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Started by Prince of Styrene II at 03-17-2009 10:37 AM. Topic has 137 replies.
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   03-17-2009, 10:37 AM
Prince of Styrene II


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
No pictures yet, but I did a bit of work on my ship last night.  There's some holes on the neck's side that needed filled, which I did with scrap styrene & Aves.  I also trimmed down some other greebles to add some hull shape to the neck as well.  When I sand down the Aves, I'll post some pics.


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   03-28-2009, 4:24 PM
sumpter250


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

Well, I stated I was in, so this is the final commitment.......

The drawings have been glued to sheets of 3/32" Basswood. I now have to cut out each pattern, and assemble the subframe. Once that is done, I can start adding the styrene stringers, and then begin the (hopefully) plate-on-frame secondary hull construction. I say "hopefully", because I've never tried this method of construction. What I intend, is horizontal styrene strip "stringers", that will provide support,and attachment points for styrene, cut-and-formed individual hull plates. The overall size and shape of the hull seems to be "smooth enough" to permit this, and I believe I can get the proper shape, in styrene, by using this method. You'll know soon enough if it fails.

 



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   03-30-2009, 1:19 PM
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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

The easy part is done, the patterns have been cut out and assembled into the subframe of the Kodiak's secondary hull. Once the glue has thoroughly set, I can begin "fairing in", sanding the high spots off, and adding the taper to each of the frames. The hard part? applying the styrene "skin". I have to go back to the Jackill's drawings, and begin laying out the hull panels, on the actual hull, to determine the individual sizes for the "plates" (this is going to be......fun?)

The picture shows the major components, in their basic relationship to each other. The warp nacelles are from the Reliant kit, and will have to be replaced with scratch built parts made up from the drawings.



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   03-30-2009, 3:57 PM
Prince of Styrene II


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
Great ribbing there!!  Looking forward to the rest of your progress.


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   03-31-2009, 11:06 AM
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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
Wow. I am amazed. Not in a million years could I do something that cool. Excellent work.


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   03-31-2009, 2:04 PM
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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

Wow. I am amazed. Not in a million years could I do something that cool. Excellent work.

Well, there you have it, I knew there had to be some benefit for living over a million years!

Thanks! the best is yet to come.......I've done the "woodwork" before, adding the styrene skin, that is totally new territory, and I'll be inventing the "technique" as I go. For those interested, the original drawing for this project is in Jackill's Star Fleet Reference Manual, ships of the fleet, Vol II. the conversion factor is 3.572 X the Jackill's drawings. I used the width of the primary hull, of the Reliant kit, and the drawing to determine sizes. (Oh No! Highschool math!!, having some real use???!!!!!)



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   04-04-2009, 2:40 PM
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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

Found this, yesterday. It's the Jackill's drawing, on the shipschematics.net site:

shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/battleship_kodiak.jpg 

I also found this, the "Kodiak B":

shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/battleship_kodiak_upgrade.jpg I would need two Enterprise "E" ( "Nemesis" ) kits to bash this one. Are these available?



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   04-05-2009, 8:22 AM
Prince of Styrene II


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
 sumpter250 wrote:
I also found this, the "Kodiak B":

shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/battleship_kodiak_upgrade.jpg I would need two Enterprise "E" ( "Nemesis" ) kits to bash this one. Are these available?

Yes they are!  Round 2 (formerly Polar Lights) has re-released the E-E within the last 2-3 months.  You can find them at you friendly neighborhood LHS.



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   04-05-2009, 10:40 AM
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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
Sweet! By the time I've finished Kodiak, I should have been able to save aside enough for two of them.........yeah, I should be careful what I wish for!


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   04-05-2009, 11:13 AM
Prince of Styrene II


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

Here's Cult's page in his hobbyshop so you can see the box art.  $22 is about your average price.

http://www.culttvmanshop.com/shop/product.php?productid=16854&cat=361&page=3

 



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   04-07-2009, 2:19 PM
Prince of Styrene II


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
Just a quick post before I jet off to work to say that I've been working on my build.  Worked on sandign down the saucer edges, the joint between the neck & the saucer & working on building a shuttlebay door & landing strip ala Voyager.  Looking good so far.  I'll try to snap off a few shots tonight after work.


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   04-08-2009, 11:10 AM
Prince of Styrene II


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

Here's a couple pics.  Not much, but I'm liking how the shuttlebay is turning out.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff5/Prince_of_Styrene_II/USS%20Taegu/saucer_sand.jpg

I filled the saucer's rim with Aves & sanded down. You can see some Aves on the far side to be sanded.

