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Started by chopperfan at 05-19-2008 5:23 PM. Topic has 180 replies.
 
 
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05-19-2008, 5:23 PM
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chopperfan

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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.
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Grifter123 wrote: | chopperfan wrote: | | What unit was he with? I have a website of a squadron that that particular plane flew with. I might be able to cross reference the other numbers with existing birds? Let me know. |
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I believe it was VP-7, although I'm not positive. I know they were stationed in Greenland and Newfoundland for a time. It was around 1960 or so. |
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Okee dokee............. if it WAS VP-7 these are the Neptunes that served with them. in the 131 series anyway, that the where-abouts are known. Now, I did come across a couple in that range that are not listed on the VP site. So, I don't know if they were in VP-7 or not. 131410 - Jacksonville NAS - 2005 - static display 131482 - Evergreen - 2003 - storage in AZ 131506 - Neptune Aviation - 2000 - spare in Missoula, MT The year is the last known information. According to F.A.A. records, Neptune Aviation has 18 Neptunes registered.
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05-20-2008, 6:05 AM
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Grifter123

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Randie, I finally got ahold of dad last night and it was indeed VP-7, and we went through the lists on warbirds and FAA. We couldn't find his primary or secondary planes, or the one his crew borrowed to fly to the arctic circle. Your findings have the same result. So it doesn't look like any of the aircraft he was familiar with are still around, they probably wore out and were scrapped long ago! Thanks again for your efforts looking into this, and sorry to hijack the thread!
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05-20-2008, 8:18 AM
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simpilot34

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Grifter, I enjoyed hearing about it all! Was very interesting, learned a few things and found more interesting links. I don't think you hijacked the thread, it was all relevant to the topic. More research material at hand for future reference! I think we all agree that if we can help someone, it's all good! Cheers, Richie
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05-20-2008, 8:25 AM
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HawkeyeHobbies

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Someone just donated to me an Academy CH-46 that I am considering making into a Firebird. I need something for my "Fire Boss" to direct!
Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt http://www.hawkeyeshobbies.com http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com http://imagesbyhawkeye.com Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench.
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05-20-2008, 5:23 PM
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Aaronw

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HawkeyeHobbies wrote: | | Someone just donated to me an Academy CH-46 that I am considering making into a Firebird. I need something for my "Fire Boss" to direct! |
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I like the Thunderbolt, I knew it would look good in firefighting colors.
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05-21-2008, 2:39 AM
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simpilot34

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Imagine loitering above it all in a JUG? That would be nice! Really nice looking! Sorta like an modified Arctic scheme. Cheers, Richie
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie
"To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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05-21-2008, 4:44 PM
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HawkeyeHobbies

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I hope to start my CH-46 project this weekend...I've christened it "Tinkle Bug". I've got to dig throught the spares to find some clear blisters for the observers windows and fab up something for the pilot and copilot doors so the crew can stick their heads out further. A little master making and vac forming I think will do the trick. This is gonna be fun! I'll be sure to post WIP here as well as in my blog. "Tinkling On Fires Is Our Specialty"
Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt http://www.hawkeyeshobbies.com http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com http://imagesbyhawkeye.com Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench.
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05-22-2008, 2:34 AM
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simpilot34

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YES, please tell and show us Hawk!!!! Us builders of 1/72 are on a constant quest of getting nice looking scale canopies and glass work. Can't wait to see the pics! Love the name too!!!![Wink [;)]](/emoticons/icon_smile_wink.gif) Cheers, Richie
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"To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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05-22-2008, 9:13 PM
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chopperfan

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Aaronw wrote: | Bondoman, I don't know, it looks like his most recent post was Feb and I didn't see anything about leaving for awhile. I'm going through and trying to finish up a bunch of my incomplete builds, some go back several years. Since this build is starting up again I thought I'd post the firefighting related ones as I finish them. Anyway, I just finished this up, it is a Sikorsky S58 operated by Aircrane Inc in Atlanta, GA. They are primarily an airlifting outfit but do contract for firefighting services. I found some pics of this one from the 70's at airliners.com. I doubt they still have any of these piston engined helicopters in service but they do operate a fleet of the turbine S58T's in a slightly different paint job. I used the 1/72 Italeri UH-34J kit basically OOB with decals I made on the computer. |
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Hey Aaron! I've been watching the fire out in Corralitos on the NBC 11 on the net and I saw an S-58 on a couple of different occasions. I could see it good enough to tell it was an S-58, but not whether it was a turbo or not. It was red and white, so I am going to try and do a search and try and figure out who might be flying it out there.
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05-22-2008, 10:15 PM
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bondoman

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chopperfan wrote: | Aaronw wrote: | | Bondoman, I don't know, it looks like his most recent post was Feb and I didn't see anything about leaving for awhile. I'm going through and trying to finish up a bunch of my incomplete builds, some go back several years. Since this build is starting up again I thought I'd post the firefighting related ones as I finish them. Anyway, I just finished this up, it is a Sikorsky S58 operated by Aircrane Inc in Atlanta, GA. They are primarily an airlifting outfit but do contract for firefighting services. I found some pics of this one from the 70's at airliners.com. I doubt they still have any of these piston engined helicopters in service but they do operate a fleet of the turbine S58T's in a slightly different paint job. I used the 1/72 Italeri UH-34J kit basically OOB with decals I made on the computer. |
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Hey Aaron! I've been watching the fire out in Corralitos on the NBC 11 on the net and I saw an S-58 on a couple of different occasions. I could see it good enough to tell it was an S-58, but not whether it was a turbo or not. It was red and white, so I am going to try and do a search and try and figure out who might be flying it out there. |
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I'll watch too. This is about 50 miles due south of where we live and there is a big wet bay in between. My F-I-L lives about 15 miles downwind, out on the coast in Carmel and I'm a little worried about his breathing, but I think he'll be fine. He may have to drive up here for a while and drink brown liquor and clean guns.... I started watching at 6.00 am which is when I get up and it went from 500 to 1000 to 3000 acres over the day. It's now being called the Summit Fire, I think.
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05-23-2008, 12:13 AM
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simpilot34

