Re: softer, more workable putty

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softer, more workable putty


bcamp1973 01-15-2007, 10:25 PM
I've been using Squadron green putty on my models and i'm finding it dries a bit to quckly for my taste. what options are out there for a slower drying, more workable putty?

Brian

“When it's all said and done, you just rented the stuff anyway”

Just finished : Tamiya 1/48 F-4U Corsair
In progress : Tamiya 1/24 Mercedes SLR McLaren
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Re: softer, more workable putty


Triarius 01-15-2007, 10:50 PM

Automotive body putties like Acryl Blue and Acryl Red can be thinned with isopropyl alcohol (90%) to the consistency of thick paint. Lesser amounts of thinner can be used to extend working time, but they will still skin over. When that happens, an old brush dipped in alcohol will allow the surface to be shaped again.

There is also another product out there (got the name buried here, somewhere… ) that's apparently a  water-soluble material with a long working time… I think the name was something like Aves .


Ross Martinek



A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink [;)]

Re: softer, more workable putty


Lufbery 01-15-2007, 11:02 PM

You can mix the Squadron putty with a bit of nail polish remover (acetone) to make it softer and more workable. That's what I do. Then, when I've got some putty on a seam, I also use the nail polish remover to wipe away all but what I need to fill the seam. Big Smile [:D]

Regards,


-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

Re: softer, more workable putty


waikong 01-16-2007, 8:58 AM
I second Drew's technique. It eliminates much of the sanding you will need to do and the risk of sanding away details.

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Re: softer, more workable putty


Triarius 01-16-2007, 9:18 AM
If you use Drew's technique, use nail polish remover, not straight acetone. Acetone is very aggressive to styrene. Most nail polish removers contain diluents and other chemicals that reduce its tendency to attack styrene.

Ross Martinek



A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink [;)]

Re: softer, more workable putty


Lufbery 01-16-2007, 9:37 AM

 Triarius wrote:
If you use Drew's technique, use nail polish remover, not straight acetone. Acetone is very aggressive to styrene. Most nail polish removers contain diluents and other chemicals that reduce its tendency to attack styrene.

Amen! I should have made that clearer. Make sure that the nail polish remover you get contains acetone, though. My understanding is that some don't.

I can't take credit for this technique, of course. Others have written about it before me. Smile [:)] 

Regards,


-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

Re: softer, more workable putty


paul_toz 01-16-2007, 10:10 AM

Just don't go and buy your nail varnish remover and nail sanding sticks from the same store - it's too embarrassing. Blush [:I]

 


Re: softer, more workable putty


jhande 01-16-2007, 11:12 AM

 bcamp1973 wrote:
I've been using Squadron green putty on my models and i'm finding it dries a bit to quckly for my taste. what options are out there for a slower drying, more workable putty?

 

I have been using 3M Automotive Putties for years for both real 1:1 car repair and my modeling.

I prefer working with Super Red Putty #05972

 

But  Acyyl-Blue Glazing Putty #05964 isn't bad either.

 

One of the nice things, a tube is cheap and will last for years if stored properly. Wink [;)]

 

 

 


-- Jim --

"Put the pedal down & shake the ground!"

Re: softer, more workable putty


jhande 01-16-2007, 11:44 AM

 paul_toz wrote:
Just don't go and buy your nail varnish remover and nail sanding sticks from the same store - it's too embarrassing. Blush [:I]

Oh stop Paul... it's just to fun!

You should see the looks I get when I have all my cosmetic supplies in hand and start asking my daughter or son - "Does this shade of nail polish look good?" 

We know it's to paint my car model, but the workers... Propeller [8-]

 

Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]


-- Jim --

"Put the pedal down & shake the ground!"

Re: softer, more workable putty


Triarius 01-16-2007, 1:18 PM
Jim, what are your recommendations for storage of the 3M products?

Ross Martinek



A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink [;)]

Re: softer, more workable putty


jhande 01-16-2007, 1:45 PM

So far Ross I haven't had any problems other than it hardening a bit in the neck of the tube, but that comes out rather easily.

I store mine inside, keep it from freezing and it should be ok.
I think if you store it along with your paints there shouldn't be a problem. And we all know your paints should be stored under the same conditions as one would feel comfortable. Not too cold and not too hot LOL. 

Just don't store it in the bathroom with your toothpaste.
Trust me... It doesn't taste so good, especially first thing in the morning.  Yuck [yuck]

 


-- Jim --

"Put the pedal down & shake the ground!"

Re: softer, more workable putty


Triarius 01-16-2007, 2:42 PM
The reason I ask is that I have a tube of Acryl Blue that is over twenty years old, and I have had some trouble with separation of what appears to be a clear resin (not a solvent) from the blue putty. It's been stored right alongside my paints—and they're fine.

Ross Martinek



A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink [;)]

Re: softer, more workable putty


jhande 01-16-2007, 7:33 PM

More than twenty years old! Shock [:O]

Actually Ross I've never had a tube last more than a 2 or 3 years as I use it for body work also.

The Super Red I use seems to have less of a seperation issue for some reason compared to the others.

While working with the putties in the shops we learned to "mush" the tubes for awhile. That would help re-mix the contents plus warm it up a bit. They seemed to work alright after re-mixing, but then again they weren't very old.

WOW I can't believe it, more than 20 years. I'd say you got your moneys worth out of that tube. Wink [;)]

 


-- Jim --

"Put the pedal down & shake the ground!"

Re: softer, more workable putty


bcamp1973 01-24-2007, 11:20 PM
 Lufbery wrote:

You can mix the Squadron putty with a bit of nail polish remover (acetone) to make it softer and more workable.



Argh! Of course, just now ready to start filling seems and my wife prefers the *non-acetone* fingernail polish remover. To late for a store run now. guess i'll have to get it tomorrow. Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions guys!

BTW, Jim, where do you get the automotive putty? Is that something i can pick up at a wallmart or maybe a pep boys?

cheers!

Brian

“When it's all said and done, you just rented the stuff anyway”

Just finished : Tamiya 1/48 F-4U Corsair
In progress : Tamiya 1/24 Mercedes SLR McLaren
Next up : AMT Jupiter II

Re: softer, more workable putty


Triarius 01-25-2007, 12:47 PM
You can get automotive putty in many auto parts stores. Pep-boys had it last time I was there. Also stores that cater to automotive refinishers.

Ross Martinek



A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink [;)]

Re: softer, more workable putty


Ratbert_CP 01-25-2007, 5:22 PM
 Triarius wrote:

There is also another product out there (got the name buried here, somewhere… ) that's apparently a  water-soluble material with a long working time… I think the name was something like Aves .

Probably Apoxie Sculpt from Aves Studio.  http://www.avesstudio.com


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Re: softer, more workable putty


Triarius 01-26-2007, 12:13 PM
That's it!

Ross Martinek



A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink [;)]

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