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Started by Luftwoller at 06-06-2009 4:23 AM. Topic has 1244 replies.
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   06-06-2009, 4:23 AM
Luftwoller


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

Hey Stephen, that looks like a fantastic kit. Ive had my eye on building one of those for a while now, but ALL my building has been put on, I hope, temporary hold Boo.

SC, i remember looking at all those tiny bits when i did mine an wondered if my gert maws could handle the job. They could and they are definately a superb addition. Its funny, when your model is on show, how many people will look at the guns. With all the PE and time. they will look cracking.

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   06-06-2009, 10:50 AM
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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

I agree Guy they are a huge improvement over the plastic injected ones. That is my rule of thumb when it come to PE. I do'nt use it unless it is a substantional improvment over the kit part and it can be easily seen an noticed by anyone enjoying the model not just judges with penlights. I have never and probally will never enter anything I have build in a contest. Its just not why I build. The great input I get from all of my freinds here is all I need to make me happy. These guns sitting right on top of the cowl will really stand out and thats why I am going to take the time and pain of assembling all of these tiny parts. With my huge fingers picking up these tiny parts is impossible. I am going to have to try some other methods of manipulating these little parts around. Hope you get back to modeling soon there Guy. I can't wait to see what you are going to finish next.Big Smile [:D]

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   06-07-2009, 10:51 AM
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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09
 soulcrusher wrote:

 Hey soulcrusher, The DVII is really looking great, and the "stacked" wings came out very nice. Looking forward to seeing the the TINY MG's assembled.

 Stephen, the added wash on the streak decals is spot on. The DR1's are looking really cool.


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   06-07-2009, 12:16 PM
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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

Thanks Mobious. Its a good thing I do'nt drink coffe or other caffine drinks because these parts are so tiny super steady hands are a must. I'll just double up on the meds tonight and that should steady my hands enough to tackle this prodject!Big Smile [:D]

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   06-08-2009, 11:06 AM
More Power Scotty


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

Here are the interior photos that I promised.  Little did I realize how involved Graduation Party weekend would be. Shock [:O]  Anyway, aside from gluing together the fuselage and some pre-shading on the bottom side of the wings, there was not much movement this past week.  I should start to pick up the pace this week.  As always, any comments are welcome. 

The interior left side prior to installing the seat, and prior to putting an oil wash on the engine.  I also did apply a wash to all of the interior prior to gluing the fuselage halves together, but after taking these photos.

A close-up of the engine (exhaust manifold obviously not installed) after it was glued in place following a wash.


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   06-08-2009, 11:12 AM
More Power Scotty


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

Stephen,

Since you typically do such a great job of answering our questions, I think that you may have missed one I asked last week.  I need a little rigging direction for my Pfalz D.IIIa as the Eduard instructions with the kit show the rigging for the D.III.  The photographs that I have found thus far are not entirely clear on showing the end locations of the rigging on the outer forward portion of the wings, which appears to be the only rigging difference between the D.III and D.IIIa.  Any light that you can shed will be appreciated.


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   06-08-2009, 2:01 PM
StephenLawson


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

Greetings Scotty,

The riggng for the Pfalz D.III and D.IIIa should be identical.  Aeroscale is down for maintenance or I would show you the portfolio of my Pfalz builds. Let me see if I can dig up an image of the real deal.

D.IIIa

D.III

D.III prototype.


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   06-09-2009, 2:35 AM
StephenLawson


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

Eduard 1/48 Fok. Dr.I #8490 kit.  No decals yet.  Just a bit of rigging.


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   06-09-2009, 3:16 AM
StephenLawson


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

Here is the progression of the DML / Dragon builds. First   Dr.I 502/17.
 


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   06-09-2009, 3:18 AM
StephenLawson


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

Here is the other Dr.I .  This type of marking was originally called a "Hakenkreuz."  The legs turning to the left made this a "female version."  The origins can be seen on the prehistoric caves of  almost every  part of the world.


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   06-09-2009, 3:23 AM
StephenLawson


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

Greetings all;

Here is the newest bit of joy from the good folks at Roden.  Working on the review.

