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   06-27-2009, 9:32 AM
KJ200


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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

The Revell K is finally coming together paintwork wise.

Like many late war 109s the one I'm modeling will have an 81/83 vertical tail which doesn't match the rest of the airframe's camo!

As it's meant to be a hard edged mottle, I simply sprayed the 83, then masked with blobs of Blu-Tak, shooting the 81 over the top. Looks like it's got some sort of nasty disease in the photo!

Once that was done I applied the RLM 75 to the upper surfaces.

Only the joints with the tail empenage were masked, as every thing else was soft edged, so I just free handed that. In the process I discovered a seam on the front edge of the wing that I hadn't dealt with properly, so out came the Mr Surfacer and sanding sticks.

As per usual I faded back all the panel centres for that weathered look.

Here it is with the prop on..

I think the prop is either an Eagle editions or some other AM brand, that I bought for my Hase K a few years back, and which has resided in the spares box ever since.

This afternoon, I hope to get the 83 on, which should mean I'll be ready to decal by Monday.

Karl

 


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Tamiya 1/48 Fw 190D-9

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   06-27-2009, 10:29 AM
Daywalker


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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

Karl-

Man, I am loving that one!  Your technique for the hard mottle on the tail is what I use as well, looks perfect!  The fading is superbly done, and the spinner looks very good indeed.  This is some awesome stuff, can't wait for the next set of progress pics! Bow [bow]

You know, I am really wanting to build another one seeing your work. Approve [^]


Frank
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   06-27-2009, 12:03 PM
KJ200


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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

Frank, many thanks for the kind comments.

I've just finished the 83. it took me longer to mask it than spray it!

As per usual I drew out the camo on masking tape applied over the ares to be masked.

I then remove the masking tape, and cut out with a new scalpel blade, then simply reapply.

Aeromaster have lived up to their Errormaster soubriquet with the painting guide on this.  I'm just glad I've got a picture of the real machine, or this model would have looked nothing like the real deal.

I'll remove the masking tonight, then tomorrow should be a case of painting in the details and the mottle, before applying a coat of future.

Karl


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   06-27-2009, 12:27 PM
soulcrusher


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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

Looking real good Karl. It is always alot of masking and spraying when building these 109's. I think that is why I like them so much. So many different colors. I have a very close pic of a K model taken after the end of the war. A bunch of them are parked under some trees in various state of disrepair. The pic of the tail is so close you can see all of the detail perfectly and I would have to say the spots on the tail were definetly spray through some sort of mask because the edges of the spots are very hard edged. Looking foward to seeing more of this great build.

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   06-27-2009, 2:10 PM
dupes


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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

Karl - your K is looking really good. Question about your camo masking method - do you ever end up lifting the base coat using that method? Or have your tape lose it's adhesive qualities? If it works, sure seems like it would make some tough paint jobs a lot easier. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank - I am indeed still "in progress" on my Revell G10...let me see what I can do about getting her done tomorrow (crappy weather permitting!). Smile [:)]


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   06-27-2009, 3:07 PM
KJ200


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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

SC, I think that is why I enjoy late war Luftwaffe aircraft so much.

So many bizarre camo schemes.

Dupes, I've never had an issue with the base coat lifting off, but then I always use a primer, and allow 24 hours between one camo colour and masking the next.

Since my last post I've removed the masking for the 83.

There are a couple of areas where a re-touch is required, and I've buffed out any areas of over spray with a fine sanding pad and lots of water.

Tomorrow I'll paint the details like the exhausts and DF loop base, and spray the remaining mottle on the fuselage.

Karl 


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Tamiya 1/48 Fw 190D-9

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   06-27-2009, 6:00 PM
luftwaffle


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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09
Karl- Excellent work on the paint, looks really good!

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   06-27-2009, 6:15 PM
luftwaffle


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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

OK, I have been working on this one sporadically.  Was in Japan for a week and getting some things corrected on this beast turned out to be more of a project than I thought!

