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Greetings. New and after advice on glue :)
Posted by Widget on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 1:48 PM

Hi all,

New to the forums, and to modeling in general. I've only ever built one model a decade ago, but never painted it, though I do enjoy watching videos of people making various models, diaramas, and using electronics/leds to bring them to life.

In the meantime, I was hoping to get some suggestions on what glue would be best to repair a computer keyboard key which broke after something heavy fell on it. I'm not sure what sort of plastics they use in these.
In the past I tried gluing a hard plastic jug for a blender that broke. I used the superglue+primer kit, I think it was loctite brand, unfortunately that didn't work. I have a feeling it was due to the small surface area that was being glued, it couldn't hold. I don't want to repeat that with the spacebar key on my keyboard, so I thought perhaps a glue that physically bonds the plastic (melts it?), then maybe reinforce the key from underneath to add strength?

I know it's not a model question, but I find plastics tricky to glue and thought this would be the best place to ask :)

 broken key

Thanks in davance, 

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  • From: AandF in the Badger State
Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 8:53 PM

Welcome to the Forum!

I think it depends on the type of plastic.  Styrene would probably react very well to a combination of traditional tube glue, with some liquid cement added.  I've found that will hold very well, because it "melts" the plastic together.

Other types of plastic don't react real well.

Maybe some kind of epoxy?

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 11:37 PM

Or maybe superglue with some accelerator like zip kicker.  Really depends on the material.  Good suggestions above.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, October 1, 2020 2:40 AM

Welcome to the forums,if you ever start up building models we will be here to help you along 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, October 1, 2020 4:43 AM

Hi;

 Welcome to the forums. As to your broken key. Do what I did and fix it with the super type glue that cures with uv lite or just use two part epoxy.  Although I have worked with plastics I can say the key definitely NOT Styrene!

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, October 1, 2020 12:01 PM

Tojo72

Welcome to the forums,if you ever start up building models we will be here to help you along  

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Posted by Bobstamp on Thursday, October 1, 2020 3:32 PM

I've had good luck with LePage's 100% glue. I've used it to glue metal to glass, wood to wood, and various types of plastic (not styrene), and to repair a tear in the woft soft rubber handle of a paring knife. This is what the product looks like; it's available in almost any hardware store:

Good luck with your keyboard.

Bob

 

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, October 1, 2020 5:01 PM

the Baron

 

 
Tojo72

Welcome to the forums,if you ever start up building models we will be here to help you along  

 

 

Yes

 

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Posted by gregbale on Friday, October 2, 2020 6:00 AM

Welcome to the forums!

As to your key...it's most likely ABS plastic, the same material used in some types of plastic plumbing fittings (and Lego blocks!). Small cans of solvent-type ABS cement should be available at most home centers and hardware stores.

Good luck with your repair.

Greg

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"Every time you correct me on my grammar I love you a little fewer."
 
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Posted by Widget on Saturday, October 3, 2020 2:48 PM

Thanks for the welcome and suggestions :)

A quick google I believe the key is made of ABS plastic, so the cement kind might be best. I've only used Acetone in the past to fix a ABS car door handle, but I had much more to work with.
The one thing that concerns me is whether the surface area of the key that's to be glued is going to be too small, and therfor lack strength? If I were to reinforce, how would I go about that? just glue strips of ABS on the underside of the key ?

Tanker-Builder
Do what I did and fix it with the super type glue that cures with uv lite 



Thanks for the suggestion :). How does the UV glue compare to Superglue or ABD cement? I have a UV light here that I got off ebay, though don't know if these cheap lights are true UV lights or just purple.


On the topic of models, one thing I'm curious of it, what do you guys do with your models once done? Do you sell then invest in more models?
I ask as, even though model making seems fun, the cost of each model seems costly, and they would eventually take up space.


Thanks again for the feedback and welcomes :)

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  • From: Towson MD
Posted by gregbale on Saturday, October 3, 2020 3:20 PM

Widget
The one thing that concerns me is whether the surface area of the key that's to be glued is going to be too small, and therfor lack strength? If I were to reinforce, how would I go about that? just glue strips of ABS on the underside of the key ?

That's always potentially an issue with small parts. If you have the space, then any kind of reinforcement might help.

It occurs to me to ask...have you looked into simply getting a replacement key? They are available for most models, and there are quite a few Youtube videos demonstrating the necessary procedures. It might be cheaper in the long run than trying to repair it.

Greg

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Posted by Widget on Saturday, October 3, 2020 4:00 PM

gregbale

That's always potentially an issue with small parts. If you have the space, then any kind of reinforcement might help.

It occurs to me to ask...have you looked into simply getting a replacement key? They are available for most models, and there are quite a few Youtube videos demonstrating the necessary procedures. It might be cheaper in the long run than trying to repair it.



Thanks for the reply :). I've contacted Corsair, just waiting on a reply. From what I've found online however, because the keyboard is a membrane style keyboard, it's unlikely I'll be able to get replacement keys, unlike Mechanical keyboards, where keys are easier to replace.

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Posted by Widget on Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:09 PM

Tanker-Builder

Do what I did and fix it with the super type glue that cures with uv lite...

 



Just wondering what UV Curing Adhesive you might recommend for gluing the key? 

I came across this glue,... 

http://www.chemtools.com.au/product/adhesives-sealants/instant-adhesives/rapidstick-8414-cyanoacrylate-adhesive/

...and though it's a "Cyanoacrylate Adhesive", this website has a table which says UV curable adhesives have good resistance...

https://www.antala.uk/adhesive-for-bonding-abs/


I sent an email off to Corsair to confirm the keys on the K55 are ABS to, just in case.

[edit] Corsair got back to me and said they were ABS keys.

Thanks,
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