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Started by Mobious at 07-12-2009 12:18 PM. Topic has 1562 replies.
 
 
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07-12-2009, 12:18 PM
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Mobious

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Re: 1,000+ Roadwheels - 2009
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Progress on the JgdPz, Again. The reference color plate depicts this vehilce with tree limbs as additional camo. After the decimation of Germany's armored force at Normandy by roving Mustangs, MilkJugs, and Spits, It was a matter of survival for German AFV crews to add supplemental camoflage. I tried something like this back in the day before PE or lazer cut paper. I was not really pleased with the results. ![]()
" border="0" /> I began by attaching suitable limb sized pieces of a root dug from the woods out back. Some trimming and splicing were done to get the limb structure the way I wanted it. One thing worth mentioning is in this step it is best to add the tie down rope. It was a little tricky after the fact. ![]() " border="0" /> A new item for me. I'd ordered the Voyager PE set of Maple Leaves 2, just for this project. I prepped the leaves first by painting them green with a little yellow added for variety and then painted the dark brown branch. These were then removed and shaped, then attached with CA to the root. I followed up by mixing a yellow/green and touching up any paint that had chipped during forming. ![]()
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" border="0" /> In reality, this vehicle would most likely have been unrecognizable due to the extra camo, but I'm happy with the results and it doesn't detract from the main focus. On to the Udder Side, Mooo!
"You can't hear me? YOU CAN'T HEAR ME!!?,The reason you can't hear me is, You're firing your mortar on your end and they're landing here on our end!!" Big Joe
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07-12-2009, 12:24 PM
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espins1

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Re: 1,000+ Roadwheels - 2009
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Way cool Mobius! I love those leaves! Beautiful!!!!
Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers My Reviews In progress: Dragon 1/35 JagdTiger 80%, Cyber-Hobby 1/35 Pz.Beob.Wg. IV Ausf. J 30%  
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07-12-2009, 3:00 PM
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Mobious

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Re: 1,000+ Roadwheels - 2009
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Thanks espins1, they were fun to add. A photo of the extra camo. ![]()
" border="0" /> Almost finished, I'll be settin this on a simple base similar to Ol'Stumpy's original, 'cept it will be a brick paved streets of Holland, instead of the split rock streets of Hungary.
"You can't hear me? YOU CAN'T HEAR ME!!?,The reason you can't hear me is, You're firing your mortar on your end and they're landing here on our end!!" Big Joe
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07-13-2009, 3:51 AM
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Mobious

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Re: 1,000+ Roadwheels - 2009
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Thanks for the comments psstoff, I would have liked to changed out the heads on the figures to a Hornet offering. I like the sculpting on them much better, they have more facial expressions to choose from. The supplemental camo was fun to add, especially after pruning all the trees around the bunker this spring. The zimm was also a fun addition to the build. I've done several with this method and as I've said earlier, getting an even coating is the most difficult aspect for me. I have used the Cavalier sets and had good results with them. I like the looks of the Attak offerings alot. I've also seen here on the forums exceptionally well done zimm with a soldering iron. Bottom line is there are many ways to Skin a Cat (or a PzIV), and the end results are worth the effort, IMO. Thanks again for checking in and the positive comments, both are greatly appreciated.
"You can't hear me? YOU CAN'T HEAR ME!!?,The reason you can't hear me is, You're firing your mortar on your end and they're landing here on our end!!" Big Joe
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07-13-2009, 6:35 PM
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wing_nut

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Re: 1,000+ Roadwheels - 2009
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Just went back a crap load of pages. WOW there is butt kickin' stuff coming out of this GB. BTW... anyone seen dupes?
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07-14-2009, 10:10 AM
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SMJmodeler

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Re: 1,000+ Roadwheels - 2009
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Mobious: wow...I mean...WOW!!! This baby is coming along GREAT! I knew the fig's were going to compliment the tank and you definately didn't disaapoint, they look fantastic. What's with the leaves? those things are friggin' AWESOME! I never did like the bunches that the model railroad section of the LHS offers...yours are perfect. I can see the potential for some fall colors too. I'm sure a mini toot' would be well received by the guys who aren't following this GB, I'd sure like something to tag and print for my "techniques" folder too. Any chance you will start a new toot' thread? As great as this model looks all around I do have a few things I've noticed. I doesn't appear to have any washes, and therefore seems too clean, IMO, and the zim' appears "deep" because of it. The hatch cover is also a bit too pristine IMO..again...appears to be lack of washes. Same issue with the tools, road wheels and tracks. I'm not sure what look you're going for but I think a bit more weathering and wear is in order. I read that this will be set on brick pavement so how about some dust?. How do you plan to tie the leaves in with that setting? Spectacular work overall Mobious, she looks great as is but I hope my input helps...I really like this one ! espins1 wrote: | wing_nut wrote: | | BTW... anyone seen dupes? |
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I think he's super busy at work right now. |
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This is dupes' BUSY season, he works an equivalent year in about 3 months! His work is dependent on summer tourism in Maine and he needs to make the $$$ when he can. Don't expect his usual frequency here on the forums right now but I'm sure he's definately still around...![Smile [:)]](/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)
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07-14-2009, 5:47 PM
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Mobious