Lower Wing: Since this guy does double duty as a pre-assembled "collectable" it has some ugly holes where some poor, underpaid guy in China has to screw it together.  Obviously this doesn't work out for me so these require filling and sanding.  The wheel wells are probably the weakest part of the kit, detail is non-existent.  I lined the wheel bay with .010" sheet styrene and the strut bay with lead foil.  The strut stowage area should have four oblong ovals (lightening holes), I tried a couple of methods to do these but none were satisfactory so it will remain "as-is".  Next time I'll try a resin insert for this.

The landing and radiator flaps will be re-positioned for a more natural look.  The landing flaps were completely cut off and some 1/2 round oval stock was glued on then filled and sanded.  The upper wheel bays received some plastic stock to simulate the the ribbing.

The wing radiators also needed some help, I cast these intake screens myself to insert into the openings.

The screw holes in the fuselage were a real bugger to get filled in right, I'm not sure that they're perfect but I'm sick of messing with them at this point.

Should have some more pics up soon, getting ready to do some painting...


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   06-27-2009, 8:01 PM
soulcrusher


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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

Karl I am likeing that 109 even more everytime I see it. She is really going to be a looker when your all done.

 

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   06-27-2009, 10:06 PM
Daywalker


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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09
 soulcrusher wrote:

Karl I am likeing that 109 even more everytime I see it. She is really going to be a looker when your all done.

 

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Mike- Looks like you will have your hands full on that one!  Sure is unusual seeing that enormous beastie on your bench after all of those tiny scale kits. Smile [:)]


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   06-28-2009, 1:12 AM
Thunderbolt379

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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

SC --Ah-ha! Well, I look forward to building her! I'll consider an AM cockpit and anything else that looks attractive, I got her for a buy-now price of US$9.99 so it looks like a real bargain.

Karl -- you're moving along here and it's looking great! I'm closing in one the same stage myself, the RLM 76 went on today and I'm hoping that if the masking isn't too time-consuming I might be able to get the 75 on late tomorrow. Then I need a decent span of weather/humidity to remask and shoot the green -- and that'll bring me to the old 82/83 question. It looks like this bird calls for the darker of the two, whichever that is in these particular MM bottles!

Lufty -- that's an ambitious job, turning the parts of a pre-finished style model into a properly finished one. I look forward to seeing how it turns out.

WIP shots: RLM 76 on:

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Ancillary parts sprayed 02, spinner cone in satin black, and the prop blades are now sanded and resprayed 70.

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Cheers, more asap,

Mike


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   06-28-2009, 3:29 AM
KJ200


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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

Guys, thanks for the kind comments.

As you can probably guess I'm really enjoying this build.

Lufty, the big G is looking good.

I was looking at 21st Century's Ju 87  a few weeks back as my next build, as it looks good and is dirt cheap. Always good in my book!

Mike, making great progress there.

With regard the 82/83 issue, 83 should be the darker of the two colours.

Well, it's hot sunny and dry here in Oxfordshire, something I don't get to say too often, so should be a good day to finish off the paint.

Karl

 


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   06-28-2009, 12:48 PM
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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09
 KJ200 wrote:

Lufty, the big G is looking good.

I was looking at 21st Century's Ju 87  a few weeks back as my next build, as it looks good and is dirt cheap. Always good in my book!

Thanks, Karl.

I just picked the Stuka up on Ebay for $5.50!  The decals alone are worth more than that.  The interior should lend itself well to some serious detaling.  21st CT pulled their website down so I think they're out of business.  Hopefully they re-organize or someone else buys the molds, it would be a shame for these things to disappear.  They're not perfect but where else are you going to get a decent 1/32 model for this cheap?


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   06-28-2009, 7:37 PM
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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

Well I am about 95% done. Today I put on a topcoat that is a mix of satin/semigloss clear. The panel lines were weathered prior with HB pencil. Since I am building a Bodenplatte raider and most of those aircraft were comparativley new aircraft, I am keeping weathing to a minimum.

All I need to do is canopy framing, attach it, along with touch up of the rear cockpit bulkhead and som final small add ons/touch ups.

More to follow in the next few days...


