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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, July 15, 2019 10:52 AM

"From Here To Eternity"- double trouble Deborah Kerr and Donna Reed.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 15, 2019 11:04 AM

Oh yeah, I really need to go back and rewatch those classics again...Heart

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, July 15, 2019 12:00 PM

I think I'll pass on Emmerich's "Midway".  I may watch it, once it passes to broadcast.  I just expect there to be too much dramaticization added, for my taste.

And yeah, his "Godzilla" was God-awful.  I wanted to get up and walk out of the theater, but I thought of what Geddy Lee once said-"Ten bucks is ten bucks, eh."  I enjoyed some of the character actors, including Clyde Kusatsu, and even the principals did the best they could with the dreck they were given.  But it's just a bad, bad movie, not worthy to be included in discussions of Godzilla.

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Posted by Aggieman on Monday, July 15, 2019 10:04 PM

Life long Godzilla fan speaking here ... I kid you not, there is a closeup shot of the lizard that I seriously thought looked strikingly like Jay Leno. That movie was not a Godzilla flick; it was a giant lizard movie with a bit of Aliens thrown in at the end.

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Posted by keavdog on Monday, July 15, 2019 11:02 PM

I love your guys Godzilla passion.   

After GMs comment on the battle of Britain flick I did some IMDb'ing and the trivia section is pretty cool.  GM is spot on.  One note said after all the aircraft acquisitions the studio was the 35th largest airforce in the world and Adolf Galland was the technical advisor!  Great movie.  Sorry for the tangent but it's a great read:  

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0064072/trivia

 

Thanks,

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, July 15, 2019 11:47 PM

Thanks.

A couple of comments.

I had a good friend Who bought six of the 109s from the Spanish AF. Never came to much, I think he traded them for a super car.

I had a good friend at work who was a pilot in 303. His daughter is a close 

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Tuesday, July 16, 2019 8:16 AM
Just watched the original, "A Bridge Too Far" again this weekend. This is a really great WWII movie, focusing on the REAL people involved, instead of those "based on actual events" characters. Only bad thing were the TERRIBLE "Tiger" tanks - yuck!

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Tuesday, July 16, 2019 8:17 AM
Gotta agree there! They could film Kate Beckinsale reading the phone book for two hours, and they'd get my ticket money for sure!

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Posted by GreySnake on Tuesday, July 16, 2019 10:06 AM

Trailer didn’t do much for me. The CGI looked too glossy and then saw who was directing it that explains it. This is one I’ll wait for reviews to come out before committing to watching. I actually hope it turns out to be good as there’s not many movies coming out anymore that I care for.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 16, 2019 11:22 AM

Armor, in Bridge Too Far, I did not mind the Leopards as panzers. I think it was supposed to be a Panther rather than a Tiger. It sure beat almost every previous war movies Panzer, except for Kelly’s Heroes Tiger and Is Paris Burning‘s? Panther. 

GS, in the previews for both Midway & Dauntless, the CGI looks too glossy. I hope that they take care of that for the actual movie. 

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, July 16, 2019 11:33 AM

I'll probably go and see it, but might wait till it hits the premium channels.

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, July 16, 2019 11:42 AM

Aggieman

Life long Godzilla fan speaking here ... I kid you not, there is a closeup shot of the lizard that I seriously thought looked strikingly like Jay Leno. That movie was not a Godzilla flick; it was a giant lizard movie with a bit of Aliens thrown in at the end.

And "Jurassic Park"-the juvenile Godzillas were like raptors.

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, July 16, 2019 11:46 AM

keavdog

I love your guys Godzilla passion.   

After GMs comment on the battle of Britain flick I did some IMDb'ing and the trivia section is pretty cool.  GM is spot on.  One note said after all the aircraft acquisitions the studio was the 35th largest airforce in the world and Adolf Galland was the technical advisor!  Great movie.  Sorry for the tangent but it's a great read:  

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0064072/trivia 

There are some mistranslations in the subtitles, too.  Or maybe they're better described as typos.

But it's still an enjoyable movie, a good example of historical drama.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, July 16, 2019 11:47 AM

Wasn't the Tiger in Kelly's Heroes a T-34 in disguise? Some real Shermans there.

If you ever saw Cross of Iron, there are a bunch of T-34/85s running around.

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, July 16, 2019 11:52 AM

GMorrison

Wasn't the Tiger in Kelly's Heroes a T-34 in disguise? Some real Shermans there.

