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Started by Archangel at 01-12-2009 9:43 PM. Topic has 137 replies.
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   01-12-2009, 9:43 PM
Archangel


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
It is already completed. That is why I asked before entering the build .The good thing is i can start a new build though on something else easy enough. I have a Romulan Warbird from the 3 Pc adversary kit that needs to be kitbashed

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   01-14-2009, 7:24 AM
SNOOPY


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
 Woody wrote:

Is my GB entry ok?

 SNOOPY wrote:

Woody, When you used CA, what did you use to spread the CA?  Did you just clob it on and spread with a putty knife or did you put dabs of CA every 1/2" or so then let the pressure squeeze it out from there?  I was just thinking what about 3M 77 spray?  I am not sure if it has the holding strength when being sanded.  Time to experiment?  I wish I still worked at this filter making laboratory.  To bond plastics together we would put them in special made jig that would heat both surfaces to be bonded but the opposite sides were cooled with CO2 or nitrogen and then each piece pressed together until cooled.  Presto one solid plastic piece.  Well, that was the past. 

I use the thin CA and makes concentric rings about 1/4-1/2 inch apart. I don't place the first ring right on the edge but about 1/2 inch back. You just have to eyeball it. After the parts are placed together the glue should go all the way to the visable seam. Too much and you have a mess.

Woody, I got your PM and your entry is good.  I need to update the first page.  How do you make the concentric rings.  I have been using the step method where I cut out a circle the best I can by and then putting it into the drill press and file it down to size.  After getting the sizes I need that is when I laminate together.  This weekend will be the next attempt at getting the shape I need.


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   01-14-2009, 7:27 AM
SNOOPY


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

 Archangel wrote:
It is already completed. That is why I asked before entering the build .The good thing is i can start a new build though on something else easy enough. I have a Romulan Warbird from the 3 Pc adversary kit that needs to be kitbashed

Archangel, unfortuneately this is a building site and if it is finished then no you cannot use it as an entry.  You can post pics of if.  I am sure we would be interested in seeing it but if you want to do the Romulan warbird that is okay as long as you ar scratchbuilding or kitbashing the model.  When you do any type of scratchbuilding or kitbashing of pieces post those and tell us how you did it.  Let me know your intensions.


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   01-14-2009, 8:05 AM
Boba Fett


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
Question Snoopy, are you gonna post this in GB's? You might get more people that way... Just a thought. If so, when?


"Pretty. What do we blow up first?"
-Myn Donos
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
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   01-14-2009, 10:34 AM
Prince of Styrene II


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UPDATE!

Got some more done.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff5/Prince_of_Styrene_II/USS%20Taegu/strut_finished.jpg

I made the main nacelle strut by laminating three sheets. The middle sheet was grooved, slightly smaller in width and also has a tab to insert into the secondary hull's already present slot. The smaller width creates a trench around the outer edge. I'm also proud of the angle leading down to the grooves.

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff5/Prince_of_Styrene_II/USS%20Taegu/struts_on.jpg

Both main struts are inserted. I also filled the aft with weights to counter all the CDs in the saucer.

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff5/Prince_of_Styrene_II/USS%20Taegu/impulse1.jpg

I shaved off a bit of the underside "flair" just aft of the saucer which will house the impulse engines.  I think I'll also end up blending the flain into the underside of the saucer.

 

That's all for now!



"Hold the weapons, Daddy. I'm going to go get my monkeys."
The Dutchess of Styrene
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   01-14-2009, 5:45 PM
SNOOPY


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

 Boba Fett wrote:
Question Snoopy, are you gonna post this in GB's? You might get more people that way... Just a thought. If so, when?

I would and probably should but the last time I suggested a scratchbuild there I did not get any takers.  I figured anyone interested in Sci-Fi things come here so for now I will stay here.  I may at the very least post a notification of this group build. 


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   01-14-2009, 6:05 PM
Boba Fett


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
I would recommend it. You might get lucky because so few people go to Sci-fi...


"Pretty. What do we blow up first?"
-Myn Donos
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
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   01-14-2009, 9:34 PM
Archangel


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

I sure will do that. I haven't started yet But I have an idea of turning the Warbird into a Romulan Transporter or a three engined variant to the Warbird. I know it's not a new idea but with what I have on hand its about all I can do. Here are some pictures of the model I was talking about before that is already built. I bashed a nX-wing and a D-7 together. After i had finnsihed it I had realized the nose was a bit too long . It had parts from the TOS Enterprise, The Hasagawa Wepons sets and a ceneter gear shift from a car model for detail and a part from a Monogram snap tite space shuttle.

 

The start.  a broken X-wing and the rear half of a D-7 kit

http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/2083/0054mr.jpg

The engines

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/3308

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9936/0098hh.jpg

The boom and aft sections mated and some details added.

 http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8663/0019hv.jpg

 


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   01-14-2009, 10:10 PM
Archangel


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

Here are the rest.

Here I cut out the Torpedo launch tubes and used plactic straws for them so they would look more realistic. I added a tank Turret to the top of R-2 to make it lok more like a Klingon bridge . You can see the center console for a gear shift from a car kit on the top of the nose.

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9927/0032zp.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9518/0048zp.jpg

The aft section

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3686/0075ot.jpg

The Finnished Product. I painted it in  Tamiya Primer Grey and used a heavy wash of black.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/1388/scan0003b1dp.jpg

Here is a close up of the top of the nose. You;ll see part of a plastic twizzle stick and some plastic strip added to either side of it to make the cloaking device generators.

 http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/2842/vtadsc00466ef8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums

http://img.photobucket.com/albums

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/Archangel51534/S6300116.jpg

 

 


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   01-19-2009, 12:45 PM
Woody


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
I'm working on my layout drawings right now. I've narrowed it down to two slightly different shaped primary hulls. I hope to start cutting plastic in the next couple days.


" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail
fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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   01-20-2009, 7:20 AM
SNOOPY


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

 Woody wrote:
I use a cordless drill to turn the part and a Dremel with a coarse tooth to sculpt the part. Turn the part your cutting slowly and use the dremel on as high as speed as you can that doesn't cause melting.  If the part isn't solidly supported you will get a wavy. uneven surface. I clamp the drill to the workbench, support the back side of the piece with my finger tips(put talc powder on your finger tips), and hold the dremel with my right hand.

Woody, when you use the dremel/moto tool, 1) Which attached do you use a sanding stone or one of the drum sanders? and 2) Which direction do you use the Dremel tool?  I mean is the tool turning counter the drill's rotation or perpendicular to the drills rotation.

I made to new discs to be made into a saucer.  The discs turned out pretty good.  I think they are pretty solid laminated.  I used Super Glue this time and allow 48 hours cure time.  I made the discs by putting them into my drill press, first filing them with a course file, then using a sanding block with medium sandpaper, and then one of those 3M fine sanding sponges.  Can out looking pretty good.  I made sure that things did not get over heated this time.  Tonight I will attempt to make the saucer section.


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   01-20-2009, 8:03 AM
Woody


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
I use a rotary rasp and coarse sanding drums. I mostly shape with the dremel turning counter to the drill. Be sure to use light pressure with the dremel and support the work piece. If it wobbles, then you'll never get a nice looking part.


" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail
fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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   01-20-2009, 9:20 PM
Woody


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
Hey Greg, You don't need a kit. I believe most of us are scratchbuilding. I'm fleshing out a concept sketch of a Manta class destroyer. 95% of my entry will be made from sheet styrene. Come on Greg pick a simple design and go for it!


" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail
fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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   01-23-2009, 8:25 PM
SNOOPY


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
Woody, I tackled my saucer tonight.  It turn out a lot better than the first one did. Here is a pic of it.
  If you see there is still a seam line that can be seen and I have tried everything to get rid of it.  Also, I think you can see them but there are these small grooves in certain areas.  Any idea on how to get rid of them.  I have used the finest sanding block I have which smoothed everything else out but not those grooves.  Will they disappear if I spray it with primer like Mr. Surfacer?

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   01-23-2009, 8:50 PM
Woody


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
Looks good so far! I like to use a 50/50 mix of Testors enamel paint and Doctor Mico-Tool putty to fill light scratches. After I let this "thinned" putty dry completely, I wet sand with a 600 grit 3M wet/dry sandpaper. You might have to re-apply the putty mixture and sand again several times to get a perfect finish.


" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail
fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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   01-25-2009, 3:53 PM
sumpter250


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

I finally got the Jackill drawings redrawn in scale, for the USS Kodiak NCC 6000 secondary hull.

 

  Scratchbuilding the secondary hull, Warp nacelles, hull and nacelle pylons, will be the first part of this project. Modifying the Reliant kit to represent the Kodiak's primary hull will be part two. I have to figure out exactly what construction method I want to use. the hull will be styrene, at least on the outside, I may opt for micro plywood for the forms, and a secure base to anchor the primary hull to. The complete drawing is in Jackill's Starfleet Reference Manual ships of the fleet Volume II, along with the specs of the class. 



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   01-31-2009, 3:55 PM
Woody


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
Lucky me the National Guard has issued a curfew and a state of emergency. I haven't been able to join the forum because we are without power, water, and heat, due to a very bad icestorm that has crippled us here in Missouri. I'm on a run for food and a doctor for my sick 3 year old daughter, about a hundred miles from home and found a Wi-Fi signal at a hotel that still has power. It's amazing how quickly the thin coating of civilization rubs away to bring us back to a state of anarchy. They have had fights break out over gas and food. I'm sleeping with my AR-15 and a 9mm pistol. I hope our food holds out. Pray for us and I'll be back online when the world starts back up.


" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail
fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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   01-31-2009, 10:33 PM
SNOOPY


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

 Woody wrote:
Lucky me the National Guard has issued a curfew and a state of emergency. I haven't been able to join the forum because we are without power, water, and heat, due to a very bad icestorm that has crippled us here in Missouri. I'm on a run for food and a doctor for my sick 3 year old daughter, about a hundred miles from home and found a Wi-Fi signal at a hotel that still has power. It's amazing how quickly the thin coating of civilization rubs away to bring us back to a state of anarchy. They have had fights break out over gas and food. I'm sleeping with my AR-15 and a 9mm pistol. I hope our food holds out. Pray for us and I'll be back online when the world starts back up.

Sounds like you need those prayers.  It is said that in this country where our government is suppose to help us they never seem to actually go through with it.  The National Guard should be bring in suppplies continuosly.  I served in the military and we did some pretty amazing stuff in other countries why can't we do the same here.  We know where and when storms will hit why not get mobolized ahead of time.  Woody, all my prayers to you friends and family.  I love this country and want to see good things happen.  I hope you never have use those weapons.  Godspeed!


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   01-31-2009, 10:50 PM
Prince of Styrene II


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
Yikes, Woody!  How long ago did the storm hit?  I got my fingers crossed & are sending good thoughts your way.  Take care of that beautiful little girl, okay?  I know you will. Smile [:)]


"Hold the weapons, Daddy. I'm going to go get my monkeys."
The Dutchess of Styrene
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   02-01-2009, 11:05 AM
sumpter250


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
Woody, Prayers are with you. Keep your faith strong, and may fortune favor you.


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