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   06-29-2009, 5:32 AM
Thunderbolt379

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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

Stik -- looking great!

Limited proigress today, I patched up some more 76 needed here and there, including rhe outside of the gear bay doors and split flaps, the exhaust shields and underwing antenna. Then I assembled the prop:

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and

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Which brings me to:

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The question I'm asking myself now is whether I've been too clever -- should I have tried winding on the spiral decal before fitting the blades? Will they just get in the way? The problem is the positive location devices are meant to be engaged before the cone is added to the base, so structurally it needed to be done this way, certainly to ensure the blades sat correctly. I'm not looking forward to the spinner decal.

The 76 on the fuselage sides doesn't show up in this shot against the gray plastic, but it's there. I'm thinking I might soft-mask the wing camo, freehand the fuselage with the small tip and needle, then soft-mask a fresh shot of 76 over the edges. Whatever way I go, this'll be a challenge!

Cheers,

Mike


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   06-29-2009, 11:30 AM
Daywalker


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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

Carlos- Looks like you are just about ready to cross the finish line!  Very nice work, can't wait to add this one to page 1. Approve [^]

Mike- Yours is coming along rather well too.  I dunno about adding the spiral around the prop blades, think they might hinder your work.  I shall keep my fingers crossed for you on this one, though. Wink [;)]


Frank
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   06-30-2009, 1:25 AM
Thunderbolt379

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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

Hi Frank -- you might be right. I've been studying the plans more closely and the more I look at the built-up model photos the more I'm convinced the spiral was masked and sprayed, not done with the supplied decal. In the photos the spiral's leading edge begins flush with the rearmost edge of the backplate, while in the decal instructions it begins butting square against a prop blade apperture. Other sources are hard to judge, but I'm thinking the best thing I can do is give the decal a shot as per the instructions, and if it doesn't work, mask and spray the white line as per the photos, probably doing the innermost part freehand.

Research also suggests that while this plane had the open white style of cross, the fuselage crosses were backed with RLM 83 where the black would have been on a closed cross -- not sure if I'll try to reproduce this, it's far from an easy scheme!

Cheers,

Mike

EDIT:

Okay, the decal broke up and went on in four pieces, and the first of probably half a dozen coats of MicroSol is drying right now. I might be posting a pic tonight.

EDIT:

Here it is!

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Okay, not perfect, but not too much of a disaster. It's mostly settled down after four or five applications of MicroSol, and considering how it tried to roll up while still on the backing paper I think it fought me less than it could have. There, my first attempt at a spiralschnauze -- any tips for the future?


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   06-30-2009, 7:14 PM
Daywalker


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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09
Mike- From what I can see, looks like you tamed the beast!  Looks very good in the photo.  I have never seen one that ended like that, all of them I have seen went down to the backplate.

Frank
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   06-30-2009, 7:26 PM
Thunderbolt379

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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

Hi Frank --thanks! Well, the kit decal was clearly not designed to snug down to the back plate. I could have tried hanging it over the edge and trimming the excess but the designed curvature would then not have matched the cone. I'm thinking I can either paint on a swatch, or cut a small piece of decal material, to follow the line on the other side of the blade opening so the eye sees the spiral continue until it disappears at the black plate. That would perhaps not be completely historically accurate in terms of the number of turns in the spiral, but more accurate than the spiral ending at the notch.

Hoping to get some 75 on today,

Mike


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   07-01-2009, 9:25 PM
Daywalker


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Re: Bf-109: Reich Defender GB 11/27/08-7/1/09

Well my friends...

Today is officially the last day for this group build, though I would encourage all who are still working on their kits to continue the builds and post your progress as you can.  I know that Karl, Carlos, Mike, and Mike are working on theirs, anyone else still building?  As soon as we have all of the intended builds completed, I plan to post them all in the Aircraft section so that everyone can see the overwhelming talent displayed here.  Gentlemen- It has been my absolute pleasure to build here with you, and to share all that we have shared on these pages.  Thank you all for making this one of the best Group Builds I have had the pleasure of participating in, and I salute each and every one of you.

Thank you. Approve [^]


Frank
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