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Amazon rant
Posted by Motley on Monday, February 3, 2020 9:59 PM

Ok so I ordered a few things on Amazon. Tamiya glue and paint. And a couple diorama kits. It has been 20 days since I placed the order and I still havent received my items.

It was from a private seller on Amazon. I contacted them and they said it was being shipped from overseas (Japan). I had no idea where they were located. No where in the descrription of their items indicate where they are located.

This is the last time I will ever, ever order from sketchy Amazon. Too many private sellers, scammers, etc. And there are a lot of Tamiya products on Amazon that are in Japan. So be aware that it could take a month for shipping if you buy on Amazon.

I will take the 45min trip to my local hobby shop and buy from them.

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Posted by mrmike on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 12:04 AM

Good idea. I'm sure they would appreciate your business and you'll have a personal connection. I wish I had a local hobby shop; the last one in my area went out of business two years ago, and they were focused on RC. Sure miss walking in the door and saying Hi to fellow modellers.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 1:09 AM
I don't think I ever bought modeling stuff from Amazon.I will say that I have never had any problem with any other thing on I purchased on Amazon,their customer service has always replaced any damaged stuff that I received.There are just too many great online model shops to get stuff from,I guess I never really tried Amazon for modeling stuff.

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Posted by PatW on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 2:02 AM

I started to buy stuff through Amazon but was amazed how expensive their inland shipping costs are. I reverted to ebay, the parts/kits get to me quicker and mostly with free shipping!

Remember , common sense is not common.

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Posted by Real G on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 3:03 AM

My Amazon experience was similar to PatW’s.  I found their pricing was not competitive with Ebay.  I switched over to Ebay and found it to be the best place for small orders of hard to get items.  I have ordered from sellers from Japan and China, and it can take several weeks to a month to arrive.

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Posted by GreySnake on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 8:04 AM
 I’ve gotten a few good deals off Amazon from time to time at one time they were selling 1/35 Miniart T-54’s for thirty or so dollars. I’ll only order something if it’s directly from Amazon. A while back I ordered something from a third party that turned out to be a scam and it ended up taking a month to get my money back.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 8:56 AM

I ordered something from one of the popular online hobby sites, and it took three months.  If it is a new item, many dealers will offer it even before they actually receive their first shipment.  I did at least get updates on receiving date.  But when I placed the order there was no hint it was backordered.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 9:42 AM

My mom doesn't pack my lunch anymore either.

Amazon works best when you are a Prime member. They don't always hit their deliver by's, but they are usually good to me.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 9:53 AM

Hi Ya'll!

    I usually buy off the " Bay". Amazon is still new to me so I haven't gone all out yet. They have some stuff, But, as has been said. It all seems to come from Overseas ( Like Japan) There's Rate of exchange, Import taxes and all that stuff in there somewhere.

     I think I will hold off for a while.

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Posted by modelmaker66 on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 2:51 PM

GMorrison

My mom doesn't pack my lunch anymore either.

Amazon works best when you are a Prime member. They don't always hit their deliver by's, but they are usually good to me.

 

Excellent Mr. Morrison! Amazon shows that they are independant sellers and overseas. It also shows the estimate if time to recieve it and that is mostly accurate. It isn't their fault you did not look at all the information they provided to you.

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 4:03 PM

I love Amazon. They have figured out what the consumer wants and made it happen.

Sorry so many of you have had bad experiences.

I avoid third party sellers unless I check them out first.

-Greg

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 4:50 PM

I like them but don't but kits from them.

Side note, read some of the 1 star revies on some of the kits... "kit was too difficult for me" or "I didn't realize I needed to put it together"?!? What? That's the kit's fault? Read the discription!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 4:59 PM

Perfect example for a 1/72 Revell B-17

"Directions for building this model are very hard to follow and and photos are un clear/blurry I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER MODEL here again"

Really? Like it's the seller's or Amazon's fault you have bad eyesight? Sheesh! Confused

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Posted by Motley on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 5:00 PM

Here is the link to one of the items I bought. It says Ships from and sold by Amazon. No where in there does it say its a private seller from overseas.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LQPLBM/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This whole private seller Amazon crap needs to stop, too much sketchyness, and scammers.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 5:08 PM

Actually I found my favorite source for paint that way. Scalehobbiest is a third party seller on Amazon. After finding what I wanted initially on Amazon, when I needed something else I went straight to Scalehobbyist and they've been great.

