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Started by Schnobs at 06-16-2009 1:23 AM. Topic has 206 replies.
 
 
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06-16-2009, 1:23 AM
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Schnobs

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Re: #5 Trumpeter's German 38(H) Artillery Observation Vehicle WIP
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scratchmod wrote: | | OOPS, should have payed attention to what I was reading, Thanks Bill and Edmund. Guess I saw the picks first and thought, damn is he fast. I'll try to take in what I'm reading. I still like how you've come along with your builds Edmund. Rob |
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No worries I will warn people more clearly in the future when I post reference pics of models that are not my work. Appreciate the nice comments Rob.
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06-16-2009, 10:18 AM
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Schnobs

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Re: #5 Trumpeter's German 38(H) Artillery Observation Vehicle WIP
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Build Update: 38H Assembly Time: 6 Hours Yesterday was challenging to find any build time but I did manage to squeeze in two hours. I finished the very rudimentary interior and managed to get the fenders and cast front piece fit and glued. I still need to eliminate the seam by appling Milliput and I was thinking I could apply Mr. Surfacer or a cast a coat product to provide texture. Would this have been a smooth or rough cast surface? Here a few pics:
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06-16-2009, 11:00 AM
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Grem56

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Re: #5 Trumpeter's German 38(H) Artillery Observation Vehicle WIP
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I can't help you as far as the cast texture is concerned Edmund. The fit at front side would appear to be anything but TamiGawa. I love the big Hotchkiss nameplate but those gaps................. I also saw that Trump has one of these tanks with wurfrahmen fitted, might be an interesting subject. Julian ![Thumbs Up [tup]](/emoticons/icon_smile_thumbsup.gif)
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06-16-2009, 11:10 AM
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Schnobs

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Re: #5 Trumpeter's German 38(H) Artillery Observation Vehicle WIP
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Grem56 wrote: | | I can't help you as far as the cast texture is concerned Edmund. The fit at front side would appear to be anything but TamiGawa. I love the big Hotchkiss nameplate but those gaps................. I also saw that Trump has one of these tanks with wurfrahmen fitted, might be an interesting subject. Julian ![Thumbs Up [tup]](/emoticons/icon_smile_thumbsup.gif) |
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Hi Julian, Welcome to Build #5! Once I figure out where it should be a smooth or rough cast texture I will address the gaps. I love the Hotchkiss name plate as well but since it is cast everything should have a rough texture and my next steps I would think is to fill the gaps with milliput and then texture the remaining surface accordingly.
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06-16-2009, 11:46 AM
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Bodge

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Re: #5 Trumpeter's German 38(H) Artillery Observation Vehicle WIP
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Yes texture the cast parts as you would a sherman turret.
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06-16-2009, 12:05 PM
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Schnobs

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Re: #5 Trumpeter's German 38(H) Artillery Observation Vehicle WIP
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Bodge wrote: | | Yes texture the cast parts as you would a sherman turret. |
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LOL! And that would be how?????? Thanks Andy I have read a few posts and magazine articles about how Sherman guys apply a cast coat I just never payed that much attention. I will research and approach it as indicated.
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06-16-2009, 12:33 PM
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Schnobs

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Re: #5 Trumpeter's German 38(H) Artillery Observation Vehicle WIP
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Bodge wrote: | Just stipple on the mr surfacer ,wait a few mins and re stipple being carefull not to damage the lettering in the prosses.![Thumbs Up [tup]](/emoticons/icon_smile_thumbsup.gif) |
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Thanks Mate I will pick some up on the way home tonight!
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06-16-2009, 4:25 PM
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Schnobs

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Re: #5 Trumpeter's German 38(H) Artillery Observation Vehicle WIP
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Hey Bill. The plan is pick up some Mr. Surfacer on the way home tonight. I will sand down the glue on the seam, apply Milliput to all the gaps and then let dry possibly overnight followed by the application of Mr Surfacer over all three angles of the coast nose piece except for directly over the name plate.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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06-17-2009, 2:29 AM
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Schnobs

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Re: #5 Trumpeter's German 38(H) Artillery Observation Vehicle WIP
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Build Update: 38H Assembly Time: 8 Hours I was able to find Mr Surfacer at a LHS on the way home and after meeting my family commitments and the daily gym committment I attacked the gaps with Milliput. I then after watching a show with my wife and reading a tutorial or two on Mr. Surfacer applied three to four light stipled coats like Andy suggested. I really like how it turned out. I also got some hull details applied. Here is some pictures of this small little guy in progress. Build Update:
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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06-17-2009, 5:48 AM
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redleg12

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Re: #5 Trumpeter's German 38(H) Artillery Observation Vehicle WIP
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The artillery is observing excellent work thus far![Wink [;)]](/emoticons/icon_smile_wink.gif) Rounds Complete!!
"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."
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06-17-2009, 9:08 AM
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Schnobs

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Re: #5 Trumpeter's German 38(H) Artillery Observation Vehicle WIP
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Bodge wrote: | Lookin good mate, by the way your not allowed to do a better job than me LOL![Laugh [(-D]](/emoticons/icon_smile_newlaugh.gif) |
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LOL! Funny! If the plastic stays together and the paint stays on I have suceeded! Seriously the real challenge you had in which you were very successsfull at accomplishing and is my main goal as well is for the end product not to be toylike. Due it's diminuative size and lack of detail avoiding it looking like a toy is a real challenge. The lower hull and upper hull piece fit is going to be a nighmare and a study in patience!
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06-17-2009, 9:09 AM
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Schnobs

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redleg12 wrote: | | The artillery is observing excellent work thus far![Wink [;)]](/emoticons/icon_smile_wink.gif) Rounds Complete!! |
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Thanks Mike I will proceed with cautious optimisim!! ![Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]](/emoticons/icon_smile_swg.gif)
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06-17-2009, 9:36 AM
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Schnobs

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Re: #5 Trumpeter's German 38(H) Artillery Observation Vehicle WIP
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That's a great ideal Bill you would almost think you have built almost 100 models in a row with that suggestion! ![Big Smile [:D]](/emoticons/icon_smile_big.gif) I wll get right on that. I do have have a question on this vehcile. Do you think it had Hull Red as a primer or should I just use a primer grey and be done with it?
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06-17-2009, 9:52 AM
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scratchmod

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Looking good Edmund, the front of the hull came out great. Like Bill said, you can't tell it was seperate pieces. Rob
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06-17-2009, 10:32 AM
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Schnobs

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Re: #5 Trumpeter's German 38(H) Artillery Observation Vehicle WIP
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Morning Rob, Yeah that Mr. Surfacer is some awesome stuff. I will never have anymore kids after using it but it's cool! If California doesn't like Metalizer products they probally banned this stuff! I am working from home today so before I get into my inbox I am going to take Bill's advice and shoot a coat of MM Acryl Grey Primer on the lower hull to ensure that I didn't miss any cracks.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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06-17-2009, 11:11 AM
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Grem56

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Re: #5 Trumpeter's German 38(H) Artillery Observation Vehicle WIP
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Excellent "nose job" Edmund, looks better than Barbara Streisand ![Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]](/emoticons/icon_smile_swg.gif) cheers, Julian
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