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Started by shouldda at 01-23-2006 6:37 PM. Topic has 180 replies.

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01-23-2006, 6:37 PM

shouldda

Joined on 01-27-2005
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	Hello Firebird builders, Rodc, I laughed when I saw your "Peas and Carrots" CL-215, not that it isn't an excellent build, which it is. I saw the Newfoundland Airforce in action in June of 1996 in Dryden, Ontario. There were lots of starts (lightning) and it was hot dry and windy. There was an aggressive fire near the new Walmart at the edge of town, and in Dryden, that means boreal forest. Anyways the "Flying Dog's Breakfast" did some serious flying, helped to save the day and gave the new Walmart a good bath! Eddie, awesome work with that Apache. You have set a standard of excellence for the GB. Others, fltmedic,deattilo, chopperfan and myself are getting geared up for February 15, the official start. Joerugby and willjanuary, are you in? ALL ARE WELCOME! Welcome to Aaronw. Those GB logos look great! Cool that there is one for both fixed and rotary wing AC. Good work. The rules are simple, start and finish at least one Firebird by May 24 (pronounced "May 2-4": Queen Victoria's birthday, and in Canada, a bigger party date than New Years Eve). Previous starts are allowed but at least 60% of the kit must be uncompleted to qualify as a "new start". Those that complete by May 24 get their name entered in a luck draw. Aaronw, please feel free to start at your convenience. I have a feeling that it's going to be an early spring.
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01-24-2006, 9:57 AM

Aaronw

Joined on 06-12-2004
Yosemite, CA
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	Ok, well then unless someone else has an idea for a badge I'll clean those up. I was wondering if anyone knows more about the P-47, I have seen one pic of the P-47 fitted with large underwing drop tanks supposedly from one of the tanker tests. Anyone know if any were ever used even semi-operationally and did the water drop out of the tanks like other tankers or was it supposed to drop the tanks like bombs. I know some of the earlier ideas were focused on "bombing" the fire with things like wooden kegs full of water. The first operational tankers were just Ag planes with up to 150 gallons of water, I would think a P-47 could have carried more if they figured out a tank system for it. I was thinking a P-47 tanker would be kind of neat even if it is a "what if" build, but would be more fun if they had actually used them a couple of times, kind of an old school Firehog. http://www.geocities.com/cnf_e32/index.htm http://www.scalefirehouse.com/
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01-24-2006, 7:43 PM

eddie miller

Joined on 05-12-2004
Burton, Texas
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

shouldda wrote:

Eddie, awesome work with that Apache. You have set a standard of excellence for the GB. Others, fltmedic,deattilo, chopperfan and myself are getting geared up for February 15, the official start. Joerugby and willjanuary, are you in? ALL ARE WELCOME!

Thank you. I must say that if I'd had a "virgin" kit, I would have spent a more considerable amount of time to present a more detailed aircraft. I'm just tryin' to make lemonade out of a lemon this time around. Smile [:)]

Here's a test fit of the rotor assembly and a look at the engines from the rear.

Eddie

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01-24-2006, 8:52 PM

deattilio

Joined on 10-02-2005
SoCal
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	That makes for a pretty Apache. My B-17 should arrive by the start date, so I can churn out my firebomber. CURRENT PROJECTS: 1/48 Fokker D.VIII (Dragon) 1/35 LVTA5 Conv (ModelCraft) 1/700 LST (Skywave)
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01-27-2006, 1:19 PM

JoeRugby

Joined on 11-30-2003
Virginia
Posts 1,219

Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

shouldda wrote:
...Others, fltmedic,deattilo, chopperfan and myself are getting geared up for February 15, the official start. Joerugby and willjanuary, are you in? ALL ARE WELCOME!...

Ugh...Lets see -- 2 A26's in stash...Builds already in - "Aces", "Aussie", "Out of the Box", "Carrier"...Okay, this will officially make number five...that should be enough (then again who am I really kidding here?)

I am in -- 1/72 A26. I will go to www.scalefirebombers.com and pick my scheme...

Great call on this Build by the way...enormous amounts of options both real and "What Ifs"...Kewl, Kewl...

