Gino,

Here is the pic again


No probe, usuall step... As far as I know all Super 6s were alike

Andy

The MH-60L series was just an interium improvement over the MH-60A Velcro Hawk until the Kilo model became available in mid to late 90s. As such, not all the Lima birds were fitted with refueling probes or the enlarged fairing. Since there was no need for extended ranges in Somolia, the Limas without probes were sent so that the mid-air refueling capable helicopters could be reserveded should that need arise elsewhere.

no detectors no horns - weather radar and FLIR stays on

Andy

Roger! Got that!
It's a UH-60 with nose and chin

"Super 6-4 is going down, Super 6-4 is going down, Super 6-4 is ... just kidding!"
"HAHA Americans funny. We no shoot them no more! Screw Aidid, me kill him tomorrow. Me go home and have tea and khat now!" (what we'd like to hear from a less serious version of Blakc Hawk Down)

QUOTE: Originally posted by HeavyArty QUOTE: Originally posted by jinithith2 "Super 6-4 is going down, Super 6-4 is going down, Super 6-4 is ... just kidding!" "HAHA Americans funny. We no shoot them no more! Screw Aidid, me kill him tomorrow. Me go home and have tea and khat now!" (what we'd like to hear from a less serious version of Blakc Hawk Down) ??? Guess that was supposed to be funny. Remind me to laugh next time. Pretty tasteless if you ask me.

Pretty stupid I would say

And all those that died between 1950 and 1953 and still serve there helping keep your country free

QUOTE: Originally posted by Cobrahistorian While the actual events have been popularized in a movie that we've all come to appreciate, there are 19 soldiers who are no longer among us because of that very incident.

And not to mention the somali casualties. Even though the were the "bad guys" you have to repect each lost life.
And BTW in war there are no "bad guys" your opponents are peole just like you; they only happen to be on the other side of the barricade.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Cobrahistorian Death in combat, usually violent and brutal is no situation to be made "less serious".

Amen to that!

Jonathan,
I was there too Bro and agree one hundred percent.

Avus,
Normally you'd be right my friend. That is to say in certain past wars you met on the field of battle and fought for what each other believed in. Somalia was different......an honerable opponent doesn't hide behind women and children to take pot shots at you. They don't dismember fallen enemy combatants and then drag them around the streets for two days chanting like a bunch of idiots, especially considering that we would and did risk our lives to save their wounded. They don't steal food from starving women and children (or kill them when they get in the way) to pad their gang's warehouses and then offer to sell it back to them for their allegiance.
I can honestly say that they were "bad" as someone who was there during the Provide Relief/Restore Hope JTF when we were feeding people and saving lives (along with the Belgians, Germans, Italians, Canadians, Australians and others), and then went back for Gothic Serpent. Some might see it as "they just have a different culture". Well that may be, and I even consider myself an objective common sense kind of guy, but those people did things that not only will I not repeat here in the forum, but I have a hard time dealing with in my own mind.

Not meant to offend anyone, but please don't judge Jonathan and me for holding these opinions. We were there, we saw it, and it can't help but affect your view.

If anyone wants to discuss it further, please ping me directly. Now.....back to the modeling.

Have to chime in and agree with Sal and Jonathan here. They were not a noble opponenet to be respected. They were animals and were nothing else but bad. They did things that were outside the realm of acceptable human behavior. No sympathy for them at all.