If you ever saw Cross of Iron, there are a bunch of T-34/85s running around.

 
Yes, they were converted previously by Yugoslav army mechanics for another movie.  The Shermans were still on the roster in the Yugoslav army at the time, too.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 16, 2019 12:01 PM

the Baron

 

 
Aggieman

Life long Godzilla fan speaking here ... I kid you not, there is a closeup shot of the lizard that I seriously thought looked strikingly like Jay Leno. That movie was not a Godzilla flick; it was a giant lizard movie with a bit of Aliens thrown in at the end.

 

 

And "Jurassic Park"-the juvenile Godzillas were like raptors.

 

That is one of the main things I remember from the movie, it was more a 'Jurassic Park' wantabe than 'Godzilla'. 

 

That and Jean Reno's Elvis impersonation... Indifferent

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 16, 2019 12:42 PM

Oh come on now, Jean Reno is always enjoyable in a movie.... 

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 6:16 AM
Nine year old me liked Emmerichs Godzilla movie.I haven’t watched at again as I’m sure I’d hate it.
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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 10:45 AM

stikpusher

Oh come on now, Jean Reno is always enjoyable in a movie.... 

 

Actually I've only seen a few of Reno's movies but the ones I've seen he was a big positive. I liked his Elvis impersonation, a little weird but it was one of the best things in the movie. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GAF on Friday, September 13, 2019 6:50 AM

The 2nd trailer for the movie is out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_84EimN2HCg

The CGI is strong in this one!

Gary

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 13, 2019 12:44 PM

Veterans Day, a fitting weekend for this movie to be released.

 

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Posted by scottrc on Friday, September 13, 2019 2:04 PM

I'm about to be brutal about my thought of this movie and that second trailer just confirmed that I will not be paying money to see it.  I'll just play a few rounds of World of Warships on my big TV.  Why pay money to see a 2 hr video game with the story line from Peal Harbor.

The story probably goes like this,

Boy enters manhood with flashbacks of his abusive father

Boy meets girl

Boy sleeps with girl while Pearl Harbor gets bombed

Boy bombs Tokyo

Girl is pregnant

Boy comes home wounded

Baby somehow is now 3 yrs old

Boy flies the SBD like its an X-Wing fighter and becomes an ace shooting down all the Zeros that attacked him

Boy doesn't get along with the cigar chomping admiral who swears a lot and seems to prove that the Admiral cannot make any decisions without him

Boy screams and swears a lot

Boy bombs big Japanese carrier

Boy comes home a hero

Baby is not his

It was his best friends who took a bullet for him from a German sniper

Because boy and best friend also fought in the battle of Britian and at Dunkirk, in that order

I want to write for Hollywood, where all I need to do is write 25 minutes worth of dialog so that the rest of the 95 mintues can be reserved for special effect explosions, fighting, swearing, and in bed hanky panky.

At least this time the SBDs are the correct type and not AT6s, and the CG artists replicated Yorktown Class carriers instead using of a digitized picture of a modernized Esssex class.

Woody Harrelson as Chester Nimitz sounds about as bad as Alec Baldwin playing Doolittle.  

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Posted by jc98125 on Friday, September 13, 2019 2:41 PM

For those who haven't seen it yet, there is an excellent youtube video covering the battle  from a japanese perspective. Covers strategy and tactics, with some map animation:

The Battle of Midway 1942: Told from the Japanese Perspective

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8_vO5zrjo

It's quite interesting, about 40 minutes long. Unfortunately this is part 1 of 2, and part 2 hasn't been finished yet.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, September 14, 2019 1:36 PM

scottrc

I'm about to be brutal about my thought of this movie and that second trailer just confirmed that I will not be paying money to see it.  I'll just play a few rounds of World of Warships on my big TV.  Why pay money to see a 2 hr video game with the story line from Peal Harbor.

The story probably goes like this,

Boy enters manhood with flashbacks of his abusive father

Boy meets girl

Boy sleeps with girl while Pearl Harbor gets bombed

Boy bombs Tokyo

Girl is pregnant

Boy comes home wounded

Baby somehow is now 3 yrs old

Boy flies the SBD like its an X-Wing fighter and becomes an ace shooting down all the Zeros that attacked him

Boy doesn't get along with the cigar chomping admiral who swears a lot and seems to prove that the Admiral cannot make any decisions without him

Boy screams and swears a lot

Boy bombs big Japanese carrier

Boy comes home a hero

Baby is not his

It was his best friends who took a bullet for him from a German sniper

Because boy and best friend also fought in the battle of Britian and at Dunkirk, in that order

I want to write for Hollywood, where all I need to do is write 25 minutes worth of dialog so that the rest of the 95 mintues can be reserved for special effect explosions, fighting, swearing, and in bed hanky panky.

