Just Thoughts

I actually like the sound of that idea. There are some mebers of this forum who have not jst been very influential on here but in the hobby as a whole. I know my own standards would not be anything like they are without the guys on here.

But, i can see the obvious drawback that others may well bring up. Who gets to choose, who gets upset because they don't agree with who is on it. I think the mods might just see it as having a possably bad effect on some people.

I like it, but i can imagine many others won't.

Everyone has their own way of doing builds in their own best of abilities. They may not be perfect but in their own eyes, it's good enough for themselves - not others to judge. So no on the idea.

That's why FSM has the Reader's Gallery.

Thank you for your comments.

Let me say this, what I am meaning is not something based soley on the percieved vision of perfection that is a model or model builder judged on their percieved skills.  I am talking of more a recognition of members both past and present who through actions were regarded as "the glue", god I hate that reference, for the forum.  I know this changes.  Some fall off for what ever reason.  But I am sure most of us could point to one or more members that would fall into a special category of the membership.  

Joe

There are members that are most helpful on here, either with suggestions for kits, tools, or other products, others who are more helpful for hints and tips for building, and others who are master builders, but really dont share any helpful posts in any catagory. As if to keep the techniques they use all to them selves or only to be revealed on some blog or magazine that they hawk, and not here among us common mortals. I can see the latter type getting offended if they are not recognized in what you suggest. And raising a stink about it.

ahhhhemmm,, Bring the good old post count back!! I wanna know! And I want stars and medals next to avatars of long standing members and folks who participate the most...Stupid forum change... This site's format is the most impersonal on the whole web...Rant off.

Being completely new here I have no say either way. With that, I think a "special avatar" for those members that contribute the most, or that are always helping other members with advise, tips and techniques. And one for those members that have been a main-stay to the forums with their length of time. Like I said, I'm new here just my opinion.

Avatar: For Length of time (5,10,15,20 years and so on)

Avatar: For Total involvement ( Post contribution and Response )

Avatar: For "Big Brother" ( Always helping and Giving Advise)

Nathan T

ahhhhemmm,, Bring the good old post count back!! I wanna know! And I want stars and medals next to avatars of long standing members and folks who participate the most...Stupid forum change... This site's format is the most impersonal on the whole web...Rant off.

 

Nathan T

ahhhhemmm,, Bring the good old post count back!! I wanna know! And I want stars and medals next to avatars of long standing members and folks who participate the most...Stupid forum change... This site's format is the most impersonal on the whole web...Rant off.

 

You know, I've been wanting to say pretty much the same thing for a long time, but was afraid to sound petty. But since Nathan opened the door I really miss the post count and stars.

I realise the post count is avail if one wants to look for it, but it's not the same.

I could go on as to why etc, but I won't.

It would require a willingness of one chosen but how about a " profile " say, quarterly or monthly.

Greg

 

You know, I've been wanting to say pretty much the same thing for a long time, but was afraid to sound petty. But since Nathan opened the door I really miss the post count and stars.

I realise the post count is avail if one wants to look for it, but it's not the same.

I could go on as to why etc, but I won't.

 

Because as the "Talking Heads" put it in song... "youre talking alot, but you're not saying anything"

or Simon and Garfunkel said it... "People talking without speaking,"

Certain folks here made oodles of posts to elevate their post count without actually contributing anything of substance to the forum. Either of help, or even to lighten the moment with some wit.

stikpusher

 

 

Greg

 

You know, I've been wanting to say pretty much the same thing for a long time, but was afraid to sound petty. But since Nathan opened the door I really miss the post count and stars.

I realise the post count is avail if one wants to look for it, but it's not the same.

I could go on as to why etc, but I won't.

 

 

 

 

Because as the "Talking Heads" put it in song... "youre talking alot, but you're not saying anything"

or Simon and Garfunkel said it... "People talking without speaking,"

Certain folks here made oodles of posts to elevate their post count without actually contributing anything of substance to the forum. Either of help, or even to lighten the moment with some wit.

 

Kinda like padding your posts totals. LOL!!

Hey Joe,

Side note: really enjoyed your youtube channel. Great vids.

Hunter I am glad you like it.  

Folks I am not trying to redo the forum.  What I am suggesting is just recognition for those that really do deserve it. 

Joe

stikpusher

 

 

Greg

 

You know, I've been wanting to say pretty much the same thing for a long time, but was afraid to sound petty. But since Nathan opened the door I really miss the post count and stars.

I realise the post count is avail if one wants to look for it, but it's not the same.

I could go on as to why etc, but I won't.

 

 

 

 

Because as the "Talking Heads" put it in song... "youre talking alot, but you're not saying anything"

or Simon and Garfunkel said it... "People talking without speaking,"

Certain folks here made oodles of posts to elevate their post count without actually contributing anything of substance to the forum. Either of help, or even to lighten the moment with some wit.

