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Started by chopperfan at 05-27-2008 12:43 PM. Topic has 180 replies.
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   05-27-2008, 12:43 PM
chopperfan


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Oklahoma
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.
 simpilot34 wrote:
 chopperfan wrote:
 simpilot34 wrote:

Looking good Scott! Very nice! Was going to ask what scale, scrolled back, and saw that its 1/144! How did you do your tank? Was wondering if your technique might be used in 1/72?

Cheers, Richie

I am going to attempt to cast one in resin for the 1/72 Heller -6 kit. I have one that came with the -6 Securite Civile version and am going to use it for a pattern. I don't know when I will be able to get around to it, though. First I have to get some RTV and resin! Big Smile [:D] The reason I am going to try and cast one is to make it like the ones used by Aero Union and others. The tank that came in the kit was of a different type.

So, if you're not in a biiiiig hurry. I will see what I can come up with. 

I am not in a biiiiiiig hurry at all! That would be awesome Randie!!!! That is the type of tank I was thinking of anyway. Doing Tanker 68 which I think was Aero Union, so I am willing to wait to see what you come up with. Was kicking around the idea of heat forming, so the same offer stands with me.Wink [;)] I'll see what I can come up with.

Cheers, Richie

Well, actually, tanker 68 was TBM/Butler but it did have an Aero Union tank.

As soon as i can get the stuff ordered to start the project I'll get right on it. 


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   05-27-2008, 8:15 PM
simpilot34


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.
 chopperfan wrote:
 simpilot34 wrote:
 chopperfan wrote:
 simpilot34 wrote:

Looking good Scott! Very nice! Was going to ask what scale, scrolled back, and saw that its 1/144! How did you do your tank? Was wondering if your technique might be used in 1/72?

Cheers, Richie

I am going to attempt to cast one in resin for the 1/72 Heller -6 kit. I have one that came with the -6 Securite Civile version and am going to use it for a pattern. I don't know when I will be able to get around to it, though. First I have to get some RTV and resin! Big Smile [:D] The reason I am going to try and cast one is to make it like the ones used by Aero Union and others. The tank that came in the kit was of a different type.

So, if you're not in a biiiiig hurry. I will see what I can come up with. 

I am not in a biiiiiiig hurry at all! That would be awesome Randie!!!! That is the type of tank I was thinking of anyway. Doing Tanker 68 which I think was Aero Union, so I am willing to wait to see what you come up with. Was kicking around the idea of heat forming, so the same offer stands with me.Wink [;)] I'll see what I can come up with.

Cheers, Richie

Well, actually, tanker 68 was TBM/Butler but it did have an Aero Union tank.

As soon as i can get the stuff ordered to start the project I'll get right on it. 

You're awesome mate!Bow [bow] THANK YOU!!! Will pm you details later, just say when.


Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie

"To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington

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   05-31-2008, 8:56 AM
chopperfan


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.
 simpilot34 wrote:
 chopperfan wrote:
 simpilot34 wrote:
 chopperfan wrote:
 simpilot34 wrote:

Looking good Scott! Very nice! Was going to ask what scale, scrolled back, and saw that its 1/144! How did you do your tank? Was wondering if your technique might be used in 1/72?

Cheers, Richie

I am going to attempt to cast one in resin for the 1/72 Heller -6 kit. I have one that came with the -6 Securite Civile version and am going to use it for a pattern. I don't know when I will be able to get around to it, though. First I have to get some RTV and resin! Big Smile [:D] The reason I am going to try and cast one is to make it like the ones used by Aero Union and others. The tank that came in the kit was of a different type.

So, if you're not in a biiiiig hurry. I will see what I can come up with. 

I am not in a biiiiiiig hurry at all! That would be awesome Randie!!!! That is the type of tank I was thinking of anyway. Doing Tanker 68 which I think was Aero Union, so I am willing to wait to see what you come up with. Was kicking around the idea of heat forming, so the same offer stands with me.Wink [;)] I'll see what I can come up with.

Cheers, Richie

Well, actually, tanker 68 was TBM/Butler but it did have an Aero Union tank.

As soon as i can get the stuff ordered to start the project I'll get right on it. 

