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Another Airplane misidentified this time by a noted author
Posted by Gordon D. King on Monday, February 8, 2016 8:17 PM

I just received a copy of "Kennedy's Last Days" by Bill O'Reilly. He wrote a small piece about Joe Kennedy who was killed while flying a mission in World War 2.

He included a photograph of a B-24, the type of bomber Kennedy was flying. In the caption he calls it a B-29 Liberator. Doesn't anyone check their facts anymore?

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Posted by wolfhammer1 on Monday, February 8, 2016 8:21 PM

B-24, B-29, very similar shape final number, only 5 off, close enough for government work, right?  ;-)

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Posted by mississippivol on Monday, February 8, 2016 8:23 PM
Not very closely it seems.
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Posted by waynec on Monday, February 8, 2016 9:47 PM

it's closer than the M-38 crossing the Meuse in '44 and the M-578 ARV in the desert in '42. Both are in PATTON'S BEST.

I thought they were open cockpit B-17s.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, February 8, 2016 10:02 PM

Well it seems these guys attend a couple of meetings with the writing staff, explain their direction, and leave.

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Posted by templar1099 on Tuesday, February 9, 2016 4:34 AM

It's Bill O'Reilly.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, February 9, 2016 8:58 AM

I don't consider 24 and 29 similar in shape at all- one almost a high-wing, one a mid-wing, one single tail, one double tail, 24 has almost flat sides, 29 has circular cross section.  But, I suspect no one was looking at pictures anyway.  More likely to me it could be a typo and just not caught.  That might be easy to miss for an English major proof reader.

In fact, it seems more and more publishers are cutting back on proof reading, depending on author to proof his own work, a big mistake.  This is really evident in the spelling and grammar in magazines.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:15 AM

And newspapers - especially local newspapers.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:42 AM

waynec

................

I thought they were open cockpit B-17s.

 

I seem to recall an Air Classic magazine from 20 plus years ago mentioning open cockpit B-17s.............Hmm

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Posted by murph on Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:59 AM

Sprue-ce Goose
waynec

................

I thought they were open cockpit B-17s.

 

I seem to recall an Air Classic magazine from 20 plus years ago mentioning open cockpit B-17s.............Hmm

 

Not to hijacjk the thread but, Project Aphrodite

https://www.google.ca/search?q=b-17+project+aphrodite&biw=1472&bih=743&tbm=isch&imgil=Rx1GCPbc5NsSEM%253A%253BM25dL2L291366M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Ffly.historicwings.com%25252F2012%25252F08%25252Foperation-aphrodite%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=Rx1GCPbc5NsSEM%253A%252CM25dL2L291366M%252C_&dpr=1.3&usg=__jgqfAABNoguSucnhuUfIrVRJFmE%3D&ved=0ahUKEwid0LuOhuvKAhWlsIMKHe5WCnEQyjcIKg&ei=iQy6Vt3nJaXhjgTuramIBw#imgrc=Rx1GCPbc5NsSEM%3A&usg=__jgqfAABNoguSucnhuUfIrVRJFmE%3D

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Posted by murph on Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:00 AM

Sprue-ce Goose
waynec

................

I thought they were open cockpit B-17s.

 

I seem to recall an Air Classic magazine from 20 plus years ago mentioning open cockpit B-17s............

 

Not to hijack the thread, but Operation Aprodite had well used B-17's with the rear cockpit deck cut down and faired over and an open cockpit

Click this hyperlink.  It's a legit link.  It'll even show a few photos from the Google photo archive.  Some of the photos displayed are the same as those in Roger Freeman's The Mighty Eighth

https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=b-17+project+aphrodite

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:25 PM

Don Stauffer

I don't consider 24 and 29 similar in shape at all- one almost a high-wing, one a mid-wing, one single tail, one double tail, 24 has almost flat sides, 29 has circular cross section.  But, I suspect no one was looking at pictures anyway.  More likely to me it could be a typo and just not caught.  That might be easy to miss for an English major proof reader.

In fact, it seems more and more publishers are cutting back on proof reading, depending on author to proof his own work, a big mistake.  This is really evident in the spelling and grammar in magazines.

 

that's what I think he meant the 4 and the 9 being similar in shape2 cents

 

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, March 1, 2016 1:42 PM

Hmmm;

     It is kind of funny in a way .How much vision does one need to spot the ugly nose of a fully armed B-24 ? The 29 is as smooth as my late daddy's cigars ( before he lit them of course ) . Then there's the cross section and wing placement . Oiy Vay ! !   Tanker - Builder P.S. Don't forget the engine nacelle shape either !

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Posted by NucMedTech on Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:17 PM

Maybe they didn't  notice that auto - correct  was on, lol. Happens to me all the time. Wink

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Posted by jtilley on Sunday, March 6, 2016 6:04 PM

Same thing happens to ships. I remember the dust jacket of Gordon Prang's At Dawn We Slept, which is about Pearl Harbor. The jacket featured a red rising sun superimposed on the black silhouette of a battleship. I couldn't identify the specific ship, but one thing was obvious: it was British.

I know from personal experience that the process of publication can produce  foul relations between author and book designer. By the time the publisher got through with my book on the Revolutionary War I was ready to kill the designer - right after I killed the copy editor.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:30 AM

In fact :

    During discussion about a cover for a defunct book , I got in a verbal fight with the designer . He was of the opinion that what difference did it make if the cover ship was ours or theirs . I mean shoot , I wanted a Fletcher Not a " Z " class from Germany !  T.B.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:47 AM

murph
 
Sprue-ce Goose
waynec

................

I thought they were open cockpit B-17s.

 

I seem to recall an Air Classic magazine from 20 plus years ago mentioning open cockpit B-17s............

 

 

 

Not to hijack the thread, but Operation Aprodite had well used B-17's with the rear cockpit deck cut down and faired over and an open cockpit

Click this hyperlink.  It's a legit link.  It'll even show a few photos from the Google photo archive.  Some of the photos displayed are the same as those in Roger Freeman's The Mighty Eighth

https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=b-17+project+aphrodite

Mike

 

Aphrodite used both B-17's and B-24's. Kennedy was in a B-24 when he was killed.

I have lost track of how manny books mis-identify German tanks, the most favorite of course being Pz IV labelle as Tigers.

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Posted by Hunter on Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:00 PM

Bish
I have lost track of how manny books mis-identify German tanks, the most favorite of course being Pz IV labelle as Tigers.

If these individuals do not know the difference between a Pz and a Tiger they shouldn't be writing books.

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Posted by Ghostrider114 on Sunday, March 20, 2016 7:22 PM

I suspect the 24/29 thing was a typo, that's just one character, it's not like they missed on the name too.  I saw a magazine article once that mentioned those "B-52s" that launched from the deck of the Hornet during the Doolittle raid.

 

Come to think of it, a few months back, World of Warships ran an article about the Essex-class USS Lexington that used a picture of the original Lexington, now that's a major error.

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Posted by qmiester on Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:56 AM
I can remember when a lot of authors (and tv newsmen) thought there were only two types of aircraft flying - 707s and Piper Cubs (and apparently the Cubs were knocking the 707s out of the air like flies)
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