Since I have already had the opportunity to ask two questions, I'll defer to the other two active questions.  This is fun string and I enjoy the challenge.  Thanks for starting it.

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Jeebus wrote:

The Me-262, was the 1st jet fighter in the world, HARDER.

Sorry, but your wrong, it was the Heinkel He-280

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_280

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Bgrigg wrote:

I don't know. The He-280 was the first jet designed as a fighter true, but it never began mass production, was plagued with problems and never flew in a real fight. Sounds like a research plane to me! Since your question specifically excluded research planes, it is arguable if Jeebus truly got pwned!

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Bgrigg wrote:

From Wikipedia Heinkel He 280 The Heinkel He 280 was the first jet-powered fighter aircraft built in the world Which is bunk, the He 178 was! And from Answers.com List of Jet Aircraft of WWII Axis German German operational jet aircraft     * Messerschmitt Me 262 – the first operational jet powered aircraft.     * Heinkel He 162 – second jet engined fighter aircraft to be fielded by the Luftwaffe     * Arado Ar 234 – The world's first operational jet powered bomber.     * V1 Flying Bomb – was the first modern guided missile used in wartime and the first cruise missile. German experimental and test jet aircraft     * Heinkel He 178 – was the world's first aircraft to fly under turbojet power, and the first practical jet plane.     * Heinkel He 280 – first jet-powered fighter aircraft built in the world. Which clearly lists the He 280 as experimental. My argument is that the first production run, non-prototype, operational, flew in combat, built as multiple variant jet-fighter is the Me 262.

I agree that the He-280 wasn't a production or a operationel aircraft. But it was a fighter, it wasn't designed to be a research aircraft such as the He-178.

And the question was, what was the first german jet engined fighter. Not "what was the first german operational and/or production jet powered fighter.

I therefore think the awnser should be the He-280. It was designed as a fighter (with a 3x 20mm arnement), it was flown, it was jet powered, jet was german and it was build and designed earlier then the me-262.

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Matt90 wrote:

I wanted the He-280 becuase it flew before the Me-262, and was a fighter, and did not enter service because of politics.

So then I can ask a question:

Name two types fighter planes that where used by the french airforce in 1940 and where made by a foreign (a non-french) manufacturer? 

Please note the the types, at least, must have been delivered before the fall of France, so no p-38's or p-39's etc. (which where on order but never deliverd)

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Bgrigg wrote:

No, you misunderstand. Nine does not make a production run. The first airframe didn't even have engines, only ballast, and could only glide. The last three airframes also never had engines, which would make them rather unsuitable for use in combat. They used three different engines for the other five airframes, all of which had problems. I'll repeat: Sounds like a research plane to me! So far I can find all of these references: From Wikipedia Heinkel He 280 The Heinkel He 280 was the first jet-powered fighter aircraft built in the world Which is bunk, the He 178 was! Also from Wikipedia Me 262 The first jet fighter was the Messerschmitt Me 262, piloted by Fritz Wendel. and from the History Learning Site on Jet Engines However, the Gloster Meteor was not the first jet fighter. This claim goes to the Heinkel He 178 which first flew on August 24th 1939 And from Answers.com List of Jet Aircraft of WWII Axis German German operational jet aircraft     * Messerschmitt Me 262 – the first operational jet powered aircraft.     * Heinkel He 162 – second jet engined fighter aircraft to be fielded by the Luftwaffe     * Arado Ar 234 – The world's first operational jet powered bomber.     * V1 Flying Bomb – was the first modern guided missile used in wartime and the first cruise missile. German experimental and test jet aircraft     * Heinkel He 178 – was the world's first aircraft to fly under turbojet power, and the first practical jet plane.     * Heinkel He 280 – first jet-powered fighter aircraft built in the world. Which clearly lists the He 280 as experimental. My argument is that the first production run, non-prototype, operational, flew in combat, built as multiple variant jet-fighter is the Me 262.

I have to agree with Bill here!!  This is someone who has done his homework!!  It does say you do not want the research plane, but the fighter, therefore, the Me 262 would be the first jet "fighter"

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