At least this time the SBDs are the correct type and not AT6s, and the CG artists replicated Yorktown Class carriers instead using of a digitized picture of a modernized Esssex class.

Woody Harrelson as Chester Nimitz sounds about as bad as Alec Baldwin playing Doolittle.  

 

I don’t know... having just re read The Big E, I recognize many snippets shown in the previews. It looks like they will be telling the story from the perspective of certain Enterprise aviators, along with that of the Hawaii Intel and Midway base. Yeah, a lot of the CGI looks over the top and more like video games, but hey, it’s not like here is much of the actual ships and planes left in reality. 

Personally I thought Bruce Willis would have been a much better choice to play Doolittle. He bears something of a resemblance to Jimmy Doolittle. I’m hopeful that this will not be the Michael Bay Pearl Harbor goat rope in the way that the Midway story is told. And just maybe these actors can pull off their roles. 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Real G on Saturday, September 14, 2019 2:47 PM

Gamera

 

 
stikpusher

Oh come on now, Jean Reno is always enjoyable in a movie.... 

 

 

 

Actually I've only seen a few of Reno's movies but the ones I've seen he was a big positive. I liked his Elvis impersonation, a little weird but it was one of the best things in the movie. 

 

”The Professional” and “Wasabi”!

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Posted by Real G on Saturday, September 14, 2019 4:47 PM

Real G

 

 
Gamera

 

 
stikpusher

Oh come on now, Jean Reno is always enjoyable in a movie.... 

 

 

 

Actually I've only seen a few of Reno's movies but the ones I've seen he was a big positive. I liked his Elvis impersonation, a little weird but it was one of the best things in the movie. 

 

 

 

”The Professional” and “Wasabi”!

 

Both waaay better than “Pearl Harbor”.

But I did enjoy “Midway” back in 1976.  I also watched “Baa Baa Black Sheep” on TV.  I didn’t think it was quality proramming, but I tuned in every week.  I wonder if they did a reboot, would they have an enemy pilot named “Riceball”?

”Having twubble Boy-ing-ton?”

Ah a different time.  Despite being a person of Japanese descent, I found the Hollywood cartoon caricatures hilarious.  My favorite was the mini sub skipper in “Gilligan’s Island” - he was a dead ringer for my neighbor!

I just watched the current Midway trailer, and ugh the kinematics of the CGI is awful. The Zeros streaking down the street looked like it belonged in the John Belushi film “1941”.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 20, 2019 11:13 AM

G I hear you about the CGI visuals of the aircraft. The gamer boys seem to be running that side of the house. 

But looking at the cast, I am hopeful about the script writing, as most of the names listed are actual historical charecters from the battle. It sure does look to be that most of the avaitors are from the Enterprise. And the inclusion of Cdr Brockman of USS Nautilus is a pleasant surprise.

This is from the Wiki page on the movie.

 

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Posted by GAF on Friday, September 20, 2019 1:37 PM

Strange, isn't it, that the commander of the entire US task force (Admiral Fletcher) is not listed?

Gary

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 20, 2019 2:46 PM

GAF

Strange, isn't it, that the commander of the entire US task force (Admiral Fletcher) is not listed?

Gary

 

None of the USS Yorktown personalities are listed by name: aviators, ship’s crew, or Fletcher‘s staff. 

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by scottrc on Friday, September 20, 2019 4:06 PM

stikpusher

G I hear you about the CGI visuals of the aircraft. The gamer boys seem to be running that side of the house. 

But looking at the cast, I am hopeful about the script writing, as most of the names listed are actual historical charecters from the battle. It sure does look to be that most of the avaitors are from the Enterprise. And the inclusion of Cdr Brockman of USS Nautilus is a pleasant surprise.

This is from the Wiki page on the movie.

 

 I will agree with you in that this movie will depend a lot on the script and directing. That is a lot of talent and interesting characters.  If the script and directing is poor, then this could be a real train wreck.  

I also would like to know why Frank Fletcher is missing from the list.  

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