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Changing Stuff- Like - do they really have to ?
Posted by tankerbuilder on Saturday, June 27, 2015 10:33 AM

HI:

      Well , according to Tim , they are going to be making some changes here . I would ask you , Tim , to please consider what you do .The changes over at Scale Auto I find totally unnerving . White backgrounds and different presentation of thread titles etc . I wonder , do we really need that ?

       I come here for the love of models , the camaraderie and even with something in the Dungeon I still love this web sight ! Please exercise caution  , Please ?

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, June 27, 2015 12:20 PM

Hello!

I would also ask not to change it - the last change was like five years ago? - and I still think the former layout was better. But now I got used to this one and changing it will cost me unnecessary work to get used to it. Like they say - If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Thanks in advance and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by fox on Saturday, June 27, 2015 1:12 PM

Tim, as Pawel said above, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"!  It took this computer illiterate old fart with a very old laptop a long time to figure out this one and now it's going to happen again? PLEASE, DON'T DO IT.  What's left of my brain can't take another jolt like that.

Respectfully,

Jim  Sad

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, June 27, 2015 1:17 PM

I didn't read Kidwell's announcement as a poll. And personally I HATE the green color. I hope that is changed.

It's known from experience that green leads people to feel institutionalized.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, June 27, 2015 1:22 PM

Why fix something that works?

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Posted by castelnuovo on Saturday, June 27, 2015 2:49 PM

I don't remember us, as contributing members to this forum, being asked do we want anything to be changed, what would we like to see etc

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Saturday, June 27, 2015 3:03 PM

Based upon my experience with computers over the years, I'm making the presumption that FSM  might have the choice of either keeping the current software version or updating.

OTOH, depending on the FSM forum server's current software / hardware configuration and forum software license, they may not have the option to avoid installing a new forum version.

If the Beta version of the new forum software has been working well enough on a spare FSM server, then I have no reason to fear an upgrade.

Just my opinion.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Saturday, June 27, 2015 3:24 PM

HmmWorst Case Scenario:

Everybody hates the new look and skee-daddles on over to SPAM. Whistling

.

No worries ! Big SmileYes

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, June 27, 2015 5:07 PM

Oh but somehow we always come back, like a dog at the back door.

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Saturday, June 27, 2015 5:16 PM

What we want to see changed (and almost every comment I've seen about it indicates we ALL want it changed) is what Tim says ain't gonna be changed - the pop-ups. Ain't that a hoot. If it's the marketing department's decision about this, then Kalmbach needs to fire that marketing department/company. Any entity that ignores their customers' requests will not last long.

I agree with the above statements - I see nothing that needs to be changed, other than eliminating those frustrating pop-ups whenever we log on.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Saturday, June 27, 2015 7:08 PM

GMorrison

Oh but somehow we always come back, like a dog at the back door.

I hope they lay out a fresh layer of news paper for us...................just in case............Whistling

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Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, June 27, 2015 7:20 PM

Keep in mind that the last major update was shortly after Windows 7 was released. Within the next few months, we will be up to Windows 10 (though W.9 has been sidestepped). 5 years is a long time in the PC world.

Many of us will be familiar with the Compatibility View issue which has afflicted at least some of the members posting on this thread. If a forum software upgrade fixes this seamlessly, then by all means go for it.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:14 AM

GMorrison

Oh but somehow we always come back, like a dog at the back door.

Food?

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:17 AM

Sprue-ce Goose

HmmWorst Case Scenario:

Everybody hates the new look and skee-daddles on over to SPAM. Whistling

.

No worries ! Big SmileYes

Yes, there are alternatives...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:23 AM

It can't be any worse than Windows 8 or *cough, cough* Windows 10....

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:25 AM

At least they're removing that annoying green bar at the bottom of the page.

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Posted by ajlafleche on Sunday, June 28, 2015 9:31 AM

It's the golden rule in action. Who has the gold makes the rules.

Seriously, this is Kalmbach's website. They maintain it to make money, that what a business does. Marketing, who may be saying put in pop ups shows they pay for themselves. People posting here who don't like the changes are free to move on to another site or put up the money and time to develop their own site.

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Posted by MJames70 on Sunday, June 28, 2015 11:01 AM

As some have said, there may be software/licensing issues behind the scenes, besides just marketing desires for something new. I'd rather not see this turn into another Hyperscale, with its to the death defenders of its obsolescence.

And before anyone says don't go there if you don't like it - I don't. Hyperscale does not meet my needs/expectations, so I don't use it. If you love it, well good for you. There are enough model forums out there; I'm sure one meets your needs.

