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WWII German Tank Found In German Man's Basement

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WWII German Tank Found In German Man's Basement
Posted by Devil Dawg on Tuesday, July 7, 2015 8:56 AM

The newspaper article calls it a "Panther", but it looks as though it's maybe a Tiger II to me. I'm am definitely not a tank expert, though. Anybody know what version of tank this is? And how about finding a tank in someone's basement? Cool!!

 http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/07/06/found-in-78-year-old-cellar-wwii-tank/ 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Tuesday, July 7, 2015 10:41 AM

Old news for I knew about it in another forum site. Cool yet illegal according to German laws. The big question is how big is this villa basement was it to keep both stored for so long?

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Tuesday, July 7, 2015 12:06 PM
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Posted by Archangel Shooter on Tuesday, July 7, 2015 9:19 PM

A very nice 1:1 Panther and it looks in pretty good shape too.

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Posted by mississippivol on Tuesday, July 7, 2015 9:22 PM

Was it properly weathered?

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Tuesday, July 7, 2015 9:36 PM

So?  I have two tanks in my basement, each holds 50 gallons of water and keeps it hot.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, July 7, 2015 10:24 PM

Never-mind about whether or not it was properly weathered.

Did it have a big  Confederate Battle Flag on the turret roof?Whistling

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 10:19 AM

He did  good job cleaning it up since the end of WW2 though.... LOL!

Another crazy thought that they were stored in a bunker prior becoming a villa.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 2:36 PM

According to the bbc he drove it around town during the winter, back in the '80s.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 2:38 PM

Maybe the German gov't said it was hidden because they have so many of 'em being driven on the streets in Germany..............hard to pick out just one Panther V in so many thousands of Panther V sWink

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 3:43 PM

So since I found the same information, different text from two sources:

This particular tank was built after the war at the factory, under the supervision of the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers, for performance evaluation. There were others as well. After it served it's purpose in England, it was sent to a junk yard. The owner bought it there in 1977 and brought it to Germany, where he kept it in a storage garage.

It's been confiscated because of course he couldn't produce the necessary "PAPERS!"

My own guess something to do with taxes.

It'd appear that about two dozen Panthers, plus some Hunters are still around, plus a couple of carcasses, turrets etc.

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Posted by CN Spots on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 4:09 PM

Poor guy was just one locomotive away from a post apocalyptic tank wagon.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 4:18 PM

GMorrison

So since I found the same information, different text from two sources:

This particular tank was built after the war at the factory, under the supervision of the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers, for performance evaluation. There were others as well. .......................

.......and you just reminded me of a 1946 ? British movie I saw many decades ago on the local tele....................
.................film footage of Horsa gliders being towed aloft and German Panther tanks- real German Panther tanks- attacking British paratroopers.......................Surprise
I always wondered why the movie had access to so many fully functioning Panther tanksHmm
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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 4:19 PM

CN Spots

Poor guy was just one locomotive away from a post apocalyptic tank wagon.

LOL................
....and then the German gov't steam punked him Whistling
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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 4:24 PM

It never could run. It had a Lucas electrical system...

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 4:25 PM

GMorrison

It never could run. It had a Lucas electrical system...

LOL...............

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Posted by CodyJ on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 6:02 PM

Neighbors see the tank and be like "Oh Crap!  Its happening again!"

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 6:54 PM

So, it really is a Panther? I thought Panthers were designed well after WWII ended.

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Posted by Axeman on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:01 PM

Its a Panther Pzkfw V,since you're Devil Dawg i'm guessing all cats look alike? maybe you're thinking of the Leopard? Cool

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:05 PM

Uhhhh, no. As I mentioned in the initial post, I am in no way a tank expert. I do know that the German word for Panther is Panzer, and that's about as far my knowledge of German tanks go, other than Tiger tanks were used quite a bit in WWII.

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Posted by Axeman on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 8:14 PM

Just kidding Devil Dawg,just kidding Beer

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 8:25 PM

I know. ToastPropeller

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 9:47 PM

The German word for Panther is not panzer. The German word for tank, before that coat of mail; is panzer.

The German word for panther is panther.

The German word for tiger is tiger, and the German phrase for Bengal Tiger is Konigstiger, which does not mean King Tiger.

The Panther was a midwar design based on the encounter with the Russian T-34, the best medium tank in 1942. As usual, the Germans took something very simple, easy to build and operate, and created something big, complicated, difficult to build and requiring trained crews.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, July 8, 2015 9:52 PM

GMorrison

........... As usual, the Germans took something very simple, easy to build and operate, and created something big, complicated, difficult to build and requiring trained crews.

LOL..........
Ya sure nailed that right ! 
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Posted by tankerbuilder on Friday, July 10, 2015 8:51 AM

But

    Look at the pictures agin guys !

It couldn;t go anywhere .It didn't have tracks on it ! The law is simple  .Pay a very big tax and you can have a de-militarized vehicle . I/E No Breech , no MG and certainly none of these funny shaped things that were called " Bullets " . Oh , and NONE of those objectional markings either !

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Posted by CodyJ on Saturday, July 11, 2015 4:04 AM

True about the "Konig".   Its bizarre how it works actually.  "Konig" literally translates to "King".  However the Deutsch Language does not refer to the Bengal Tiger as a "Bengal" Tigerlike we do.  Its Konigtiger.  Basically adding the Konig (King) differentiates the subject by its size or strength and applies it to a specific species.  Similar to how English refers to the "King Cobra".  We are applying this "King" name to a specific creature.   We don't mean its Royalty or King of Snakes.  We use King to mean Big, Large or powerful (get your mind out of the gutter.  I know some of you went there ;)   and separate it from the common cobra.

Lots think it means King Tiger literally but the Germans didn't mean it in that way.  They had a vision of a Bengal Tiger when they named the tank.  Which just happens to have "King" tacked on the front referring to a different type of Tiger.  The Bengal.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, July 11, 2015 5:09 AM

Any news on where it wound up...or is gonna wind up at?

                   

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Saturday, July 11, 2015 8:40 AM

I haven't been able to locate any recent news in the German language internet sites.

The info is all dated from the time of the initial story.

https://www.google.de/?gws_rd=ssl#q=panther+V+und+FLAK+88

Probably the best method would be to find out what district the tank was found and then occasionally check for on-line news for the area.

Per this news article, it must have been seized in schleswig-holstein

http://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/schleswig-holstein/Schweres-Geschuetz-Behoerden-ermitteln,munitionsfund124.html

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, July 11, 2015 11:43 AM

Heikendorf, which is down river from Kiel.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Saturday, July 11, 2015 1:09 PM

 danke schön

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