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2005 IPMS Nationals

Started by AndyMarks at 08-29-2005 2:14 PM. Topic has 9 replies.
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   08-29-2005, 2:14 PM
AndyMarks

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Post Icon IPMS Nats - Best Automotive
I heard a rumor that the Best Automotive winning entry (Ferrari) was stolen. Anyone know anything about this?

Also, does anyone have any decent shots of said award winning Ferrari. I'd love to see it.

Thanks.
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   08-29-2005, 6:03 PM
styrene


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RE: IPMS Nats - Best Automotive
It's a pity if it was. Atlanta passed out "claim tickets" upon entry. The only way you could get your kit out of the contest room was to show the ticket. Funny thing, though, is that after the "awards" presentation (what a farce!), people stationed at the doors only looked to see that you had a piece of paper. I walked out with my two kits, but they could have belonged to anybody since door monitors weren't checking claim tickets...pathetic.

Try http://ipmsusa.org Several folks have taken pictures of every kit in the competition room. There should be something there for everyone.

Gip Winecoff

1882: "God is dead"--F. Nietzsche
1900: "Nietzsche is dead"--God
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   08-31-2005, 12:37 PM
AndyMarks

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RE: IPMS Nats - Best Automotive
Gip:

Why was the awards presentation a farce? I've never been to Nationals and I'm trying to decide if I should go next year? Sounds like you've got some experience here. What's the deal?

Thanks.

Andy.
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   09-02-2005, 11:14 AM
styrene


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RE: IPMS Nats - Best Automotive
Andy,
As good as the contest was (and it was superb), Atlanta made the fatal mistake of putting contest entries, winners, etc. exclusively on electronic media. After the awards banquet had been held, the award winners were to be announced--as in all previous Nationals events, except the entire computer system crashed, and the only awards presented that night were the "best ofs". As a direct result, no one knew who won what. Trophies had previously been placed close by the winning models, but upon dismissal from the banquet/presentations, everyone went to the model room to see if they won or not, and to pack away all the kits. As a result of award winners not being announced, there were reports of folks taking trophies that they thought belonged to them, when they, in actuality, belonged to an adjacent model. In addition, there were not enough trophies to go around due to numerous splits in some of the categories. The bottom line is that some people went home with trophies they shouldn't have; some of those who should have gone home with trophies didn't; and some simply don't know if they won or not. The sad conclusion? Rumors are circulating that we may never know the outcome of this Nationals event due to the potential lack of a viable paper trail to back up what was lost electronically.

At least that is what I'm currently hearing. This was the first Nationals event I have attended where a screw-up this large occurred. There have been other computer glitches at other events, but nothing of this magnitude.

Don't let this one problem discourage you from attending and entering the competition. It's a great event to get involved in.

Gip Winecoff

1882: "God is dead"--F. Nietzsche
1900: "Nietzsche is dead"--God
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   09-02-2005, 3:00 PM
jimmyd30

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RE: IPMS Nats - Best Automotive
Don't let the awards presentation discourage you. The awards presentation has posed problems for many of the conventions. The usual problem is the slide show presentation gets fouled up somehow during the banquet, but the results have always been available and accurate. The time it takes to post the results has varied from year to year.
The 2003 and 2004 convention both had nearly flawless presentations at the banquet, and the results were posted in less than a week after the convention. Pictures of the winning entries were also posted probably within two weeks of the show.
The guys in Atlanta did a great job, and I'm sure they didn't plan for the system to crash. Unfortunately, in the end, what everybody remembers, is the presentation. The presentation in Atlanta did not go well. There are more members that didn't attend than did. For those who did attend, the show was probably great. For those who do not attend, the results is all they have to judge the show.
Two frequently used excuses:
1-The event is run by members who volunteer their time.
2-In the "old days" results weren't available until the journal was published.
my response
1-the convention and the organization is not by some " fly by nights". Each and every one of those volunteers are very capable people in both their professional and personal lives. They make a commitment to do a job knowing what will be expected of them.
They all put forth their best efforts and sometime things go wrong. Why they would try to trivialize their efforts by using the volunteer excuse is beyond me.

2- It is not the "old days" any more. The information should be available to each and every member as soon as possible. The results should not be treated as an after thought. The job is not done until it is done. It is not a secret that a large part of the membership from year to year will not be able to attend the event. The results are part of the convention coverage which starts sometimes before the convention. Again, don't trivialize all your hard work with some stupid "old days" garbage. You know what is expected ... follow thru.
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   09-06-2005, 8:04 AM
AndyMarks

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RE: IPMS Nats - Best Automotive
WOW! Sounds like a real adventure. Having never attended or volunteered to work at an event of this magnitude, I'm in no position to comment. I hope that they work this out. I'd love to know about (and see) the car that truly won Best Automotive.

Nationals, at least through 2007 are too far away for me to attend. Hopefully, if they ever come back to the East or Midwest, I can be there.

Thanks everyone for the update.
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   09-08-2005, 4:46 PM
Murray Kish

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I wasn't there (in Atlanta), but Yes, the winning Automotive entry was stolen. The builder frequents another forum that I regularly check in on, and this was discussed there at some length. So far, the entry has not turned up and the builder is quite frustrated/disappointed.

Murray
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   09-13-2005, 4:16 PM
AndyMarks

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RE: IPMS Nats - Best Automotive
Unbelievable! Sickening and unbelievable.
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   05-17-2006, 8:45 PM
carbuilder


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Re: RE: IPMS Nats - Best Automotive
hi Murrary , could you tell me the addrees of the forum that the guy that got his car stolen goes to?
ive been part of IPMS for about 4 years and this is the first time i have ever heard of something like this happening at any show. but  i guess  it could happen, 
richard


http://www.kcscalemodelers.com/
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   08-26-2009, 10:10 PM
Chas SCR

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Re: RE: IPMS Nats - Best Automotive

If its the same car that im thinking of it was more confiscated more then stolen because the guy has been entering it in shows saying he built it then the trueth.

 Not too sure on this, but to if the Nats had this much trouble i'm glad that I did not go as Kazoo also had trouble last year giving award to a car that was not even in the class.

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