 

Yes.

But isn't that more the exception than the rule, Stik?

I find most folks here with lots of stars and post counts to be A-1 contributors.

I found the stars and stuff most helpful as a newbie (a newbie-newbie...now I'm a newbie with a few years tenure :) )u, gave me some idea of the tenure AND activity level of those I was getting to know. As it is now, IMO, showing only year joined and without digging for post counts, well, without getting into details, it can be the exact opposite situation of what you described.

At any rate, still a first class group of folks regardless of the forum changes that some like and some don't.

Hmmm, I appreciate the sentiment behind the idea, but think that it's not a good idea. I think that anything like that could possibly lead to fractious quibbling about who "deserves" it more than Modeler X and there's always the distinct possibility that some guys would get prideful about it, and that always gets ugly in the end. And don't forget: one guy may be helpful or "worthy" in the Armor forums, but a complete unknown in the Aircraft section or the Airbrush forums. That might offend some guys who may be prolific in one small category--ships, for instance--and then we could see guys leaving the forums out of spite or disappointment. All artists have fragile egos whether we will admit ot or not. 

I say let your work speak for itself and your blogs, forum posts, tips, etc. define you for what you are worth in the eyes of the forum. I feel like appointed "awards" can carry with them the faint taint of elitism, and really, we're all equal here, no one better or less valuable than the rest. 

Well put Doog

Greg

 

stikpusher

 

 

Greg

 

You know, I've been wanting to say pretty much the same thing for a long time, but was afraid to sound petty. But since Nathan opened the door I really miss the post count and stars.

I realise the post count is avail if one wants to look for it, but it's not the same.

I could go on as to why etc, but I won't.

 

 

 

 

Because as the "Talking Heads" put it in song... "youre talking alot, but you're not saying anything"

or Simon and Garfunkel said it... "People talking without speaking,"

Certain folks here made oodles of posts to elevate their post count without actually contributing anything of substance to the forum. Either of help, or even to lighten the moment with some wit.

 

 

 

 

Yes.

But isn't that more the exception than the rule, Stik?

I find most folks here with lots of stars and post counts to be A-1 contributors.

I found the stars and stuff most helpful as a newbie (a newbie-newbie...now I'm a newbie with a few years tenure :) )u, gave me some idea of the tenure AND activity level of those I was getting to know. As it is now, IMO, showing only year joined and without digging for post counts, well, without getting into details, it can be the exact opposite situation of what you described.

At any rate, still a first class group of folks regardless of the forum changes that some like and some don't.

 

 

You know, i can't make up my mind about post counts. I can think of several members who have joined in the last couple of years and have made a real impact almost from the off. I can think of others who have been here a long time but have a low post count, but i know can still be relied upon to help out. I think with any forum, you have to feel your way in and work out the lay of the land. Looking at post counts could lead you down the wrong path. It does not tell you how long the poster has been modelling before they joined, what experiance they have elsewhere or whether those posts were of any contribution.

So i think they have to be treated with caution.

Very valid point and will thought Bish. Maybe this is not a sound idea and could cause problems? What I have noticed in a very short time is that everyone here is beyond friendly, willing to help and supportive. I believe this would cause  problems down the road. Almost a competitive atmosphere, instead of a place to exchange idea's, information, life events, photos and modelling techniques.

Nathan T

ahhhhemmm,, Bring the good old post count back!! I wanna know! And I want stars and medals next to avatars of long standing members and folks who participate the most...Stupid forum change... This site's format is the most impersonal on the whole web...Rant off.

 

     My thoughts EXACTLY, Nathan!

Bish

 

 

Greg

 

stikpusher

 

 

Greg

 

You know, I've been wanting to say pretty much the same thing for a long time, but was afraid to sound petty. But since Nathan opened the door I really miss the post count and stars.

I realise the post count is avail if one wants to look for it, but it's not the same.

I could go on as to why etc, but I won't.

 

 

 

 

Because as the "Talking Heads" put it in song... "youre talking alot, but you're not saying anything"

or Simon and Garfunkel said it... "People talking without speaking,"

Certain folks here made oodles of posts to elevate their post count without actually contributing anything of substance to the forum. Either of help, or even to lighten the moment with some wit.

 

 

 

 

Yes.

But isn't that more the exception than the rule, Stik?

I find most folks here with lots of stars and post counts to be A-1 contributors.

I found the stars and stuff most helpful as a newbie (a newbie-newbie...now I'm a newbie with a few years tenure :) )u, gave me some idea of the tenure AND activity level of those I was getting to know. As it is now, IMO, showing only year joined and without digging for post counts, well, without getting into details, it can be the exact opposite situation of what you described.

