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General observations on modeling and growing older.
Posted by Tarasdad on Sunday, April 13, 2014 9:50 PM

Prior to starting up building models again last year I hadn't built a kit in probably 20 years. Other things intervened, as they have a tendency to do. It wasn't for a lack of kits to build - at one time I had probably 30 kits waiting for me to get them done. Unfortunately real life, work, school and a lack of money intruded. Now that I'm retired on disability I have time to start up again. As I've begun to build kits I've noticed a few things:

  • The floor has gotten farther away
  • Getting down on my knees to retrieve a dropped part involves far more exercise than I remember it taking
  • Dropped parts are far better at evading recapture than they used to be
  • Fine details are much more difficult to paint at 51 than they were at 21
  • The smell of paint, thinner and glue is less enjoyable than I recall

One thing I can't grumble about is the quality of modern kits. The level of detail some show is absolutely incredible! The prices are higher, but that's a universal thing - nothing is as cheap as it used to be.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:24 PM

All oh so true... Even with no extended breaks from modeling since I was a young boy... Well maybe not the part about the scent of paint, glue, and thinner...

 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:45 PM

Very true guys- I also seem to require more naps in between getting things done...Sleep

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:56 PM

I'm hoping that keeping the mind active with models will help stave off both senility and the grumpy-old-man syndrome!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Tarasdad on Monday, April 14, 2014 12:20 AM

Hate to tell you, but GOMS is inevitable.

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Posted by Raualduke on Monday, April 14, 2014 1:23 AM

I feel your pain. When did 1/35 get so small?

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 14, 2014 3:05 AM

checkmateking02

I'm hoping that keeping the mind active with models will help stave off both senility and the grumpy-old-man syndrome!

That's my plan as well, apart from the GOMS, I think I was born with that.

I have only had a 5 year break from the hobby, 2003 to 2008. The one thing I noticed when I started back up was my eyes aching and straining to focus on things. That was easily solved. Though I have just got my first pair of reading glasses, I only need them for extremely fine print. So far, that's the only thing to go.

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Posted by Eagle90 on Monday, April 14, 2014 5:27 AM

LOL!  Oh yeah.  All very true!  Especially the eyes!  What a wake up call when I first got back into the hobby and tried to do a 1/72 plane!  Played trombone with the little guy before I admitted it was age!  Embarrassed  Now I have an optivisor!  Best darn purchase I have made since getting back into the hobby!  Wink

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Monday, April 14, 2014 8:57 AM

It takes a lot longer to understand the instructions than it used to!

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by Raualduke on Monday, April 14, 2014 9:47 AM

Makes me wonder if all these if all these great 1/32 kits  that have been released lately are geared to us old geezers.

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Posted by Geezer on Monday, April 14, 2014 9:52 AM

I swear that the scales, while being still called 1/72, 1/48, 1/32, etc, have gotten smaller as have many things, like candy bars, "one pound" of bacon, coffee and so on. What is ironic to me is that now that I have some income to use to buy kits, airbrushes, tools, etc.....everything else has "up and left"!

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Posted by fox on Monday, April 14, 2014 11:07 AM

I hear what you all say and I agree with all of it. I was using reading glasses and then a large magnifier with a light in it. I switched to an optivisor. Great invention. I also seem to have another problem that started a few years ago. Every time I am working on "small" parts, the freight trains start going by under the workbench making my hands shake. Anyone have any ideas on how to stop those darn trains? I tried a shot of good old Irish Whiskey, but then it seems that I can't tolerate it like I used to Wink and it renders the optivisor useless. Problems. Problems. I guess I should expect all this after building for 67 of my 73 years.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Monday, April 14, 2014 3:20 PM

All I can say is thank God for the optivisor,  1/32 and 1/24 scales! :nerd:

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Posted by castelnuovo on Monday, April 14, 2014 4:10 PM

fox

 I also seem to have another problem that started a few years ago. Every time I am working on "small" parts, the freight trains start going by under the workbench making my hands shake. Anyone have any ideas on how to stop those darn trains? I tried a shot of good old Irish Whiskey, but then it seems that I can't tolerate it like I used to Wink

Jim Captain

One option to stop the tremors is to have your arms and/or hands supported on the table.