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Re: 1,000+ Roadwheels - 2009
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panzer88 wrote: | | Mobious - That's one sick looking Jagdpanzer!!! |
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Thanks (I think) panzer 88. LOL. Appreciate the comments. SMJ, I agree with you on all of your points and respect your observations. Indeed you've a keen eye. I do plan on addressing all of the points mentioned, along with a few others. I hope to have this set on a small dio/viginette depicting Arnhem,1944. I've been considering adding an abandoned/commandeered Jeep from the Brits 1st Paras along with a park wall, of sorts, covered with Ivy and a supporting character either on foot or in the Jeep. BTW, I did post a few in progress pics of the supplemental camo earlier. One other thing worth mention is to pay particular attention to areas prone to paint chipping(ie:cuts and bends) Inspect each leaf section as they are applied and touch up as needed. Trust Ol' Mo, it's easier to do as the leaves are being applied rather than after five or six layers have been added. Thanks Stick Man for the comments and checking in on the Jgdpz. Looking forward to seeing updates of progress from all. Mo
"You can't hear me? YOU CAN'T HEAR ME!!?,The reason you can't hear me is, You're firing your mortar on your end and they're landing here on our end!!" Big Joe
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07-15-2009, 6:25 AM
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wing_nut

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SMJmodeler wrote: | espins1 wrote: | wing_nut wrote: | | BTW... anyone seen dupes? |
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I think he's super busy at work right now. |
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This is dupes' BUSY season, he works an equivalent year in about 3 months! His work is dependent on summer tourism in Maine and he needs to make the $$$ when he can. Don't expect his usual frequency here on the forums right now but I'm sure he's definately still around...![Smile [:)]](/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) |
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Thanks fellas. Just making sure nothing happened.
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07-15-2009, 2:06 PM
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SMJmodeler

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Re: 1,000+ Roadwheels - 2009
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Mobious wrote: | | SMJ, I agree with you on all of your points and respect your observations. Indeed you've a keen eye. I do plan on addressing all of the points mentioned, along with a few others. I hope to have this set on a small dio/viginette depicting Arnhem,1944. I've been considering adding an abandoned/commandeered Jeep from the Brits 1st Paras along with a park wall, of sorts, covered with Ivy and a supporting character either on foot or in the Jeep. |
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I was worried I was being too critical but it appears you've got it covered ! The dio' idea sounds sweet, I'll be looking forward to seeing it!
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07-18-2009, 3:47 PM
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Mobious

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Re: 1,000+ Roadwheels - 2009
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Awesome Detailfreak, That Attak zimm is looks great. Nice job fitting. Looking forward to updates on this one!
"You can't hear me? YOU CAN'T HEAR ME!!?,The reason you can't hear me is, You're firing your mortar on your end and they're landing here on our end!!" Big Joe
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07-19-2009, 10:53 PM
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bufflehead

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Re: 1,000+ Roadwheels - 2009
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Mobious - Dude that Jagdpanzer is looking mighty fine! I love the zim work you did and the PE foliage is a great touch! Awesome figs too! Can't wait to see the dio! Got a question for you: I noticed that you didn't put zim on the top glacis, with the transmission hatches. Is this normal? The reason I ask is that I want to build a 1/72 version of this vehicle and not having to zim that plate makes my job a whole lot easier! detailfreak - Your Brummbar is coming along very nicely! That ATAK zim seems to fit darn near perfect! Must try it someday! I know dupes is very busy this time of year, but I have a Pz. IV itch and I was hoping I could do a quick (yes quick) 1/72 build of something to post, but I don't want to start posting away without letting him know about if first. Is there a "junior" GB host present? Someone to handle minor GB questions/issues when the host is out?
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07-20-2009, 2:25 AM
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Mobious

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Re: 1,000+ Roadwheels - 2009
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Thanks bufflehead for the positive comments. I've seen reference photo's of vehicles with/without the glacis plate zimmend. On the Tamiya Jgdpz that I built a couple years ago, I zimmed the glacis. It is a little tricky getting the brake/trans hatch lines rescribed. 1/72 scale would be a challenge indeed.
"You can't hear me? YOU CAN'T HEAR ME!!?,The reason you can't hear me is, You're firing your mortar on your end and they're landing here on our end!!" Big Joe
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07-20-2009, 5:35 PM
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bufflehead

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Thanks for the info Mobious. All the reference pics I have on the early Jagdpanzer IV does not clearly show whether the top glacis was zimmed. I'll check a few other sources. If it could go either way I know which route I'll take!!
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07-20-2009, 7:39 PM
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detailfreak

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mobious,feast your eyes on this. looks wet to me.water in the distributer cap?and this .not bad. definitely zimmerit.another,i believe you can make out the zim.if i find the pictures of the jagdpanzer i'll share that too.for now you'll have to enjoy the stugs.
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07-20-2009, 9:02 PM
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Mobious

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Re: 1,000+ Roadwheels - 2009
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Catastrophic Distributer Cap Failure! Awesome shots. I wonder how the Stug ended up in the water in the 1st photo? I haven't alot of reference material on the SdKfz 162, but this photo I think looks like a smoothie! ![]() " border="0" /> This may be rare and not the norm. I couldn't say positive, but I do believe it is possible. Here's a photo of the Tamiya JgdPzIV that I zimmed way back. ![]()
" border="0" /> I did zimm the glacis, just didn't get the brake cooling vents.
"You can't hear me? YOU CAN'T HEAR ME!!?,The reason you can't hear me is, You're firing your mortar on your end and they're landing here on our end!!" Big Joe
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