At any rate, still a first class group of folks regardless of the forum changes that some like and some don't.

 

 

 

 

 

You know, i can't make up my mind about post counts. I can think of several members who have joined in the last couple of years and have made a real impact almost from the off. I can think of others who have been here a long time but have a low post count, but i know can still be relied upon to help out. I think with any forum, you have to feel your way in and work out the lay of the land. Looking at post counts could lead you down the wrong path. It does not tell you how long the poster has been modelling before they joined, what experiance they have elsewhere or whether those posts were of any contribution.

So i think they have to be treated with caution.

 

Good points and well-stated, Bish.

I think you've pushed me back on the fence on this issue. :)

Greg

 

Bish

 

 

Greg

 

stikpusher

 

 

Greg

 

You know, I've been wanting to say pretty much the same thing for a long time, but was afraid to sound petty. But since Nathan opened the door I really miss the post count and stars.

I realise the post count is avail if one wants to look for it, but it's not the same.

I could go on as to why etc, but I won't.

 

 

 

 

Because as the "Talking Heads" put it in song... "youre talking alot, but you're not saying anything"

or Simon and Garfunkel said it... "People talking without speaking,"

Certain folks here made oodles of posts to elevate their post count without actually contributing anything of substance to the forum. Either of help, or even to lighten the moment with some wit.

 

 

 

 

Yes.

But isn't that more the exception than the rule, Stik?

I find most folks here with lots of stars and post counts to be A-1 contributors.

I found the stars and stuff most helpful as a newbie (a newbie-newbie...now I'm a newbie with a few years tenure :) )u, gave me some idea of the tenure AND activity level of those I was getting to know. As it is now, IMO, showing only year joined and without digging for post counts, well, without getting into details, it can be the exact opposite situation of what you described.

At any rate, still a first class group of folks regardless of the forum changes that some like and some don't.

 

 

 

 

 

You know, i can't make up my mind about post counts. I can think of several members who have joined in the last couple of years and have made a real impact almost from the off. I can think of others who have been here a long time but have a low post count, but i know can still be relied upon to help out. I think with any forum, you have to feel your way in and work out the lay of the land. Looking at post counts could lead you down the wrong path. It does not tell you how long the poster has been modelling before they joined, what experiance they have elsewhere or whether those posts were of any contribution.

So i think they have to be treated with caution.

 

 

 

 

Good points and well thought out, Bish.

I think you've pushed me back on the fence regarding this issue.

 

Don't worry, there is plenty of room on there. I know plenty of sites display them, and in gneral it dopes no harm, as i said, just treat with caution. And of course the post count is easy enough to see for those who want to.

I agree Bish,

I believe Joe wanted just wanted to point great contributors such yourself, Greg, Don, Stick PJ and many many more. At first I thought that was a good idea, but after reading your and Doog's (another great contributor) post I am thinking the other way. That may be contentious and cause ill feelings. The stars weren’t bad and most of the other sites have something like it, but someone could be a master modeler, building for 60 years and start out with 1 post. Someone may look at the low post count and figure they don’t know the difference between resin and plastic.

Steve

I still think they should just send us all bumper stickers!

Steve, i think Joe's idea was somthing a bit more than the post count. And while a nice idea, i do think it could be filled with problems.

The post count is rather popular, and would cause no harm if displayed, and i think most of us here are smart enough to know not to count on it as a indicator of the person.

fermis

I still think they should just send us all bumper stickers!

 

Ye, along the lines of 'I built this car myself with plastic and glue'

the doog

I say let your work speak for itself and your blogs, forum posts, tips, etc. define you for what you are worth in the eyes of the forum. I feel like appointed "awards" can carry with them the faint taint of elitism, and really, we're all equal here, no one better or less valuable than the rest.

I liked being able to look at someone's profile and see what kind of posts they made.

I did not wish to bring back the stars/post count debate yet again.  That was not the intent.  Like I said in the first post, it would be nice to be able to recognize those that deserve it.  

Lets let this fade away at this point.  All have been civil.  Let us leave it at that.

Joe

fightnjoe

This is something that has been brought up from time to time on the forums.  

 

There have been some very influential members of this forum since my first day.  Some have gone away but some remain.  It would be cool to see something that could recognize them.  Like a wall of fame or wall of recognition.  If a way could be found that it would not be just a popularity contest could it be feasible?  Some have been almost common usernames that a great majority of the members knew of them at the very least.  I know there will be pros and cons for such a recognition but I cannot help but think that something like that would promote increased activity among the members.  If nothing more than the building of good will among the members it may be worth it.

 

Just some thoughts.

 

 

Joe