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Started by Brumbles at 08-12-2007 3:11 PM. Topic has 2968 replies.
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   08-12-2007, 3:11 PM
Brumbles


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Re: Armor trivia

Maximum rate of fire 200 rounds per minute, according to the Wikipedia. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M242

Their page on the Coyote doesn't mention a diffferent rate of fire. 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_Reconnaissance_Vehicle

... and as we all know, the Wikipedia is the summation of all knowledge!

 



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   08-12-2007, 3:23 PM
Gun Tech


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Re: Armor trivia

You have part of the answer, 200 rpm is indeed the maximum rate of fire.    

 

There is more to it.


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   08-12-2007, 8:28 PM
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Re: Armor trivia

Ok how about this I found it on ask.com....

 

The M242 weapon system has both electrical and manual fire control and can be operated electrically or manually. In doing so, the gunner can choose from three rates of fire: (1) Single Shot Semi-Automatic, in which the gunner can shoot as fast as he or she can squeeze the trigger; (2) Low Rate Fully Automatic, in which the weapon fires 100 rounds a minute, plus or minus 25 rounds; and (3) High Rate Fully Automatic, in which the weapon fires 200 rounds a minute, plus or minus 25 rounds.

So basically it has 3 different rates of fire.  1 round.... 100 rounds... or 200 rounds....

Did I get it?

BTW is there a model available of the Coyote. I usually build WWII armor but she looks like a too COOL modern vehicle not to try.

 

 

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   08-12-2007, 9:20 PM
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Re: Armor trivia

Right on!   The gunner and commander can select the rate of fire from Single shot, 100 rpm or 200 rpm with their joysticks. The gun also as 2 ammunition channel (primary and secondary). So you can have 2 types of ammo, and just change between them from a flick of the joystick.

 

Maple Leaf Models is coming up with a conversion set for the LAV-25

http://www.mapleleafmodels.com/Modern.html

 


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   08-12-2007, 10:37 PM
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Re: Armor trivia

Ok. Guess I'm up.

 

During WWII this units M-8 Greyhound "knocked out" a Panther Tank.  Just before being crushed by the Panther.  Name the unit? 

Bonus points describe how the m-8 knocked out the Panther.

 

 

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   08-12-2007, 11:22 PM
roosterpelo


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Re: Armor trivia
The 7th Armored Division at Saint Vith. An M-8 armored car which pulled out behind a Tiger and destroyed it by 37mm hits in the engine compartment before it could manually traverse to destroy the armored car.The armored car would have been from one of the troops of the 87th Cavalry Squadron (7th Armored organic recce battalion) and the Tiger would probably be from the Fuehrer Begleit Brigade.

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   08-12-2007, 11:36 PM
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Re: Armor trivia
I thought the question read: "Panther"...???

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   08-12-2007, 11:43 PM
roosterpelo


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Re: Armor trivia
it did, but this is all i could come up with.

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   08-13-2007, 12:30 PM
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Re: Armor trivia

Didn't know about that one. But no this is a different incident that happened with a Panther.

 

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   08-13-2007, 2:09 PM
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Re: Armor trivia
Incidentally, incidents in which a tank (Tiger, Panther, T72) continues to fight after suffering a mobility kill are quite common. In WWII, American and British tankers considered an immolized tank "knocked out," and were sometimes surprised to find the turret moving as they approached it. During the Gulf War, there was at least one story of an Iraqi tank crew (T72 or T62, depending on who tells the story - I say probably a T62 or a T54/55 variant) taking an immobilizing hit, then traversing the turret around to the reverse in order to signal their surrender.

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   08-13-2007, 2:30 PM
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Re: Armor trivia
Well, this "knock out" to the Panther killed the crew but didn't damage the tank. At least not on the outside. Hint, Hint.. Smile [:)]
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   08-13-2007, 3:46 PM
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Re: Armor trivia

It was an AP round, hit the hatch which was was not thick enough to detonate it, richcheted, hit a hard metal object and then detonated, killing everything inside the tank but otherwise not damaging it.

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   08-13-2007, 4:41 PM
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Re: Armor trivia

Nope. Didn't hit the hatch. And you forgot to name the unit.

 

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   08-13-2007, 6:21 PM
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Re: Armor trivia
Heat or HE round killed the crew due to concussion/and or heat...

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   08-13-2007, 7:31 PM
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Re: Armor trivia
Nope. Ok. The unit is still active and recently moved to Fort Hood, Tx. Recently being within the last 2 years.   
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   08-13-2007, 11:58 PM
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Re: Armor trivia
I've read this account somewhere, but I can't for the life of me remember where.....Confused [%-)]
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   08-14-2007, 11:04 AM
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Re: Armor trivia

Ok. Guess I got you guys stumped. Big Smile [:D]   The unit was 3rd Armored Cav. Reg. The incident was a M-8 was out scouting and happened upon a Panther rumbling strait at them. Know that they could not beat a Panther the crew bailed out but not before the gunner fired 1 shot for honor, which happened to go right down the Panthe's barrel and explode inside the tank killing the crew. But the Panther still kept going a little ways and crushed the now empty M-8.

A buddy of mine who is in our IPMS chapter and use to be a member of 3rd ACR built a Dio of this incident that he gave to the regiment musuem, but they gave it back to him because the regiment was moved to Fort Hood, TX from Fort Carson, CO.

 

Next person to chime in gets to ask the next question then.

 

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   08-14-2007, 11:34 AM
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Re: Armor trivia
 M1 A1 A2 Tanker wrote:

Ok. Guess I got you guys stumped. Big Smile [:D]   The unit was 3rd Armored Cav. Reg. The incident was a M-8 was out scouting and happened upon a Panther rumbling strait at them. Know that they could not beat a Panther the crew bailed out but not before the gunner fired 1 shot for honor, which happened to go right down the Panthe's barrel and explode inside the tank killing the crew. But the Panther still kept going a little ways and crushed the now empty M-8.

A buddy of mine who is in our IPMS chapter and use to be a member of 3rd ACR built a Dio of this incident that he gave to the regiment musuem, but they gave it back to him because the regiment was moved to Fort Hood, TX from Fort Carson, CO.

 

Next person to chime in gets to ask the next question then.

 

Very Intersting................

Ok, what US Armored Division had their commander killed, what was his name, and when did it happen.


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   08-14-2007, 12:22 PM
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Re: Armor trivia

During which war?

 

 

 

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   08-14-2007, 1:28 PM
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Re: Armor trivia
Major General Maurice Rose, KIA March 30 1945. Commander 3rd armored Division August 1944-March 1945 .

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