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 6:29 PM

Motley

Here is the link to one of the items I bought. It says Ships from and sold by Amazon. No where in there does it say its a private seller from overseas.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LQPLBM/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This whole private seller Amazon crap needs to stop, too much sketchyness, and scammers.

 

I don't think I would have caught that this was a third party seller either. You seem to be right, it doesn't say, and it is Prime eligible which usually is a sign of either a shipped by Amazon or reliable third party.

Again, sorry you had a bad experience.

-Greg

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Posted by fox on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 7:38 PM

I may be wrong, but I think that glues and paints HAVE to be shipped by boat, and when it gets here it has to be sent by truck not plane. That might be the reason for the delay. I think that this was brought up a while back and that was the conclusion that was reached.

Maybe I'm right and maybe I'm wrong.

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Posted by Ted4321 on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 9:39 PM

After reading the title of this thread I thought to myself this is another case of someone who doesn't know how to use Amazon.  

But I looked at the listing.  Yeah, it's trash.  I'd be angry too. 

Manufacturers are getting frustrated with counterfeits there. The ability of a seller to hide or otherwise make it difficult to determine a shipping location seems like it makes it easier for counterfeit sales.  

I really don't care where a seller is located.  I want to know where the product I'll receive is located before it ships.  State and or country is sufficient.  Knowing ship location can help me feel better about transit time and a perceived lower risk of receiving counterfeit junk. 

I have a feeling people will be getting fed up with its lack of responsibility and will be forced to change. Maybe when they reach a 2 trillion $ valuation they'll take action. 

This topic is s can of worms.

This is all my opinion of course.  And I'm probably drunk. 

T e d

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Posted by ajlafleche on Thursday, February 6, 2020 9:57 AM

Motley

Here is the link to one of the items I bought. It says Ships from and sold by Amazon. No where in there does it say its a private seller from overseas.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LQPLBM/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This whole private seller Amazon crap needs to stop, too much sketchyness, and scammers.

 

 

Look moe closely (from your link) "Ships from and sold by Uncommon-Treasures."

 

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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Posted by ajlafleche on Thursday, February 6, 2020 10:05 AM

Don Stauffer

I ordered something from one of the popular online hobby sites, and it took three months.  If it is a new item, many dealers will offer it even before they actually receive their first shipment.  I did at least get updates on receiving date.  But when I placed the order there was no hint it was backordered.

 

 

 

If it's the big one out of Texas, they are in serious financial straights. In many cases, they have to essentially collect your money before placing their order from the manufacturer. In 2018 I placed a big order on Black Friday to seed our late March contest raffle. By February, I had received nothing. I called them up and had to go through the site with a representative to be sure what I was buying was ready to ship. I got maybe one kit from the original order. 

 

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, February 6, 2020 10:18 AM

ajlafleche
Look moe closely (from your link) "Ships from and sold by Uncommon-Treasures."

I looked and looked and missed that. **

Good catch and bad on me. I can't comment on the third party seller itself, but I take back what I said about not making it clear that it is a third party seller.

That said, according to the description, it is a brick and mortar shop in the continental US with decent feedback, for whatever that is worth.

** edit: I notice the linked page has changed. I was free shipping with Prime the other day, now it's not. Makes me wonder if the link to the seller was there before.

 

-Greg

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, February 6, 2020 5:31 PM

Greg

 

 
ajlafleche
Look moe closely (from your link) "Ships from and sold by Uncommon-Treasures."

 

I looked and looked and missed that. **

Good catch and bad on me. I can't comment on the third party seller itself, but I take back what I said about not making it clear that it is a third party seller.

That said, according to the description, it is a brick and mortar shop in the continental US with decent feedback, for whatever that is worth.

** edit: I notice the linked page has changed. I was free shipping with Prime the other day, now it's not. Makes me wonder if the link to the seller was there before.

 

 

Hey Greg--I am sort of following this thread and like you, when I looked at the Amazon link a few days ago, I couldn't find any inkling of the seller. All indications were that it was Amazon provided and that anticipated delivery times were well within the scope of normal ground ship delivery. I think that page has been updated since we looked and I suspect that their webpage was messed up from the start.

