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Started by wyoroy at 10-01-2008 3:11 PM. Topic has 1882 replies.
 
 
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10-01-2008, 4:09 PM
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sfcmac

Joined on 10-17-2004
League City, Texas
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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
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You know I really wanted to participate in this build but time is killing me. However looking at excellent build after jaw dropping build I have to add something at least to show my appreciation for all y'alls hard and fabulous efforts! So I did some research and finally found a suitable Sopwith Camel that was accurate and since I like figures had to do extensive research on WW I pilot uniforms. After much much effort and countless hours on the bench here is the result. Enjoy. Comments welcome.
CPT Aaron McNeal 
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10-01-2008, 6:08 PM
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StephenLawson

Joined on 10-08-2004
Colorado
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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
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No worries folks. By the way I have NO connection financially to the lozenge I was simply the consultant and modelbuilder. The good thing is we have a fine line of lozenge to use now. Mr. Sollers the owner / operator incured all the financial risk. I have encouraged him to begin advertising. By the way here is that last test I did of my five colour loz build in unfiltered sunlight.
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10-06-2008, 11:24 AM
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More Power Scotty

Joined on 11-19-2005
that state up North
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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
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Stephen, Thanks for the link on the lozenge decals! I also liked the ones for simulating the fabric patern on the decals. I will be interested in seeing the streaked painting used on the Dr.1's. When I built a couple of those planes in the past, I used an acrylic olive drab paint thinned down, and I applied it with a brush that was comparable to the same size brush that was used on the real planes. As I mentioned some time ago, I used a blue base paint, not realizing that a linen color would have been more accurate. I did notice on my Eduard "Der Rote Flieger" kit that they mention both linen and blue for the undercoat. There appears to still be some question on what was used, or perhaps they were both used when the planes were manufactured.
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10-08-2008, 5:03 PM
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More Power Scotty

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that state up North
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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
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Stephen, Once again your knowledge in this area is very impressive, and I appreciate your comments. One more question, what color would be appropriate for Voss's tripe?
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10-08-2008, 8:18 PM
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StephenLawson

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Colorado
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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
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More Power Scotty wrote: | | Stephen, Once again your knowledge in this area is very impressive, and I appreciate your comments. One more question, what color would be appropriate for Voss's tripe? |
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Wow! You don't ask the easy questions do you? Do you realize the controversy that exists on this? The short answer is that it was painted in the Fokker factory standard. Early historians said light blue over all with grren streaking on all upper surfaces. But the standard we have today is bleached linen was used for the pre-production F.I types. Solid lt. blue painting on the undersurfaces. Olive drab Streaking on the uppersurfaces, All exposed metal cowling areas were a medium green.I use a variation of the Testors Model Master dark or medium green lighten with a light grey for that. For the cowling I go with green. The white eyes would not show up well in real life on a yellow cowling. Here are two excellent threads on the subject in 1/32. For F.I 103/17 at the end of her career. For F.I 103/17 at the beginning. There is also my 1/48 version on my website in CD & downloads.
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10-10-2008, 11:11 PM
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ModelCellar
Joined on 07-22-2008
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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
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Hi folks, Finally! He's here! 1/32 (54mm) Billy Bishop is now available from Model Cellar Productions (http://www.modelcellar.com/) Sculpted by Mike Good, this is an outstanding portrait figure of Billy Bishop. ...makes a greeat accessory to that Se.5a build up above =))! Kit particulars: Billy Bishop No.60Sqdn RFC 1917 Item #32003 1/32 scale (54mm) Regards, Paul
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10-14-2008, 1:12 PM
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jgeratic1
Joined on 04-29-2006
ON, Canada
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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
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Hey everyone... Well I'm building a 1/72 Fokker Dr.I from eduard and have a few questions. First the cockpit interior, is the pilot's seat wood colour or aluminum (conflicting research results). The interior sides also have a triangular piece of wood panelling, but on the canvas section is the exterior olive streak camou visible from inside? Also with the olive streaking, would this pattern be subtlely seen through another colour if the Fokker is, for example, painted red? Would the streaks be seen on the white background of the black cross? Thanks for any help. Jack
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10-14-2008, 3:27 PM
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StephenLawson

Joined on 10-08-2004
Colorado
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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
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jgeratic1 wrote: | | Hey everyone... Well I'm building a 1/72 Fokker Dr.I from eduard and have a few questions. First the cockpit interior, is the pilot's seat wood colour or aluminum (conflicting research results). |
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Back of seat aluminum, base of seat under the parachute pack (acted as cushion) is wood. jgeratic1 wrote: | | The interior sides also have a triangular piece of wood panelling, but on the canvas section is the exterior olive streak camou visible from inside? |
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No the colours did not penetrate to the interior. jgeratic1 wrote: | | Also with the olive streaking, would this pattern be subtlely seen through another colour if the Fokker is, for example, painted red? Would the streaks be seen on the white background of the black cross? Thanks for any help Jack |
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Only if the colour covering the streaks was translucent or thinly applied. No the streaks did not ever show through the white fields or borders of the crosses.
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10-17-2008, 5:17 PM
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More Power Scotty

Joined on 11-19-2005
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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
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Stephen, Hey, what can I say, I am an instructor at a nuclear power plant, I am used to fielding tough questions. I assumed that there must be some controversy as the old Revell 1/32 scale kit mentions light metalic blue on the box, but dark green streaks in the directions (this is the kit that was molded in blue plastic). I did enjoy the conversation in the thread that you linked in your response, especially the comment about a blue dope that was sometimes used. It seems to me that the closer a kit is manufactured to when the item represented is used, the more accurate the information should be. In 1965, when my Revell kit was manufactured, there were still WWI veterans around who could have described items far better than a person trying to interpret photographs. Of course the victors get to write the history books, so I am sure that many items become "lost" over time. Anyway, I once again thank you for a very informative response.
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10-18-2008, 8:18 PM
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BGuy

Joined on 08-09-2007
Toronto
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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
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Hey Guys, Mind if I join in with my 1/48 Eduard Nieuport 17?
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10-19-2008, 9:37 AM
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raptordriver

Joined on 09-30-2006
From Vernal UT OH YEA!!
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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
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Wow Stephen that looks great, you really built alot for the build.
Andrew
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10-21-2008, 5:15 PM
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BGuy

Joined on 08-09-2007
Toronto
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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
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Hey kids--first, thanks for letting me into the GB, secondly, here are some IP snaps: (above) - Cockpit done and much of the building completed. The top wing is held in place with three delicate attachment points (i.e. the cabane struts, without the "V" struts). I moved quickly through the cockpit phase since it wasn't likely to be highly visible after closing the fuselage (all you can see without a flashlight is the seat and throttle lever. The brown paint is meant to be pre-shading, but gets lost after I have airbrush/painting trouble that demands numerous white coatings. (above) - Gah-disaster!! While doing the white coats I moved my airbrush around vigorously at one point and spilled paint directly onto the model! Note to self: *always* use the colour cup cap. Some light sanding and further painting will subsequently ensure I get rid of the splotches. More progress to come, I hope... p.s. are we going to roll this GB over into a 2008-09 Knights of the Sky, I hope? I've several more WWI kits in the stash I'd love to share work on
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