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Started by Daywalker at 11-26-2008 6:24 PM. Topic has 1882 replies.
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   11-26-2008, 6:24 PM
Daywalker


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

Stephen- That is absolutely incredible what a difference the texturing makes.  Especially with a before and after sitting right next to each other.  Unbelievable! Bow [bow]

Roger- By all means!  Please do post your progress here.  The GB runs until the end of next month so you have plenty of time. Wink [;)]


Frank
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   11-26-2008, 7:51 PM
DesertRat


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

Awesome! Thanks!

In all reality, I doubt that everything will be completed by the weekends end. Realistially there will will be a few things that will require longer. But there will be pictures aplenty to show what is happeningBig Smile [:D]


-Roger AKA "Spike"
"Ambition Bites the Nails of Success"-The Fly
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   11-27-2008, 11:16 PM
DesertRat


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

Hey guys! Here's what I got brewing here:

 

I'd gotten a pretty good start this afternoon after getting home from work. Mostly fuselage and lower wing assemblies. I've also got the landing gear struts set up.

I've learned through the research that it's prety difficult to get some good examples. Most of the pictures i've got in books and on the web are in black and white. Not to mention that some of the areas I need to see, I couldn't quite find. So tha being said, I may need to start looking at taking a few artistic liberties"- especially in the engine and cowling.

But, that's all the progress I've made this afternoon/evening here. But as always; comments/tips/critisisms are always welcomed and appreciated. But for now, I've gotta get some sleep. First thing tomorrow.....PAINT!Big Smile [:D]


-Roger AKA "Spike"
"Ambition Bites the Nails of Success"-The Fly
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   11-28-2008, 2:06 AM
StephenLawson


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

So your interested in French 5 colour camouflage? Here is a bit of fun on that subject.

Click Here.

 


It is a hard world Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!
http://www.wwi-n-plastic.com WWI aviation kit reviews
http://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/ see Early Aviation forum.
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   11-28-2008, 11:33 PM
DesertRat


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

 

As you can see, I've got paint! Come to find out, this isn't as easy of a build as I thought it would be. It's a 1/48 scale, but it's still pretty small (maybe about 6 inches long or so) so the finer details are a little harder to get to. Masking the exhaust pipes on the sides was no easy task. Dry brushing was a little frustrating too, since there was some bleed under the masking. Nothing a toothpick can't fix, I suppose...

One new thing for me was the wooden propeller. I saw with earlier builds in this GB how to get a woodgrained effect with 2 seperate shades of brown. So I tried that (one of the "artistic liberties" mentioned earlier). I originally did it in MM Wood (I dunno what the FS code is) but really didn't like the results. So, I redid it all in MM Sand and dry brushed a slight bit of military brown over for the grain. Not asgood as the rest of you guys, but at least I got te idea down. Unfortunately, my camera and lighting doesnt quite seem to be up to par, and I can't seem to get it on film...errr, I mean pixels.Whistling <img src=" border="0" width="30" height="20" />

Another fault I'd noticed was the sand/fill job. Given the fit of the two fuselage halves, it's one of those things that just has to be fixed. But since the spars running down the fuselage are so predominant, I was a little nervous to smooth the seams out more for fear of sanding the recessed lines away. I can onlt hope that they will blend in better with the finished product.


-Roger AKA "Spike"
"Ambition Bites the Nails of Success"-The Fly
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   11-29-2008, 1:28 AM
StephenLawson


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
To save details lay masking tape over the areas you want to protect then sand the seam smooth.

It is a hard world Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!
http://www.wwi-n-plastic.com WWI aviation kit reviews
http://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/ see Early Aviation forum.
http://theaerodrome.com See Models and Aircraft forums.


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   11-29-2008, 7:17 AM
More Power Scotty


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

Stephen,

You mention strange words such as "test" and "scrap sheet plastic".  For better, or in reality more likely worse, I am more of the "no guts no glory" type.  I did things a bit differently than Lars, as I base coated everything with Humbrol #64 gray, then used a dark grey on the top ssurfaces, and white on the bottom for the pre-shading.  I did not know if I would like my end results or not initially as it looked far too sloppy for my liking, but once the mile or so of masking tape came off, it did not look so bad after all.  The over coats (Gunze Sail Color (#85) and Model Master Dark Green (FS34079)) went on fine, but I probably went a little heavier than I should have.  I thinned the paints more than usual for the top coats, and not knowing whether they would darken more when dry, led me to adding perhaps a layer too much.  Is that what this "testing" stuff that you mention is for? Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Anyway, progress has been good this week, and when I get my photograph downloaded, I will show you how the cockpit turned out.  I am spending a couple of days away from home for the holiday, but will show the progress soon.  Overall, the pre-shading does really make more of a difference than I thought that it would, and even for my first attempt at it, I really do like the results.  This build has grown beyond the weekend project that I had envisioned, but the results are worth the added time, and this build should still be completed well ahead of the deadline (good Lord willing, and the creek don't rise).  

 


Scott


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   11-29-2008, 7:23 AM
More Power Scotty


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

Frank,

I think that this was brought up before, but as much fun as this group has been, are you considering another round starting in 2009?  Having the opportunity to see the work of others in this build has inspired me more than in any of the other groups that I have taken part in, and I have several more WWI planes in my stash waiting their turn.  Please let us know your thoughts on this, and thanks again for starting this group build.