Another option is to use weighted gloves. These are not gloves that are used in a gym. These are gloves that leave your fingertips open so that you can feel, but the fingers have small weighted wires or beads added to them. They can reduce or eliminate the tremors. I don't know where to get them, I saw them in a hospital once, but with a bit of creativity you may be able to make them.

Then you can make few more and sell them to us Big Smile. We can talk royalties later...Big Smile

Cheers...

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Posted by fox on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:01 PM

I like both of those ideas. I'll try the first one out this afternoon, and I'll do some research on the second one tonight.

Wish I could get to use a DaVinci machine like the ones used in the hospitals. Our Senior Citizen Group got to see one up close and actually try to use it to pick up a dime, turn it around, stand it on end. Saw a film of it in use and the doctor had a problem with his hands shaking. The machine picks this up and adjusts for it so the knife or other instruments don't shake. Wow, what I could do with that.

Thanks for the suggestions! I appreciate it.

Jim Captain

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Posted by fox on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:36 PM

Castelnuovo, I tried resting my hands on the workbench while working on some parts for a jeep model tonight. Instead of just holding the part out in front of me while I worked on it, I placed my hands on the workbench. It really seemed to cut down a lot on the shaking. I got quite a bit of work done. Thanks a lot for the tip. I really appreciate it.

Jim Captain

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Posted by Tarasdad on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:38 PM

Discovered another couple of addition to my list of observations:

  • My body doesn't tolerate long sessions at the modeling bench the way it used to.
  • Headaches. I never used to get headaches when building/painting models.

Part of the first (probably a significant part, if not the primary cause) is that I now have severe progressive and degenerative osteoarthritis of the spine. Traumatically induced due to a near-fatal motorcycle accident in 1999. It's why I was retired and on disability before age 50. I'm pretty sure it's also a contributory factor for the headaches as well since the arthritis in my spine causes nerve issues, which in turn cause muscles to tighten up, which in turn causes....

Oy vey.... Dead

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Posted by armornut on Thursday, April 17, 2014 7:24 PM

I've noticed that as a young modelerni couldn't get enough models, tools and such, now 30yrs later I have more kits than I know what to do with, more tools than hands to use them, and even though I'm currently a student time seems to be at a premium. I think that the early onset of GOMS. Thanks for the foresight ya old grumps LOL.

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:00 PM

It's the fingers for me, I came down with RA last year and like everybody else good and bad days but these new kits are really enjoyable,. Some are complicated but they build really nice AND the options we have now in AM items and types of kits that are available makes for a great time to build.  

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Posted by castelnuovo on Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:28 PM

fox

Castelnuovo, I tried resting my hands on the workbench while working on some parts for a jeep model tonight. Instead of just holding the part out in front of me while I worked on it, I placed my hands on the workbench. It really seemed to cut down a lot on the shaking. I got quite a bit of work done. Thanks a lot for the tip. I really appreciate it.

Jim Captain

You most welcome, fox. I just graduated today from the physio school, glad to put my knowledge to good use.

Cheers...

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, April 20, 2014 12:29 PM

I just love the fact that when I pull up to the bench each time I can't remember what I did the last time I was there nor what I was planning on doing next. Not to mention trying to do something unusual and saying to myself,"Man, I wish I had such and such tool to do this". Only to find out weeks latter that I had that exact tool on my bench all along. Just lovely.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Subhuman1 on Sunday, April 20, 2014 1:21 PM

The worst part of becoming and "older" modeler, is they keep making the parts smaller and smaller! I blame the metric system. I am sure, when I had to walk up hill both ways to school. the parts in a kit where much larger in any given scale.