You're awesome mate!Bow [bow] THANK YOU!!! Will pm you details later, just say when.

OK, it's just going to be a matter of time and material.

I just finshed studying all of the pictures I have of Tanker 68 and it uses the same basic tank as the one that comes with the Heller kit. I won't have to make any mods to it just get the material and cast one. Material is the big hold up now. But, just as soon as I am able, I will get the resin adn RTV and get it done. 


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   05-31-2008, 3:01 PM
simpilot34


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.
 chopperfan wrote:
 simpilot34 wrote:
 chopperfan wrote:
 simpilot34 wrote:
 chopperfan wrote:
 simpilot34 wrote:

Looking good Scott! Very nice! Was going to ask what scale, scrolled back, and saw that its 1/144! How did you do your tank? Was wondering if your technique might be used in 1/72?

Cheers, Richie

I am going to attempt to cast one in resin for the 1/72 Heller -6 kit. I have one that came with the -6 Securite Civile version and am going to use it for a pattern. I don't know when I will be able to get around to it, though. First I have to get some RTV and resin! Big Smile [:D] The reason I am going to try and cast one is to make it like the ones used by Aero Union and others. The tank that came in the kit was of a different type.

So, if you're not in a biiiiig hurry. I will see what I can come up with. 

I am not in a biiiiiiig hurry at all! That would be awesome Randie!!!! That is the type of tank I was thinking of anyway. Doing Tanker 68 which I think was Aero Union, so I am willing to wait to see what you come up with. Was kicking around the idea of heat forming, so the same offer stands with me.Wink [;)] I'll see what I can come up with.

Cheers, Richie

Well, actually, tanker 68 was TBM/Butler but it did have an Aero Union tank.

As soon as i can get the stuff ordered to start the project I'll get right on it. 

You're awesome mate!Bow [bow] THANK YOU!!! Will pm you details later, just say when.

OK, it's just going to be a matter of time and material.

I just finshed studying all of the pictures I have of Tanker 68 and it uses the same basic tank as the one that comes with the Heller kit. I won't have to make any mods to it just get the material and cast one. Material is the big hold up now. But, just as soon as I am able, I will get the resin adn RTV and get it done. 

Thats great!!! Thanks again!!!Make a Toast [#toast]

Cheers, Richie


Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie

"To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington

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   06-02-2008, 11:26 AM
HawkeyeHobbies


Joined on 08-29-2006
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

Started working on the blister windows for my "Tinkle Bug" project. I am working on the rear observers blisters first, they will be the easiest.

 

You can follow along with the build on my blog

Still deciding as to whether it will carry an internal or external fire suppression appraratus. Confused [%-)]

 


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   06-02-2008, 6:41 PM
simpilot34


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

Hawkeye, thanks for showing us those photos. That puts a lil more in perspective on how to start vacforming things. I have been reluctant to try but actually seeing a few step by step photos it makes more sense now. Will be keeping watch on your blog as well!

Cheers, Richie


Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie

"To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington

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   06-14-2008, 12:44 AM
Aaronw


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Yosemite, CA
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

Ok, I actually started a new project just for this build (like I need an excuse to start a new project Blush [:I] ).

I'm building the Bell 205A++ we use here in the park using Italeri's 1/72 UH-1H kit.

Here is where I've gotten so far.

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   06-14-2008, 1:05 AM
bondoman


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.
We've had a couple dozen fires this week. The action has been a Skycrane and a couple of S2's. so far it's all under control.
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   06-14-2008, 6:59 AM
simpilot34


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

Aaron, looking great so far mate!!!! Looking forward to seeing this build progressing! You're right, who needs an excuse to start another project. Great work!

Cheers, richie


Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie

"To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington

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   06-14-2008, 12:50 PM
chopperfan


Joined on 11-20-2003
Oklahoma
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

 bondoman wrote:
We've had a couple dozen fires this week. The action has been a Skycrane and a couple of S2's. so far it's all under control.

I've been keeping an eye on that, Bondo. I also saw the Sacramento Huey's working the fires over that way. 


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   06-28-2008, 3:29 PM
scottrc


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

Quit a bit of footage shown in Northern CA this morning of drops.  Busy season and it is only June. Hope the wet spring in the Rockies will keep the fire danger down in the mountains.