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff5/Prince_of_Styrene_II/USS%20Taegu/shuttlebay1.jpg

Taking a cue from the Intrepid class, I decided to add an off-center shuttlebay & EVA door along with a landing pad platform, which still needs to be glued on. The outer wall & grooved door is two layers of sheet. The top still needs to have the Aves sanded down. 



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   04-08-2009, 1:48 PM
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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

Taegu is coming along well! I'll ask the dumb question,what is Aves? Is that Apoxie Sculpt?

The Enterprise E kit is a 1/1400 scale kit. I was really hoping to build in 1/537 (1/530, 1/550) scale to go along with Farragut, Firestone, and eventually Kodiak.

Speaking of Kodiak, I finally gave up on individual plates for the secondary hull. Instead, I'm wrapping sections top centerline to bottom centerline, covering two to four frames, depending on the severity of curve and part shape. The secondary is about half "skinned". I'll sand smooth all the joints, and putty where necessary, and then scribe in the plate boundries, and "inlet" any of the detail that goes deeper than the thickness of the hull material. The forms for the engine nacelles will be Estes rocket body tubes (0.9xxxxx" dia.). I'll wrap them in styrene same as the hull. I'll try to get a progress photo up tonight.



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   04-09-2009, 9:00 AM
Prince of Styrene II


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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

 sumpter250 wrote:
Taegu is coming along well! I'll ask the dumb question,what is Aves? Is that Apoxie Sculpt?

Thank you!

Yes, Aves is the company that makes Apoxie Sculpt.  I was just too lazy to type two words! Big Smile [:D]

The Enterprise E kit is a 1/1400 scale kit. I was really hoping to build in 1/537 (1/530, 1/550) scale to go along with Farragut, Firestone, and eventually Kodiak.

Well, look on the bright side, soon you'll be able to recreate the Kodiak in 1/1000!! Cool [8D]



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   04-09-2009, 11:47 AM
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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

Well, look on the bright side, soon you'll be able to recreate the Kodiak in 1/1000!!

Or.....scratchbuild it in 1/530............whoa, did I just say that!

 In this first photo, the partially skinned secondary hull, and the beginnings of the warp nacelles. The nacelles started with 0.9xxxx" Estes rocket body tubes. I've started layering on the styrene, and will "bulk up" the ends before shaping them, and adding detail.

 

in this photo, I keep the project "assembled" as I go, it helps maintain proportion, and keeps me focused on the end product. I will try to include this positioning of parts, right up to the end. the supports used to hold thing in place will eventually become the "jig" for the final assembly, so that everything stays in the right relationship to the other parts.



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   04-09-2009, 8:07 PM
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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
Just getting started with the kitbashing of the Warbird from the 3 ship adversary set. No pictures yet but I'll try to get them on soon. It's not going to be that much of a change to the kit. Just leaving the lower part off and changeing the head and hopefully I'll have new engines to mount sometime before this group build is done.

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   04-10-2009, 11:29 AM
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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
Darn fine progress there, sumpter!!


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   04-25-2009, 11:37 PM
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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

Progress at last! Here's the secondary hull, and warp nacelles with a skin of styrene.

The small craft is a 1:555 scale two man heavy fighter bomber, and is the original. I've built it in 1:72, and in 1:48

this is the 1:48 version

 

Next up is to fill in the gaps and voids with Apoxie sculpt. What would be the best "solvent" fro use with the Apoxie sculpt. I've used Squadron green, and white, with Testors liquid plastic cement as a solvent, but I haven't used the Apoxie sculpt before. 



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   04-25-2009, 11:39 PM
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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?
Nice!  Looking really good & I like the bomber, too.


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   05-08-2009, 4:29 PM
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Re: Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

A little progress:

Here's the secondary hull and warp nacelles. The description in Jackill's, states "the extended secondary hull, is attached directly to the primary hull".  there is a small "pylon" that seems to be indicated in the drawings, that is what has been modeled.

Here, again everything placed together:

and finally, here are the two pylons with megaphasers, that are the end supports for the "wing" and upper photon torpedo tubes(seen in the above photo in the "Reliant" mode), and the forward, and aft deflector housings. The actual deflector, are cut from the bowls of "Wendy's" plastic spoons! (the chili, and baked potato were good, the inspiration even better)

 



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