joined on 01-13-2006
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Re: USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350
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Nicely built, but the weathering is way too heavy in my opinion. Mark
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07-04-2009, 7:28 AM
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warshipguy
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Re: USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350
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Ditto to the comment about the Union Jack and national flag. Bill Morrison
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07-04-2009, 8:57 AM
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Mike F6F

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Virginia
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Nice OOB build. I echo the flag comments and you need to remove the insignia from the starboard wings of the two float planes. I'm not sure what year you've chosen for the model, but US aircraft markings of the type you show were only on the top of the port wing. If the markings were to be just the stars in the circles, they could be on both wings. The markings you've chosen were not used until mid to late 1943. A small nit to pick, but one you can change. Thanks for sharing. Mike
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07-05-2009, 5:46 PM
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CapnMac82

Joined on 11-09-2005
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Re: USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350
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She needs a specific time frame to be painted "to." For one, all USN horizontal surfaces are a different color than verticals. During much of WWII, that was a dark blue color, and wooden decks were stained a version of that color. Even Measure 21, overall blue had darker decks than sides. If this to be a post-war paint job, then she should have 96" tall shaded hull numbers, not the 36" unshaded war-time numerals. She ought to have draft markings, as well. But, this could be modified to Measure 22, which would be a good end-of-war paint scheme (and one for which reference materials abound, see: http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/i05000/i05560.jpg To keep the wooden decks wooden, the choice would be as she is now, a museum ship, but, she'd have significantly different weathering, too. (Not like the weathering that occurs with 1800 hands on board, with what was probably a six-division Deck Department to keep the ship in paint and the like). Or, render her as on her maiden voyage, see the photo linked below. The paravanes stowed just behind the breakwater ought to be a flat red, or a half-red, half-grey, with the other paravane half green-half grey. The capstans have bronze bodies, too. This is a missed oppertunity for color on otherwise bland vessels. Ought to be non-skid to protect the decks from the anchor chain, too. See: http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/k13000/k13971.jpg She needs either a flagstaff aft, or the jackstaff folded and secured--not half-and half. The Colors flown from the aft flagstaff will want to be larger than what is flying at the mast, too.
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07-05-2009, 6:42 PM
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EdGrune

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Re: USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350
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I'm not too sure about the weathering -- I think it is done in the "Verlinden Style", heavy black with drybrushing to bring the details. Some people like it. Far more egregious than the weathering, flags, or aircraft markings are the wavy railings and gaps between the bottom rail and the deck. MM, I hope you didn't spend a whole lot of money to have this model built for you. Your builders are once again paying poor attention to detail.
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07-06-2009, 5:23 PM
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CapnMac82

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Re: USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350
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Good catch on the railings--I'm thinking this is a real minimal set of PR from the box, which could explain the missing flagstaff (which is nearly as tall as the aircraft crane in photos). However, go back and look at the boat booms. They are weathered correctly, only at the ends, and not along the barrels of the booms, as is too often the case. Mind you, that may atract too much attention to where the accommodation ladders are/are not, but, that's life.
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07-08-2009, 4:16 AM
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Model Maniac
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Re: USS BB-55 North Carolina 1:350
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Many thanks for all kind comments, compliments and suggestions! I really appreciate them! A few people said that this is a OOB build which is incorrect. If you follow the instructions and build OOB, you'll end up with no riggings and no railings because the kit did not provide any materials or instructions for riggings and railings. This is an all-plastic kit with no PE of any kind provided. And though flag decals were provided, there were no instructions on where to apply them. ps1scw suggested about moving the Union Jack, the jackstaff, National Colors and fantail., Those are technical terms to me and I don't know what they are. Can you show in a picture about where they are now and where they're supposed to be? plasticjunkie would like PE catapults but that's not available for me here. All I could find locally for this ship is PE railings. Anyway, I have two ships with full options under construction by two modelers. They're IJN Battleship Matsu 1:350 w/ three detail-up sets (most expensive kit ever bought) and Oliver Hazard Perry 1:350 w/ detail-up parts from MK1, plus some more ships in stock. Summit asked how much time "Toom" spent on this ship. I don't know for sure but I guess it took him not less than 100 hours. EdGrune pointed out the wavy railings and gap between PE railings and the deck. There's a reason for that shortcoming. "Toom" has no car and he had to deliver the ship to me by a motorbike. He had to secure it in its box, bound with nylon threads, packed the box in his backpack with part of the box protruding from his back over his head and rode a long way to my home. I guess it's something not possible for you to do. You said he's not paying attention to details. Well, apart from building the riggings lines by burning & stretching CottonBud sprues, detailing-up the catapults, scratch-building the white life-rings around the ship, he also sought metal chains from a flea market for the ship. And do you know how many rounds of maskings and paintings were needed before he could turn plastic deck into wooden one? Same as warshipguy, I prefer this ship not to be camouflaged. "Toom" didn't paint it camo saying that he's not keen at painting camo colors. I think camo colors only hide details. For me, heavy weathering like this is OK. It sure looks better than a brandnew ship. ;-)
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07-08-2009, 10:33 AM
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subfixer

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Well, MM, as far as heavy weathering goes; the part of the ship that is underwater, the hull, should be just as heavily weathered as the rest of the ship, if not even more. As far as technical terms go; you've got a computer, just do a web search for these terms and you'll find all of the answers. Here is (by no means complete) a glossary of nautical terms: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms I am sure that Toom probably has no way of knowing what the bottom of a ship looks like as few people have the opportunity to see them in person, but you can find plenty of reference pictures on the web.
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07-08-2009, 10:59 AM
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plastickjunkie

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Model Maniac wrote: | | "Toom" has no car and he had to deliver the ship to me by a motorbike. He had to secure it in its box, bound with nylon threads, packed the box in his backpack with part of the box protruding from his back over his head and rode a long way to my home. |
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Wow!! My hat's off for Toom and his transportation method. He did one hell of a job at minimizing damage. It must have been one heck of a ride! Again, a very nice build.
Too little time, too many models to build..........
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07-08-2009, 1:11 PM
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Tracy White
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Model Maniac wrote: | | For me, heavy weathering like this is OK. It sure looks better than a brandnew ship. |
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This is what we call "personal preference." ![Big Smile [:D]](/emoticons/icon_smile_big.gif) It is why there is really no "wrong" way to build a model.
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07-09-2009, 10:56 AM
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Model Maniac
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subfixer, thanks for your link and pictures. Very informative but makes life harder for modeler. I'll let Toom know your suggestions. plastickjunkie, yes I was amazed to see his transportation method. A picture is worth a thousand words. Here's Toom's package: Tracy, you may say that again! BTW, since the above pictures don't show clearly the riggings, I'd like to show some more digital pics which got better lighting:
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