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Started by wbill76 at 07-13-2009 7:54 PM. Topic has 163 replies.
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   07-13-2009, 7:54 PM
wbill76


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 6th

Guney, Dave, Rick, thanks for the comments!

 panzerguy wrote:
I'm curious about something, all the ammo bins that have rounds molded in them always have the rims sitting flush to the bins top. Would they really be like this or would they stick out a bit for ease of pulling the round from the bin?

Steve, no need to worry about adequacy! As to your question about the ammo rounds, that's a good question and one that I can't really answer. All of the photos I've seen of ammo bins have been of empty racks vs. "loaded" racks. I would think that the gravity type vertical boxes like the one you see here on the /9 would probably have to have a little clearance at the top to allow the round to be pulled out easily. In scale though it probably wouldn't be noticeable and so the "flush" look is often what you end up with.

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   07-14-2009, 3:04 PM
Citadelgrad87


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 6th

With this post, I concede that you may, repeat MAY make it to 100 before I do.

Nice detail work, sharp painting and construction.  It's a pleasure to watch you work, Bill.  Looking forward to some more paint.

Bill  

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   07-14-2009, 3:17 PM
rtvmodeler


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 12th

Smile [:)] Excellent WIP my friend!.  The interior details looks great!

Regards,
Rodolfo


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   07-14-2009, 7:43 PM
wbill76


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 12th

Thanks Bill, I accept your most gracious concession! Laugh [(-D]

Rodolfo, appreciate your comments as well, thanks!

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   07-15-2009, 4:53 PM
terry35


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 12th

Hi, Bill great progress so far, looks great with a splash of paint. I started my AFV club UHU 251/20 at the weekend and while I have several Dragon 251's it is very interesting following along here to see how differently the two companies have tackled their chassis's. I must actually take two kits out and compare. I don't think accuracy will be a question from these two premier manufacturers but merely a question of the approach to tooling.

I know the Tamiya kit is fairly old at this stage, (I remember buying the Verlinden upgrade set and nothing fitted properly) but the assembly seemed a lot simpler. I would love to compare the Tamiya to today's offerings. At the time people awaited the arrival of the kit in the shops because it was a time when new releases were few and far between. I think I had the kit 251/9 built and painted in about two weeks.

Just having fond memories......Ha...Ha...

Keep up the good work.

Terry.



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   07-15-2009, 10:41 PM
wbill76


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 12th
Thanks Terry! I haven't built either the AFV or Tamiya 251s but have only seen the finished builds as well as read the reviews. The AFV approach is a different one but, with their 251 Cs at least, they are more dimensionally accurate vs. the DML kits. Seeing a side-by-side would be neat if you decided to go that route. Can't ever have too many half-tracks in the works! Wink [;)]
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   07-15-2009, 11:11 PM
model maniac 96


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 6th
Just as great work as always! you never fail to come through with another amazing build, I am sorry if I missed it in previous posts, but are camouflage on this bad boy?

I am looking forward to the next update, Jim.

"Veni, Vidi, Vici"
Julius Caesar: I came, I saw, I conquered.

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   07-16-2009, 7:46 AM
doc-hm3


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 6th

Bill, she's coming along quite nicely. Your builds are always enjoyable to watch. Kinda of like being invited to quietly watch over the artist's shoulder as he works. I can feel the crescendo slowly starting to build. I'm looking forward to your interior getting that lived in look.

                                                                      doc 


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   07-16-2009, 8:15 AM
wbill76


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 6th

 model maniac 96 wrote:
Just as great work as always! you never fail to come through with another amazing build, I am sorry if I missed it in previous posts, but are camouflage on this bad boy?

Jim, thanks for the comments! I'm planning a three tone scheme for this one. Camo schemes (as well as using things like foliage) were quite common with these vehicles going by the reference photos.

Doc, I'm humbled by your kind words and am glad you enjoy following along. Wink [;)]

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   07-16-2009, 11:22 AM
the doog


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 6th

Some sharp work as always, Bill--I like this variant with the "big shoulders" compared to the Tamiya kit. Very cool, and very clean as always!

 


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   07-16-2009, 1:08 PM
wbill76


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 6th
Thanks Karl, glad to see you're getting some time to pop in on the forums these days. Wink [;)]
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   07-17-2009, 8:14 AM
wing_nut


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 6th
OOPS... missed the last update.  Looking sharp enough to shave with Bill.