Scott


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   11-29-2008, 9:03 AM
Daywalker


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

Scott,

I am so glad to hear that you have enjoyed this GB!  Honestly, the work by the members here has made it what it is.  And the info and techniques shared by our resident WWI guru Stephen Lawson has been nothing short of astounding.  THANK YOU ALL! 

As far as a round two goes, that sounds like a wonderful idea.  I have a few other Gb's in the works, with two more starting at the end of December.  I would be happy to start up another one, any thoughts on a time frame?

Two things I noticed with this one, that I am considering changing.  FIrst, I mentioned it months before it started and I think a lot of the people who signed up for it forgot about it.  Second, the long time frame may have convinced some that they could start theirs much later and still finish on time.  Possibly they forgot about it too.

So, this time around I think I would announce it two weeks before it started, and others could jump in whenever they choose.  Also, a shorter time frame might help. 

How about this, a start up sometime in May and still ending in December of 2009.  Your thoughts?


Frank
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   11-29-2008, 9:18 AM
BGuy


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
Why not just start it as the previous one ends?  Unless there's an admin/resource issue that demands a break be taken, it would be best for the GB's inertia to start a 2009 one right away.  Personally I'd love to start another build in January right away.


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   11-30-2008, 3:53 PM
Daywalker


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

I had originally planned to start a KOTS II GB later next year, as I have another (Bf-109: Reich Defender) currently running.  I could run two at once, if you fellas are interested.  I'll post it in the aircraft section to drum up some business.

This GB is ending in a month, just a thought for anyone wanting to finish their builds before the end. 


Frank
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   11-30-2008, 4:48 PM
DesertRat


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
 Daywalker wrote:

This GB is ending in a month, just a thought for anyone wanting to finish their builds before the end. 

Whistling [:-^]Wink [;)]

-Roger AKA "Spike"
"Ambition Bites the Nails of Success"-The Fly
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   12-02-2008, 4:34 PM
More Power Scotty


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

Frank,

I actually stopped by the new group first by accident, as I did not catch the II right away.  January 1 sounds great to me, and I have run and participated in multiple builds at the same time, and it really is not that bad.

 As promised, here is the in-progress photo of the Airco DH-2 interior.  Any comments and/or questions are welcomed! Big Smile [:D]  By the way, the right side is not attached at the time of the photo, I just sat it there to show the instrument panel in place.  I also apologize for the clarity, as I guess I need more work on the up close and personal shots.


Scott


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   12-03-2008, 9:49 AM
BGuy


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
Good progress, Scott.  Are you using the Weekend edition kit?  Also, to get rid of that blurr--caused by "camera shake"--just set the camera down on something steady and press the trigger like a sniper: slowly and steadily with controlled breaths.  If your camera (a digital model, yes?) has a 'close-up' (i.e. macro) setting, use it!  I love how my digital camera's close-up setting has saved me buying piles of expensive SLR macro lenses, etc etc..


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   12-03-2008, 11:42 PM
StephenLawson


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

Greetings all;

Here is a bit of fun with one of my older builds.  The first of several I have planned that replicate airframes that were on display at Ilsington's Agricultural Hall in mid & late 1918.


It is a hard world Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!
http://www.wwi-n-plastic.com WWI aviation kit reviews
http://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/ see Early Aviation forum.
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   12-03-2008, 11:53 PM
StephenLawson


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

Making some progress.

 


It is a hard world Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!
http://www.wwi-n-plastic.com WWI aviation kit reviews
http://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/ see Early Aviation forum.
http://theaerodrome.com See Models and Aircraft forums.


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   12-04-2008, 7:00 AM
Daywalker


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

Stephen- That's some fine work on both accounts!  I like your little dios, very original ideas!

The Fokker D.VI is progressing nicely.  I still cannot believe how much realism is gained by that texturing technique.  It really does look like real fabric!


Frank
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   12-04-2008, 11:59 AM
StephenLawson


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

Frank, Thanks for the kind words.  As for the diorama general layout here are 5 airframes in the ultimate version of the display.  There were others in the general display even a Halb. CL.II and a bomber or two.


It is a hard world Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!
http://www.wwi-n-plastic.com WWI aviation kit reviews
http://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/ see Early Aviation forum.
http://theaerodrome.com See Models and Aircraft forums.


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   12-04-2008, 5:32 PM
wing_nut


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008
All the chat about KotSII made me realize it has been a dog's age since I came here to make sure you guys aren't getting onto trouble.  Onthe contrary...31 completed build  OMGShock [:O]. I just went back through all the finished bbuilds...Holy baling wire Batman.... super stuff.

Marc

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   12-04-2008, 6:13 PM
DesertRat


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Re: Knights of the Sky WWI GB 9/29/2007 to 12/31/2008

Make that 32 completed build, Marc!Cool [8D]

Come to find out, Biplanes are not quite my forte.........yetBlush [:I]

While it seemed to be a relatively easy build, It turned out to be a little more challenging than I thought! I know there are alot of issues I need to improve on as far as the basics go. But overall, I'm happy with the progress I'd made with some of the newer skills and techniques!

   One thing new to me was the technique of giving a sort of woodgrain to the propeller. The struts didn't exactly turn out like I really wanted. But the Propeller itself turned out pretty good for a first try. Not as good as others here, that's for sure. But I think It's certainly a good result- all things considered!Blush [:I]

   Anyways, I submit for your approval. All critiques and critisisms welcomed! I'm always interested in suggestions or adviceBig Smile [:D]


-Roger AKA "Spike"
"Ambition Bites the Nails of Success"-The Fly
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