A similar thing happened to me once in that the page showed the item stock at Amazon. I placed the order, and when I received the acknowledgment via email it showed a delivery about 4 to 6 weeks out and that the order was being shipped from Japan. Fortunately, I was not in a rush for it. 

Generally speaking, I love Amazons service. Yeah, I probably pay more than I should but I can pretty much count on speedy delivery without adding any special routing to it. Aside from the one glitch I had--I find their service is outstanding. Heck--there was one instance where I ordered a head mounted magnifier and when I got them, I didn't like em. They were too heavy on the head. I wrote a review noting the weight. It wasn't scathing, just saying. I had every intention to keep them. Shortly after I received an email from Amazon apologizing that I was unhappy with the product, and that a full refund would be issued. They didn't even ask for the product back. I was amazed. The value of the order was around $30. I have several stories I could write but hey--you get the drift.

Data entry mistakes happen. If it's intentional and it becomes the norm, I will surely think twice before ordering from them. Until then, and in my case, I think it was an honest mistake.

Sorry to the OP for their bad experience. That stinks.

 

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Thursday, February 6, 2020 6:23 PM
As with any online seller you have to look at everything. I've bought a number of kits from Amazon. Hasegawa Tamiya Airfix Italeri. But you can't just buy the first one you see. I've seen 1/48 Hasegawa Bf109 for $20 +/- but then I've seen the same kit for $3256.74 plus $14.99 shipping. So it pays to shop around

 

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, February 6, 2020 7:46 PM

Hey Steve, thanks for confirming that you believe the page has changed too. And for your other thoughts and comments.

Maybe my memory isn't 100% shot quite yet afterall!

-Greg

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, February 6, 2020 9:19 PM

Greg
Maybe my memory isn't 100% shot quite yet afterall!

No sir. I think you had it right. When I looked the other day I couldn't find anything and I made sure to look close. Today, I spotted it immediately. 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, February 6, 2020 9:22 PM

The delay may happen with third party sellers so I try to stay clear of those and over seas ones. The wife has Prime and the last time I ordered on Amazon was for a bunch of paper targets I use for the gun range. Shipping was free and the box got to my doorsteps either the next day or the day after.

Most of our Christmas shopping was done on Amazon and the delivery times were incredebly fast. They are also fantastic on returns and refunds so no complaints here.

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

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Posted by Ted4321 on Friday, February 7, 2020 9:08 AM

Bakster

 

 
Greg
Maybe my memory isn't 100% shot quite yet afterall!

 

No sir. I think you had it right. When I looked the other day I couldn't find anything and I made sure to look close. Today, I spotted it immediately. 

 

I'm also following.  You were correct Greg.  I looked when you first posted it.  Did not list the name.  

I stand by what i said earlier but admit my family has spent plenty of money with them.  And still continue to. 

T e d

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Posted by Greg on Friday, February 7, 2020 9:55 AM

Ted4321
I'm also following. You were correct Greg. I looked when you first posted it. Did not list the name.

Thanks for taking the time to let me know, Ted.

-Greg

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Posted by Motley on Friday, February 7, 2020 10:09 AM

Greg

 

 
ajlafleche
Look moe closely (from your link) "Ships from and sold by Uncommon-Treasures."

 

I looked and looked and missed that. **

Good catch and bad on me. I can't comment on the third party seller itself, but I take back what I said about not making it clear that it is a third party seller.

That said, according to the description, it is a brick and mortar shop in the continental US with decent feedback, for whatever that is worth.

** edit: I notice the linked page has changed. I was free shipping with Prime the other day, now it's not. Makes me wonder if the link to the seller was there before.

 

 

Ok they must have just changed the description on that. I did contact Amazon and complained about in their info from is it Amazon or a private seller.

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Posted by Niko on Friday, February 7, 2020 10:35 AM

When buying products on Amazon, I always check for the "Prime" symbol. You can even filter products with the "Prime" filter on the side of the web page. This way you have some assurance that the products are facillitated by Amazon.

I whole heartedly agree that you should help out local brick and mortar, but Amazon has some select items with very competitive prices and shipping.

I also recommend checking out ScaleHobbyist.com.

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