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I hate Windows 10
Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:47 AM

Some of you know I hate Windows 10 with a passion. Now last night, Microsoft pulled a new bug on me - a new internet explorer called Microsoft Edge. Now I can't even play videos on YouTube because of this new internet explorer. I cannot figure out how to unlock the site since then. I'm now resorted to using Chrome instead.

I've spoke to a former AF tech guy at my workplace about the latest Win 10 upgrade update. He has heard a lot of pretty upset folks of Microsoft doing these updates/upgrades without the consumer's permissions. Now Microsoft is at it again with Microsoft Edge.

Since the upgrade of Win 10 and thanks to them, I can't even print anything off my printer. However, the tech guy has figured out how you can disable the automatic upgrades/updates by Microsoft. 

At this time I am using my iPad and have yet tried to sign in on FSM through Microsoft Edge. I wouldn't be surprised if I can't even sign in on my email account of my preference.

It looks like I'm going to have to take my PC in to get this mess fixed and activate the automatic upgrades/updates by Microsoft. It's time we, as consumers, stand up to Microsoft and demand them to stop of forcing the upgrades/updates without our permission.

The next PC I'm buying will be a Mac. I'm fed up with Microsoft and Bill Gates' monopoly of forcing consumers to these upgrades and updates.

Rant over....

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Posted by Mr Mike on Sunday, October 30, 2016 1:20 PM

When the Windows 10 update came out at the end of July, 2015, I updated and it stopped at 43%...for many hours!  I restarted my computer and it had become an expensive paperweight as nothing worked.  Microsoft wouldn't even begin to help me, so I took it back to where I had purchased it and had Windows 7 reloaded and a friend of mine told me about the GWX Control Panel Monitor which prevents Windows from trying to update my computer to Windows 10.  So far, so good!  No Windows 10 BS.  

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, October 30, 2016 1:27 PM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

The next PC I'm buying will be a Mac. I'm fed up with Microsoft and Bill Gates' monopoly of forcing consumers to these upgrades and updates.

Rant over....

 

So you'll be Tim Scotts pawn?

I agree about 10. I still use XP.

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Posted by fermis on Sunday, October 30, 2016 1:28 PM

The PC I had before this one had Chrome...I didn't much care for it....even not being "techy" in any way, shape, or form. That PC died. I picked up an older, refurbished unit with Windows 7. Much mo better! I kept getting prompts to upgrade to 10....NOPE. They finally went away after a while. I do get a little pop up window, from time to time, prompting me to click for updates....NOPE. I got what I got, and it works for my simpleness!

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Posted by gregbale on Sunday, October 30, 2016 1:41 PM

My new-ish computer offered a free upgrade from Windows 8 (which I found thoroughly annoying) to 10, which I went for, figuring the writing was on the wall.

After battling for 12 or so hours, off and on, trying to get the handful of programs I actually use to function again---and/or torturously restore my functional settings...I threw in the towel and went back to 8. Life's too short. 8 still annoys the bejeezus out of me---but at least I can make it function as intended.

(I'm not a Luddite---I love and happily embrace technology---but I'm of the opinion that it should serve us, rather than we, it. End of rant....)

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Posted by Hodakamax on Sunday, October 30, 2016 2:09 PM

Gang, it's probably time to get a Mac. Initially more expensive but over the long run you get what you pay for. A clever system and equipment. All new Macs can run Windows but who would? Viruses are really difficult to get and you must give a password if you really want one. Figuring costs, aggravation and down time you'll actually come out ahead. They are far superior when working with Photography and Graphic design. (My wife is a Graphic designer and I'm a Photographer.) The last Star Wars movie wasn't done with Windows I must say. To each his own and just advice but at least something to consider. Smile

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Posted by seasick on Sunday, October 30, 2016 3:43 PM

Windows is one problem after another. One solution is to run the software you like on a virtual machine. I have an Oracle virtual box. I boot up with windows 10 and run my favorite software in a custom enviornment in the virtual box. I have 2 flavors of Linux, 32-bit Windows XP (running on a virtual 32 bit CPU) Windows 98SE, DOS 6.22, and FreeDOS. If you have an old DOS program you like there is dosbox. 

virtual Machine http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/virtualbox/downloads/index.html

DOSBOX: http://www.dosbox.com  DOSbox is promoted for playing old dos games but it runs all dos software There are interfaces/front ends for dosbox you can download that make running it easier. 