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Posted by fox on Sunday, April 20, 2014 5:24 PM

The parts weren't larger, your fingers were smaller. Wink Did you have shoes and sox when you walked uphill both ways to school? I didn't. That's why I have flat feet now. Big Smile

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Posted by waynec on Sunday, April 20, 2014 7:13 PM

armornut

I've noticed that as a young modelerni couldn't get enough models, tools and such, now 30yrs later I have more kits than I know what to do with, more tools than hands to use them, and even though I'm currently a student time seems to be at a premium. I think that the early onset of GOMS. Thanks for the foresight ya old grumps LOL.

i'll reply to you but it applies to all of us. i have enough tools to literally equip 3 modelers. if  life span was counted in kits i'm good for another 200 years just with the kits in the bunker  i really want to build. oh and since at least 50 are ships add another 50 years. not counting the wood ships and the 230 in the garage.

i am 62. i have found my detail painting skills have improved. i can't use an optivisor or too lazy to work with it long enough but, as my eyeballs are VERY close to the model i wear safety glasses so i don't literally stab myself in the eye with an xacto. my tolerance for mistakes and dropped parts has increased with my confidence. usually i am figuring out how to make one as i creak down on my knees to search for the part. i take good criticism so much better. i do know after a long modeling session i shouldn't drive for an hour. really bad when you use closed captioning on the tv and can't see or hear for an hour or so.

all in all these are worth the satisfaction and serenity i get building. and the research and swapping techniques and lies over breakfast or club meetings just gets better.

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
Ничто не Забыто  (Nothing is Forgotten)

 

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Posted by Tarasdad on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 6:57 PM

And another one for the list:

  • Progress is variable. Some days there's a lot, some days there's not.
  • Case in point, yesterday I managed to get a whole 2 parts put on the Revell Strike Eagle I'm working on. Specifically I managed to glue 2 afterburner nozzle actuators in place. That makes a grand total of 5 out of 30 in place now.

That reminds me:

  • Teeny parts, arthritic hands and old eyes make for interesting times. In the Chinese proverb way.

Back to the Optivisor, tweezers and really bright work light I go....Stick out tongue

Tarasdad

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:53 AM

It is also fingers with me.  Although my vision is degrading, I find I can always buy vision aids, like powerful reading glasses, magnifiers,and better lamps, I do have arthritis in my hands that give me less manual dexterity than I used to have.

I had started building larger scale models, as it seemed easier.  But I quickly became overwhelmed with models with no more room to display them!  I also build a lot of ship models which take a lot of display space.

I kept remembering that old saying about "use it or lose it," and decided that avoiding the small scale stuff may not be the answer. I have started working on my smaller scale models now.  I figure that may delay the degradation.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by ACESES5 on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:27 PM

You know Don your right since I had my two heart attacks in January and Feburary and quit smoking I feel different inside. Now I find out I need to have a pacemaker and defibrilator inplanted, will this make this old body go faster? Maby I can assemble a kit faster?

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Posted by armornut on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:25 PM

Hey waynec, try putting a pencil eraser on the pointy end of your xacto, keep the optivisor down for good measure, and remember shave away from you, might keep ya from carving an extra wrinkle someplace ya can't explain without eye rolls from others. Also them parts that jump off the table... ya don't need them trust me if ya can't see it on the floor you'll never see it on the model save your knees for better things like bellyrubbing the pooch or smelling flowers( so lng as its from this side of the dirt), and don't panic about that huge stash, with modern medicine, obamacare and preservatives we'll all out live our stashes. Please understand all of above post is in fun, ya gave me a chuckle and hopefully I returned the favor.

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Thursday, April 24, 2014 10:08 AM

Hello :

   I have one of those " Ticker Trainers " If you don't mind a lump in your chest ,you'll do fine .It is only supposed to go off or pace if you need it . Otherwise it just sits there from the time you get it till you need it . It won't make you go faster , BUT , it will remind you of your mortality .Start getting those kits built my friend !

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Posted by ACESES5 on Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:30 PM

Amen to you tankbuilder I know of some who has just a defib he told me when it hits him hard he sure fells good afterwerds mabe all us old farts on here could use a good jolt of electrisaty once a month hahahahah    ACESES5

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