I am about done with my DC6 build and hope to have some pictures posted soon.

Scott




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   06-28-2008, 9:23 PM
bondoman


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

Last night there were shots of a P3 dropping retardant. I thought they were grounded. Is that old footage?

The last week has been outlandish the light is orange all day. I've got breathing problems too.

The DC-10 was pic'd in the paper too.

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   06-29-2008, 8:22 AM
simpilot34


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

Looking forward to seeing your DC-6 scott! Bondo take care of yourself as best you can! Been looking at some footage on youtube of the firedrops, am starting to get a bit concerned not hearing from others. Hope all avoids you guys. Modeling wise, I hope to break sprue on my DC-6 next month. I am also going to join the majority me thinks, and start building multiple projects at once. I can see the limitations I am subjecting myself to and I am quickly not liking it lol. Went to the modelexpo in Melbourne, OZ today and scored a Heller 1/72 CL-215 along with 4 other kits and 4 sets of decals for $50!Big Smile [:D] Wishing good building to you all!

Cheers, Richie


Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie

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   07-02-2008, 5:14 PM
Aaronw


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Yosemite, CA
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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

Well no new progress, just not getting the time with the way fire season is starting up. All of our engines are being staffed 5 days a week due to staffing shortages which means we are really working 6-7 days a week which isn't leaving much time for building.

Bondo, the ex subchasers are the only older tankers still flying. The P2V Neptune and P3 Orion are flying for the feds, the S2 Tracker for the state. 

Of course the DC10 is out there too but that is a completely different creature. In SoCal you will also run across the CL415 "super scoopers" on occasion. 

The military C130 "MAFFS" have also been activated. (MAFFS Modular Airborne Firefighting System).

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   07-03-2008, 7:26 AM
simpilot34


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

Aaron!!!! Glad to see your still ok!!!!!!!!!!! Was getting worried! Obviously work calls so thats ok. Hope you guys can get a handle on it soon. How close is it getting to the Redwoods Nat'l Park!?  From your post I gather the DC-4s are now gone as well? Stay safe! Bench time is going to be a well deserved luxury!

Cheers, RichieMake a Toast [#toast]

Chopper, you doing ok???


Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie

"To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington

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   07-03-2008, 1:23 PM
jeaton01


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

Aaron and all, I got some photos of the MAFFS operations at McClellan Tuesday.  I'm working on getting them on to my website, but here are some of them.

 

 


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   07-03-2008, 9:04 PM
simpilot34


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

John, thanks for sharing the pics!! Is McClellan still an AFB?

Cheers, Richie


Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie

"To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington

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   07-03-2008, 9:49 PM
jeaton01


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

No, it's owned by the county now, and is an airport industrial park.  The museum and Coast Guard are the main remnants from the military days, and a Northrop Grumman facility.  The Cal Fire base is there too.

I put the rest of the photos up on my web page, here is the link:

http://yolo.net/%7Ejeaton/Propplanes/c130/c130.htm 


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   07-03-2008, 10:38 PM
Aaronw


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.

Thanks, great shots of the C130's.

Do you know what is happening with the old P2 crash trucks parked near the USCG base? I heard they belonged to the museum but their future was in limbo. It would be nice to see them restored even as a static display.

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   07-04-2008, 1:04 AM
bondoman


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Re: Firebirds! Forest Fire Fighting Aircraft GB.
 jeaton01 wrote:

No, it's owned by the county now, and is an airport industrial park.  The museum and Coast Guard are the main remnants from the military days, and a Northrop Grumman facility.  The Cal Fire base is there too.

I put the rest of the photos up on my web page, here is the link:

http://yolo.net/%7Ejeaton/Propplanes/c130/c130.htm 

Here's a silly story. My old (30 years ago) boss, as in major mentor, had one of those spirit ball compasses stuck to the dash of the 59 Mercury. Since he/we lived on either side of Sacto, whenever we made the trip in the car it was neccesary to go up to McCl and align the car N-S along Watt avenue and tweek the compass.

Really recently we were on south Watt for a Croatian party, but that's a story for another day.

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