I've been tangleing with Microsoft since 1988. I made a nice bit of money writing autoexec.bat and config.sys files for people back then to deal with all the B.S. you had to setup to get dos to run properly back then, or to prevent the machines from running out of RAM memory. 

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Posted by ManCityFan on Sunday, October 30, 2016 4:21 PM

Actually, I like a lot about Windows 10...but I also don't like a lot about
Windows 10.  I run Firefox as my browser, and have not run a Windows browser in years. 
The thing that got me was the problems I had setting up email.  I refuse to spend the $$ required for Office, so I ended up, once again, downloading a Mozilla product....Thunderbird.

I also don't like how difficult it is to "tinker" with the system.  When I go to settings, I want to see the ability to actually change the settings, not one or two options that really don't mean anything.

 

That is my two cents....

Dwayne

 

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Posted by templar1099 on Monday, October 31, 2016 5:16 AM

After the initial upgrade, a few days of tweaking, haven't had any problems,and you can still use IE as browser. 

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Monday, October 31, 2016 5:45 AM

MS Windows is being positioned like a Service, much like the Apple Everything!

 

There are a number of ''How-not-to'' tutorials one such here: https://mspoweruser.com/turn-off-windows-update-windows-10/

 

Official MS advice here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3080351

 

(Other tutorials are available, your milage may vary, close cover before striking, at own risk & don't bother suing, I'm divorced, the B!tch got everything!)

 

In Win7, there is a specific MS SP number that needs to be uninstalled from Installed Updates that prevents the Win10 auto-install running.

 

 

 Edge is Cortana/Browser thingy, you don't have to use it, use Chrome or Firefox instead.

 

MS also do a 1/2GB stand-alone Virtual Machine of XP, that can be run as an err... virtual machine...

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=8002 Some Info here: https://zeltser.com/windows-xp-mode-for-vmware-virtualization/

 

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Posted by Phil_H on Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 AM

I haven't had too many issues with W10.

I did discover one thing that may help some people, especially if you're running in 32-bit mode (meaning that the OS can only address a maximum of 4GB of RAM).

Initially, when my laptop upgraded from 7 to 10, Edge was very laggy and frequently went "black screen" (occasionally it popped up an insufficient memory dialog box) from which the only real recovery was a hard reboot.

A bit of research led me to an innocuous seeming personalization setting.

Under Settings/Personalization/Colors you will find a category "Accent Colors". Below the color palette, there's a check box "Automatically pick an accent color from my background"

What this does is change the start menu tile color by picking a color from your desktop wallpaper. If you have your wallpaper set to a slideshow, then the accent color will change each time your desktop picture changes. By default, this option is selected and active.

For some reason, this seems to be a massive CPU and memory hog. De-selecting this option seems to have cured the problems listed above.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, October 31, 2016 8:58 AM

I have been using 10 for about a year and a half. I like it, except for the frequent and lengthy updates.  In all that time I have only had the OS crash once. I find 10 quite stable.

The browser is another matter.  I have never been a fan of Microsoft browsers.  I think it is unreasonable to blame an OS for the faults of an application program.  I use Mozilla Firefox as a browser. It is available free.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by seasick on Monday, October 31, 2016 1:04 PM

Lots of the windows NT utilities are still inside windows 10. you have to dig a little but I found them. All the wizards do is make it easier to mess things up. 

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, October 31, 2016 2:06 PM

I too have firefox as default browser, though many times it locks up when mozilla  has an update, usually associated with shock wave player.

My only nit pick with win10 is that it did not agree with my sound card. Almost every time the computer started up, it would give no sound.  Had to remove the driver and restart - then it would load properly.  Seems to be better lately - finally!

regards,

Jack

 

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Posted by Pigboy on Monday, October 31, 2016 4:02 PM

Amen to that. Seems like when they work all the kinks out of the operating system they go and change it again. I suppose it's like everything else, gets old just through it away.

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Posted by T_Terrific on Monday, October 31, 2016 10:11 PM

That is why I am sticking to Windows 7, and the Avast free anti-virus software and their excellent browser!Cowboy

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Posted by waikong on Monday, October 31, 2016 11:21 PM

So, not to get into an OS flame war here. I have and still use Win10, Linux, Android daily. Wife has iPad and some friend has a Mac. They all have their issues, different issues, pros and cons. All depends on your needs to see which best for you.

Specifically to your point. 

1. if you are running win10 pro, you can change how, if, and when upgrades are done via group policies.