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Looked at youtube and saw a few vids on the santa cruz fires and they showed some S58Ts with a dark bottom, looked black or dark blue. Was too fuzzy to be sure. One vid that caught my attention was a Huey Cobra in USFS garb! N107Z Very striking scheme on a Cobra I must say. Making notes to self on that one for future referance!![Whistling [:-^]](/emoticons/icon_smile_whistling.gif) Cheers, Richie
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie
"To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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05-25-2008, 9:52 PM
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scottrc

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Just checking in with an update on my Conair DC-6. Got the upper and lower paint scheme done. Hey, actually got the lines strait.
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05-26-2008, 11:09 AM
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simpilot34

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Looking good Scott! Very nice! Was going to ask what scale, scrolled back, and saw that its 1/144! How did you do your tank? Was wondering if your technique might be used in 1/72? Cheers, Richie
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05-26-2008, 12:12 PM
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Aaronw

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simpilot34 wrote: | | Looked at youtube and saw a few vids on the santa cruz fires and they showed some S58Ts with a dark bottom, looked black or dark blue. Was too fuzzy to be sure. One vid that caught my attention was a Huey Cobra in USFS garb! N107Z Very striking scheme on a Cobra I must say. Making notes to self on that one for future referance!![Whistling [:-^]](/emoticons/icon_smile_whistling.gif) Cheers, Richie |
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I'm becoming convinced the USFS Cobra is a hoax. All the photos of it are of the (pilots) right side and I've never seen it on a fire despite being on huge fires when not much else is going on in the state (Zaca 2 last year for example). I think someone pocketed several million dollars and it is really just one of those old vertibird play sets and there is a wire arm coming out of the left side. ![Big Smile [:D]](/emoticons/icon_smile_big.gif)
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05-26-2008, 9:47 PM
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simpilot34 wrote: | | Looking good Scott! Very nice! Was going to ask what scale, scrolled back, and saw that its 1/144! How did you do your tank? Was wondering if your technique might be used in 1/72? Cheers, Richie |
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The kit comes as a representation of a Conair DC-6. The tank comes molded and the fit was less than good. Took quite a bit of filling and sanding, even for 1/144. But overall, it is looking good. I'm am putting on the landing gear tonight and hope to have all the decals dressed out this week. Now I want to start on my A-26 but also wouldn't mind doing a TBM like what flew out of Missoula. Scott
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05-26-2008, 11:26 PM
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chopperfan

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simpilot34 wrote: | Looking good Scott! Very nice! Was going to ask what scale, scrolled back, and saw that its 1/144! How did you do your tank? Was wondering if your technique might be used in 1/72? Cheers, Richie |
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I am going to attempt to cast one in resin for the 1/72 Heller -6 kit. I have one that came with the -6 Securite Civile version and am going to use it for a pattern. I don't know when I will be able to get around to it, though. First I have to get some RTV and resin! The reason I am going to try and cast one is to make it like the ones used by Aero Union and others. The tank that came in the kit was of a different type. So, if you're not in a biiiiig hurry. I will see what I can come up with.
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05-27-2008, 11:19 AM
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simpilot34

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Aaronw wrote: | simpilot34 wrote: | | Looked at youtube and saw a few vids on the santa cruz fires and they showed some S58Ts with a dark bottom, looked black or dark blue. Was too fuzzy to be sure. One vid that caught my attention was a Huey Cobra in USFS garb! N107Z Very striking scheme on a Cobra I must say. Making notes to self on that one for future referance!![Whistling [:-^]](/emoticons/icon_smile_whistling.gif) Cheers, Richie |
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I'm becoming convinced the USFS Cobra is a hoax. All the photos of it are of the (pilots) right side and I've never seen it on a fire despite being on huge fires when not much else is going on in the state (Zaca 2 last year for example). I think someone pocketed several million dollars and it is really just one of those old vertibird play sets and there is a wire arm coming out of the left side. ![Big Smile [:D]](/emoticons/icon_smile_big.gif) |
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In this video on youtube they showed a left side shot pretty close inside a hangar on one of the slides. Google the rego and see what you think. It seems to be used to detect hot spots. Has an IR turret under the nose. Dunno, but it looks pretty cool! Cheers, Richie
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05-27-2008, 11:28 AM
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simpilot34

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chopperfan wrote: | simpilot34 wrote: | | Looking good Scott! Very nice! Was going to ask what scale, scrolled back, and saw that its 1/144! How did you do your tank? Was wondering if your technique might be used in 1/72? Cheers, Richie |
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I am going to attempt to cast one in resin for the 1/72 Heller -6 kit. I have one that came with the -6 Securite Civile version and am going to use it for a pattern. I don't know when I will be able to get around to it, though. First I have to get some RTV and resin! The reason I am going to try and cast one is to make it like the ones used by Aero Union and others. The tank that came in the kit was of a different type. So, if you're not in a biiiiig hurry. I will see what I can come up with. |
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I am not in a biiiiiiig hurry at all! That would be awesome Randie!!!! That is the type of tank I was thinking of anyway. Doing Tanker 68 which I think was Aero Union, so I am willing to wait to see what you come up with. Was kicking around the idea of heat forming, so the same offer stands with me. I'll see what I can come up with. Cheers, Richie
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie
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