Marc

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   07-17-2009, 9:13 AM
wbill76


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 6th
Thanks Marc, should have another update coming soon so keep your eyes peeled! (Don't you just love the quirkiness of the English language? Propeller [8-] Laugh [(-D])
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   07-17-2009, 2:15 PM
wbill76


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 17th

While watching TV in the evenings I managed to get the tracks built. I opted for the "early" style that are the non-Magic type tracks with the three lightening holes on either side of the guide horn. This meant that they of course had to be removed from the sprues and the 3 attachment points cleaned up per link as well as the 2 points per track pad block. In terms of effort it was the same as if I'd used the Magic variety really since those had two ejector marks on each link that needed to be sanded or scraped off so definitely a case of pick your poison!

I assembled the links so that they would remain fully workable. My assembly method is straight forward, I use the pins to link a pair together then carefully glue the cap block on top so that it traps the pins but still allows them to move freely. Since I haven't added the road wheels yet, I only assembled 52 links per side and will add the more if needed depending.

Once the pairs were together then it was a case of just "daisy chain" assembly from there. The pairs were added to make 4s, then the 4s added to make 8s, etc.

The 8s were then all assembled together and, voila!, two fully workable track runs ready to be test fit once the wheels are on.

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   07-17-2009, 6:40 PM
redleg12


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 17th

Track are like knitting for armor modelers. Sit in front of the TV and.....knit one pearl 2......make 4s connect to 8s!!!!!

Rounds Complete!!


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   07-17-2009, 7:34 PM
model maniac 96


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 17th
Looking as good as always! I like your method for the tracks!


Thanks, Jim

"Veni, Vidi, Vici"
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   07-17-2009, 7:52 PM
wbill76


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 17th

Thanks Jim, it's a method I found allows enough time for the cap blocks to set up but still allows for the assembly to move ahead without too much interruption or delays.  

 redleg12 wrote:
Track are like knitting for armor modelers. Sit in front of the TV and.....knit one pearl 2......make 4s connect to 8s!!!!!

So Mike, I'm curious to know how you know so much about knitting? Got another hobby that we don't know about, eh? Big Smile [:D] Propeller [8-]

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   07-17-2009, 8:36 PM
bufflehead


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 17th
Looking good Bill!  You've really got that track assembly down to a science!  I just finished AFV Club's Sd.Kfz.251/20 Ausf. D Uhu and am very curious how DML's 251's build up.  I'm keeping a close eye on this one and with luck (and your awesome WIP help) I'm sure I'll end up with a DML version sometime soon!

Ernest

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   07-17-2009, 8:37 PM
redleg12


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 17th
 wbill76 wrote:

 redleg12 wrote:
Track are like knitting for armor modelers. Sit in front of the TV and.....knit one pearl 2......make 4s connect to 8s!!!!!

So Mike, I'm curious to know how you know so much about knitting? Got another hobby that we don't know about, eh? Big Smile [:D] Propeller [8-]

Hummmmm....I will have to consider making you an OD scarf in a Zim pattern for Xmas...Shock [:O]Wink [;)]

Be careful in front of the TV that you do not confuse your tracks and popcorn.....Either that or keep the Tums nearby Sign - Dots [#dots]

Rounds Complete!!


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My Artillery Collection for your Review:
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   07-18-2009, 10:57 AM
SMJmodeler


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Re: #97 DML Sdkfz 251/9 Ausf D *Update* July 17th
 wbill76 wrote:

This meant that they of course had to be removed from the sprues and the 3 attachment points cleaned up per link as well as the 2 points per track pad block. In terms of effort it was the same as if I'd used the Magic variety really since those had two ejector marks on each link that needed to be sanded or scraped off so definitely a case of pick your poison!

 

This was probably a good call Bill.  I used the Dragon EZ-links on my 251 and they were tough.  The challenge is not the alignment but getting the darn cleats on!  Molding the assembly to the sprocket and wheels was a pain in the A**!  I noticed the EZ's had an ejector mark too...Grumpy [|(]  I didn't sweat that this time though because I had planned for heavy dirt and dust.  Anyway, it looks like you're really on a rollThumbs Up [tup]

BTW: I missed a week or so of the forum while on vacation...have you discussed your paint scheme for this one yet?  Maybe I'll get to your web-link and read further, I was just wondering...


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