2. you can still use ie11 in win10, or chrome, Firefox, or opera. I have the first 3 installed and switch among them as the needs arise. Mac users also have the choice of switching to chrome or Firefox instead of using safari. Having choices are always good

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:53 PM
Did the free upgrade to 10. I knew I wouldn't like the forced updates - and I don't!!! I Like having a choice. The only reason I use windows at all is for quicken. Have it all on an older notebook. Was tired of dealing with parallels on a Mac. PS hate the forced upgrades in quicken too and the pesky update reminders for iOS on macs too!!

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

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Posted by Liegghio on Wednesday, November 2, 2016 10:15 PM

I paid a premium for Windows 7 Pro when I built this PC  and have been very happy with it so I refused all Mocrosoft's blandishment to upgrade to 10 for free. I once even had to block  an attempt by MS to sneak in a scheduled upgrade on me when I wasn't at the computer for a while. Sounds like it was a good idea to stand pat.

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Wednesday, November 2, 2016 10:27 PM

I have had Mickey Soft PC's for many years, now I have switched to iMac, and believe me, both systems are nothing but aggravating crap.  I guess I just hate computers in general, maybe because I am a cranky old geezer.  

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, November 3, 2016 9:15 AM

Cadet Chuck

I have had Mickey Soft PC's for many years, now I have switched to iMac, and believe me, both systems are nothing but aggravating crap.  I guess I just hate computers in general, maybe because I am a cranky old geezer.  

 

Not if you know what you're getting. If you do a little research on things PC or Mac related, you wouldn't have aggravating crap. When my PC dies out on me few years ago and in the market for a new one, I didn't much of a choice as far as OS goes. But when Microsoft "forced" the upgrade to Win 10, I was livid as hell.

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, November 9, 2016 2:36 PM

Well now it appears that either W10 and Internet Explorer are causing some links not to open. I tried using the shipping feature in Paypal and it will not work. I figured PP was having issues so I gave them a call. Apparently I'm not the only one with the same problem as was told to access the site via Firebox which did work without a problem.

Last month my antivirus stopped working and a call to the support number revealed that W10 was the issue. The tech walked me thru the process of removing and re inatlling the program and worked fine afterwards. 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, November 10, 2016 11:02 AM

plasticjunkie

Well now it appears that either W10 and Internet Explorer are causing some links not to open. I tried using the shipping feature in Paypal and it will not work. I figured PP was having issues so I gave them a call. Apparently I'm not the only one with the same problem as was told to acess the site via Firebox which did work without a problem.

Last month my antivirus stopped working and a call to the support number revealed that W10 was the issue. The tech walked me thru the process of removing and re inatlling the program and worked fine afterwards. 

 

Now you understand why I hate Win10. Too many bugs every time Win10 does an upgrade. Glad you got yours figured out.

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Posted by cwalker3 on Sunday, November 13, 2016 7:05 AM

I updated to 10 not long after it came out and have not had any problems with it. And I have recently switched to Edge from Firefox. I have used Firefox for years and never had an issue until a few months ago. I started having a problem loading videos. The box would open and that arrow in the middle would just go round and round until I got tired of waiting and switched pages. I tried Googling the problem and tried a few fixes that FF recommended, but couldn't fix it. Finally just got tired of fiddling with it and switched to Edge. Problem solved.

Cary

 


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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Sunday, November 13, 2016 9:06 AM

Try playing a video on YouTube. Edge won't let you play them because it tells me it needs verification that it's a real site. It shows a grey lock on top left corner.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, November 13, 2016 8:00 PM

LOL the paypal shipping link works again using Internet Explorer! :noidea:

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

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Posted by JTRACING on Tuesday, November 29, 2016 7:58 AM

Firefox is the only good browser.  I'm liking windows 10 after I shut off cortana and locked down everything else that tries to spy on you.  

I put all my stuff I used on XP onto it and I have no issues 

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Posted by seasick on Wednesday, December 7, 2016 12:17 AM

I have chrome, firefox, and the latest MS hit. If its a google related web site chrome works well. I still perfer firefox. 

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Posted by jr223 on Wednesday, December 14, 2016 7:57 PM

LOL

I too hate windowz 10, as a matter of fact I posted almost an identical email heading for a university course I'm taking, for Computer-Secutiry and had mad the mistake of upgrading to Winblowz 10. Anyway it's a crappy operating system. I use almost exclusivley Linux in particular Ubuntu, which is uterlly fantastic never ever had any issues with viresuse etc.

 

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