Check out the WW I Special Interest Group @
http://swannysmodels.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=WW1SIG

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01-28-2006, 6:34 PM

eddie miller

Joined on 05-12-2004
Burton, Texas
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	Here's how the beast looks today. I'm sure everyone can see the shaft extending from the bottom of the helo. That's so I can spin the rotors and make my son go"WOW"( he's 4, so he's easily impressed.) If anyone else asks, it's PTO shaft for an intake pump on a tank it can carry. Eddie
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01-28-2006, 11:36 PM

Aaronw

Joined on 06-12-2004
Yosemite, CA
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	That Apache is coming along nicely, its not obvious you started out with a gluebomb. I got some work done on the Avenger, I decided to go with a Sis-Q tanker. I've got it mostly together and the turret is faired over, I'll try to get some pics up soon. Well I did a little more tinkering on the GB badges, here they are. http://www.geocities.com/cnf_e32/index.htm http://www.scalefirehouse.com/
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02-01-2006, 8:11 PM

eddie miller

Joined on 05-12-2004
Burton, Texas
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	Thanks Aaron. I had a bit of a set back when I tried to put a flat coat on the main rotor assem. I either put it on too thick or it was too humid when I did it. The result was a cloudy finish. I had to repaint it. Here's the small bit of progress for tonight. Eddie
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02-02-2006, 8:58 PM

shouldda

Joined on 01-27-2005
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	Hello everyone, Big day today here in Wiarton, Ontario. Our famous white groundhog woke up and predicted an early spring. We better get organized for our official start! Fast approaching! Question- how do you include photos to this message? I would like to share a photo of an Otter I built a few years ago. I need a Leading Edge decal set for an Ontario CL-215, 1/72 Heller kit. ( What happened to Collector's Lane Hobbies in Scarborough?) Can anyone help by providing this decal set or a contact? Oddly enough when I started this GB I was prepared to free paint the kit, as I didn't know the aftermarket decal set existed. It makes an awesome job. Builders- Officially register for this GB by the 15th and qualify for an early bird luck draw! Others are welcome to build after the official date and will qualify for the final lucky draw upon completion of the Firebirds! kit by May 24, 2006.
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02-02-2006, 9:23 PM

eddie miller

Joined on 05-12-2004
Burton, Texas
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	I would like to throw my entry into the ring. Go to the community assistance part of the forum and there should be info on how to post photos. If you need any more help, PM me and I'll help out. Eddie
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02-03-2006, 6:42 AM

rodc

Joined on 04-17-2003
Newfoundland, Canada
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	shouldda, You can contact Dave @ Leading Edge Models directly. He will sell to you direct. Click the following link for ordering information: http://www.lemdecal.com/Direct%20page.html Regards, rodc Please visit the website dedicated to my late son www.matthewchurchill.ca On the Bench Right Now: 1/144 Revell Discovery Shuttle & Booster Rockets (20% completed)
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02-04-2006, 1:27 PM

deattilio

Joined on 10-02-2005
SoCal
Posts 364

Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	My B-17 finally arrived, and I think I have gathered all the pics available on the net of Tanker 89. The kit is MINICRAFT's 1/144 B-17G, thankfully its slightly larger than I was anticipating. But on the down side the feusalage seems a bit chunky, lacks the smaller windows, no entry doors or flaps are represented, and wings are a bit thick. Can't claim that it will look great, but it will look good. The effort will kick off on the begin date. CURRENT PROJECTS: 1/48 Fokker D.VIII (Dragon) 1/35 LVTA5 Conv (ModelCraft) 1/700 LST (Skywave)
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02-04-2006, 3:25 PM

DanCooper

Joined on 03-02-2004
Belgium
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	Hey Eddy, nice fire Apache you've got there, and I'm impressed to see what you made of that wreck of it. I just remember that I have the same old Revell kit laying around on the attick somewhere. I picked it up in a toy shop of all places for the price of 5 euros. Of course if I had seen the pieces in the box, I probably wouldn't have bought it even at that price. Skypename : Baldwynn If only my soul weighted more than 3 gramms, I would be happy to sell it...
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02-07-2006, 10:45 PM