 

 


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   06-09-2009, 11:07 AM
More Power Scotty


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

Stephen,

Thanks once again for your insight!  I am still seeing an additional line on some planes (looking at real photographs) but not on others.  In the second photo that you shared you can see the line on the outer part of the wing starting at about the middle of the upper wing and attaching somewhere to the outside of the outer braces.  I have seen photographs allegedly of the D.IIIa model where this line is present. 

If you think of it later on when the site is back up and running, I would love to see the Pfalz planes in your collection.

Anyway, once again you have some exemplary work shown here.  With the number of Dr.1's that I have seen just in our two Knights of the Sky group builds, you have to be close to having models of nearly all of the Dr.1's that were built.

I look forward to seeing your build and comments on the new Roden DH2.  It looks good in the box, and they did not try to "fade" their decals. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]


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   06-09-2009, 2:47 PM
StephenLawson


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09
 StephenLawson wrote:
Greetings all;

Here is the newest bit of joy from the good folks at Roden.  Working on the review.

 

Here is the in the box review.

Click here.


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   06-09-2009, 3:01 PM
StephenLawson


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09
 More Power Scotty wrote:
Stephen,

Thanks once again for your insight!  I am still seeing an additional line on some planes (looking at real photographs) but not on others.  In the second photo that you shared you can see the line on the outer part of the wing starting at about the middle of the upper wing and attaching somewhere to the outside of the outer braces.  I have seen photographs allegedly of the D.IIIa model where this line is present. 

If you think of it later on when the site is back up and running, I would love to see the Pfalz planes in your collection.

Anyway, once again you have some exemplary work shown here.  With the number of Dr.I kits that I have seen just in our two Knights of the Sky group builds, you have to be close to having models of nearly all of the Dr.1's that were built.

I look forward to seeing your build and comments on the new Roden DH2.  It looks good in the box, and they did not try to "fade" their decals. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

Here you go Scotty, 

Pfalz portfolio

I think I understand what your getting at.  The rigging cable from the underside of the outer wing tip to the area near the interplane strut base is a stabilizer cable.  It helps cut back on flutter / vibrations that twist and stresses that cause this area to fail inflight.  These were on the D.III and some D.IIIa types.  The Alb. D.III, D. V and D.Va had them as well. These seem to begin as an in the field modification that was later adopted by the factory.  The worst issue with the Palz D.III & IIIa aircraft was the twist that developed in the fuselage due to the use of "green woods."  This itself contributed greatly to the harmful vibrations that tended to ripple through the whole machine. 


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   06-09-2009, 5:05 PM
StephenLawson


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

The Copper State Models 1/32 Junkers J.I aileron fix.


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   06-10-2009, 9:11 PM
More Power Scotty


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

Stephen,

Thanks once again for the historical information on the extra line.  This explains why I have seen some photographs of both D.III's and D.IIIa's with and without it.  I will probably opt to make this an easier build, and leave it off.  I also appreciate the sharing of your Pfalz collection.  Beautiful work as always!Thumbs Up [tup]  I really like the plane with the "shooting star" motif.  I may have to build another one of these some day wearing those markings.


Scott


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   06-11-2009, 11:47 AM
Luftwoller


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

Geez Stephen, thats an awfull lot of Pfalz's. All with such quality. I wonder if one day youd treat us to a pic of your display area? Im sure its a sight to behold.

...Guy



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   06-12-2009, 1:24 AM
StephenLawson


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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

 Luftwoller wrote:
"Geez Stephen, thats an awfull lot of Pfalz's. All with such quality. I wonder if one day youd treat us to a pic of your display area? Im sure its a sight to behold. . .Guy

Your wish is my command.


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   06-12-2009, 2:12 PM
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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

Holy snikies there Stephen! Looks like you have your own museum! That has to be the nicest display I have ever seen. Fitting for the quality of your builds. I though my nice curved glass china hutch was a nice display but you have me beat hand down.

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   06-12-2009, 4:33 PM
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Re: Knights of the Sky II- 1/1/09 to 8/31/09

Yeah!  Wow!  Stephen, that's a pretty awesome little area.

Where do you get your acrylic covers?  I'm looking to get some soon-- if you have that many, they've got to be semi-affordable.

Or maybe you're just rich.Tongue [:P]


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