Meanwhile, it may be verboten to discuss here, but on some other websites the rumor mill is going strongly that FSM editor in chief Matt Usher is out, so may be more changes on the way.

The mag does itself does not seem to be doing very well, repeating the same articles endlessly, and I have noticed a significant reduction in advertising the last couple years. There are hardly any big ads at all now. Before you all say how great that is, the ad $$$s keep the mag coming. Which is not good considering the hobby is making more products than ever.

You'd think all these companies would be eager to tell everyone  about their stuff, but for whatever reason, they aren't in FSM. I'd like to see the mag packed with articles and ads, and it is not happening right now.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, June 28, 2015 11:05 AM

stikpusher

Sprue-ce Goose

HmmWorst Case Scenario:

Everybody hates the new look and skee-daddles on over to SPAM. Whistling

.

No worries ! Big SmileYes

Yes, there are alternatives...

But, that alternative is green .................and won't let us borrow his gold plated AKsWhistling

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, June 28, 2015 11:08 AM

Looks like Saddam was into the falafels again...

Modeling is an excuse to buy books

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, June 28, 2015 11:14 AM

MJames70

.................

The mag does itself does not seem to be doing very well, repeating the same articles endlessly, and I have noticed a significant reduction in advertising the last couple years. ..................

That's not good.

Even if the articles repeat basic techniques, I thought the article quality had improved recently over past years and- at the risk of raising a few hackles-  would like to commend the current staff for it. 

I had presumed the reason for the type of articles was based upon a magazine business model geared towards the neophyte builder who may be strapped for cash while keeping the price at roughly half the UK hobby magazine price. 

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Maybe FSM needs to check how many premium priced  $12 - $15 slick cover hobby magazines are sold every month and re-evaluate it's business model.Hmm

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, June 28, 2015 11:15 AM

GMorrison

Looks like Saddam was into the falafels again...

LOL....................
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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, June 28, 2015 11:20 AM

I see a number of things that don't work right in the forum now.  Fixing those is worth something, and if I have to put up with learning a few new things it may be worth it if the problems are fixed.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Sunday, June 28, 2015 12:43 PM

Personnally, I think too many people are panicking over nothing. We all go through changes in our lives - be it at home or work. It's part of life. Besides, change is good. Let them do the upgrade and go from there. I don't see the harm.  Like the old REO Speedwagon song goes:

Roll with the Changes.....

I'd like to see FSM magazine subscription price be reduced to $20 (or even $23) for 12 issues a year, not $30 for 10 issues.

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Sunday, June 28, 2015 12:50 PM

We old geezers don't mind repeated articles and topics, because our memories are rather short...

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:23 PM

Hello!

I'm not panicking - I just don't want to learn new ways of doing exactly the same things. I would be glad to invest that time in building. So I don't mind fixes, but I don't want the whole model to change. The magazine staff will do what they need to do anyhow, but let's let them know how we feel about it. So please FSM - if it ain't broke, don't fix it! Thanks in advance and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by jtilley on Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:36 PM

Personally, I'd welcome two changes. First (this is pretty trivial), I'd like to see the description of the "IPMS Nationals" edited so it no longer announces the event that ended ten months ago. Second, and more important, I'd like to see the process of posting photos get easier. It would be great if I could click once on an image (either on the Web or in Photoshop Elements Organizer), click once on my Forum post, and see the picture appear. As I understand it, though, that isn't financially practicable.

I'd like to offer one other suggestion. We've been informed, courteously, that the changes are coming, and we've been told that they're going to be minor. And they're going into effect in August. Wouldn't it make more sense to wait and see what the changes are, than to spend the next six weeks or so griping about what they might be?

This thread has been up for a little more than a day, and it's already got 26 posts. At this rate, I hate to think what it will look like by August 3.

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:49 PM

Worst change I ever made was switch from a PC to an iMac.  Still don't understand the dang thing!

Computer, did we bring batteries?.....Computer?

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, June 28, 2015 2:41 PM

Cadet Chuck

Worst change I ever made was switch from a PC to an iMac.  Still don't understand the dang thing!

A local Apple User Group may be in your area.
You can check on this website:
They may be able to provide some helpful tips on understanding how to use your computer more effectively.
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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, June 28, 2015 2:44 PM
As for the posts in this thread, all I can tell ya is this:
Falafels and Apples have already been mentioned.
If more food groups are added, then perhaps this thread will really be cookin' Whistling
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