Aaronw

Joined on 06-12-2004
Yosemite, CA
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	Ok, I finally got the camera out. I'm using an Academy 1/72 TBM Avenger, I turned the turret around and used putty to close over the turret opening. Since I wasn't really in the mood for alot of scractchbuilding I selected a photo of a SiS-Q Tanker 24, to base this on. Tanker 24 had a full length canopy and a tank that fit inside the bomb bay unlike many Avengers that had a larger tank hanging below and cutdown canopy. Here is where I'm at currently http://www.geocities.com/cnf_e32/index.htm http://www.scalefirehouse.com/
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02-11-2006, 1:13 AM

eddie miller

Joined on 05-12-2004
Burton, Texas
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	That Avenger is looking good! Here's the work I've done on the tail. I'm sure that the detail is a bit off, but it looks a bit better than the one I started out with. Eddie
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02-15-2006, 2:02 AM

Aaronw

Joined on 06-12-2004
Yosemite, CA
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	Well I got a little more done on the Avenger, I guess I'm going to have to start designing some decals for it. Eddie the Apache is looking good, I wonder when the Army will start retiring some so we might see the real thing? http://www.geocities.com/cnf_e32/index.htm http://www.scalefirehouse.com/
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02-17-2006, 4:13 PM

shouldda

Joined on 01-27-2005
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	Hello again, Well it's official, we've passed the official start date! Looks like we have fltmedic, deattilio,eddie miller,joe rugby, chopper fan, aaronw and myself in the group. I like that, nice size group of enthusiastic builders! Aaron, your Avenger is really neat! And Eddie, your helo inspires the imagination! Good work! I look forward to seeing each kit in progress. I will post progress myself. Everyone's wondering who won the earlybird draw. Yeterday I put everyones name on little slips of paper and got another person to pull one from a hat (I actually did this). It was Eddie! And well deserved! I have an extensive collection of badges and shoulder patches from my forest fire fighting days. Eddie, I will send you something neat. Highly recommended: http://www.bushplanes.com/ Check out the photos icon down the list on the left. Must go. Talk to you soon. Build on!
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02-18-2006, 8:45 AM

eddie miller

Joined on 05-12-2004
Burton, Texas
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	Thanks for the kind words about my project. Just tryin' to make some lemonade.... I'm glad to hear that you picked me in your drawing, especially if I get to have some firefighting patches. I've been in the firefighting business for a few years myself (aircraft crash&salvage in the USN and a volunteer firefighter where I live) and enjoy anything related. That's why this build appealed to me so much. Thanks again. I'm off to Austin to go to the LHS for supplies today. It's a 1 1/2 drive, but I gotta do it. Eddie
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03-03-2006, 6:44 PM

eddie miller

Joined on 05-12-2004
Burton, Texas
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	I'm a little closer to finishing this one. He's a progression of the work I've done. Also, take a look at this build. http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=9042 Eddie
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03-05-2006, 3:19 PM

cdclukey

Joined on 11-19-2004
Freeport, IL USA
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

	OK, I'm in! And I'm not only doing a "What If?," I'm doing one that's even wilder than Eddie's firehog and Apache builds, but still plausible. I'm going to do the old Revell 1/144 scale B-52G in Aero Union Colors. I'm going to "B-52ize" the scheme they fly on their P-3s, seen below: Imagine taking a BUFF and replacing the body fuel tanks with tanks for water/retardant. Imagine, mes amis, carpet-bombing a forest fire. Gives me a grin just thinking about it! I'll have to cobble the numbers together somehow, but this thing is going to look really cool when it's done. Thanks a ton Shouldda, for putting this GB out there, and for fighting fires. I know you guys just can't be thanked enough for what you do. On edit: I previewed the post, but I see that once it was posted the aft half of the profile drawing was cut off. First, here's a link to the drawing, which I found on scalefirebombers.com: http://www.scalefirebombers.com/p3_1.html Second, here's another, smaller pic of an aero Union P-3. Even if this gets chopped off, you'll get the idea:
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