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Covid 19 and Model Shows
Posted by UnwaryPaladin on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 6:38 AM

I go to two model shows every year, one is coming up in a couple weeks. Of course I'm hoping that it's not cancelled, but I wouldn't be surprised. 

 

 

Anyone know of cancelled shows, or are you going to avoid shows due to this virus?

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 7:37 AM

Haven't heard of any, except in Japan.  I've checked the IPMS site, but so far no news of cancellations.  If you're feeling unwell, please stay at home.

I will say that at the current rate of infection, you are more likely to catch the regular flu which is just as bad.  You could always attend in a hazmat suit!

Guess I've seen too many flus come and go.  Hong Kong, SARS, H1N1....

Gary

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 7:59 AM

Nothing cancelled here yet and i don't see any need to panic. I trust our goverment to have a grip on things and will follow advice given. Though by the time the show season kicks in, it wopuold not surprise me if many do get cancelled just to be on the safe side.

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 10:33 AM

We just had a gold show cancelled/postponed in the Portland area, and our local vet's home just went into a modified lockdown because of cases within 60 miles.

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 10:34 AM

I'm on the committee that stages an annual figure show, and I've had two people ask if we're still having our show or canceling it because of the virus, and if we're "allowing the Europeans to attend".  We're not canceling, and everyone is welcome.

I agree about panicking.  It's driven by the 24/7 media drumbeat.  I also agree that the annual flu is equally or more dangerous, and we never hear this kind of hysteria.

COVID-19 is following a pattern similar to the annual flu, too-those most in danger are those who already have weakened immune systems, such as elderly people and very young children.  And most people who have caught the bug so far have survived.  The number of new cases in its original location started tailing off some time ago.  And it's likely to weaken further as the weather gets warmer.

It is sad that anyone passes away, but this is not the end of humanity.

Do the things you'd normally do to protect yourself against catching the flu, don't panic, and you'll be all right.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by UnwaryPaladin on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 10:53 AM

Glad to hear the modeling community isn't subscibing to the panic. 

Stay calm

Wash your hands

Don't sneeze on other people

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Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:10 AM

goldhammer

... our local vet's home just went into a modified lockdown because of cases within 60 miles.

 

Assuming you mean veterans not veterinarians ;->
 
That is prudent, since most of the people who have come down with it and have died are older (says the 70 year old guy), and/or have compromised health conditions.    Controlling access, enforcing sanitation practices, etc. is a wise move.
 
My community's annual pickle festival, parade, & street fair is still on for this weekend.  We're monitoring recommendations by the county health department.  There is a presumptive positive case in the next county
 
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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:48 AM

UnwaryPaladin

Stay calm

Wash your hands

Don't sneeze on other people

 
It's a sign of how much we've declined, that we have to remind adults of these things.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by Real G on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 12:07 PM

the Baron

 

 
UnwaryPaladin

Stay calm

Wash your hands

Don't sneeze on other people

 

 

 
It's a sign of how much we've declined, that we have to remind adults of these things.
 

 

Oh wait - was that directed at adults?  Yeah pretty sad.  And the adults seem to think a little fabric mask will keep them from getting sick.  When a friend showed up at my house offering me one of those N95 masks, I told him if he really wanted to effectively protect himself, he’d need something like an NBC outfit.

Watching all those people at the stores waddling to the checkouts with cases of toilet paper makes me want to shout “It’s a dry cough, not diarrhea!!!”

OK rant mode off.  I’m just grumpy that the main reason for my upcoming Japan trip got scuttled.  Now to wait and see if the airline will give me my money back.

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 6:24 AM

the Baron

I'm on the committee that stages an annual figure show, and I've had two people ask if we're still having our show or canceling it because of the virus, and if we're "allowing the Europeans to attend".  We're not canceling, and everyone is welcome.

I agree about panicking.  It's driven by the 24/7 media drumbeat.  I also agree that the annual flu is equally or more dangerous, and we never hear this kind of hysteria.

COVID-19 is following a pattern similar to the annual flu, too-those most in danger are those who already have weakened immune systems, such as elderly people and very young children.  And most people who have caught the bug so far have survived.  The number of new cases in its original location started tailing off some time ago.  And it's likely to weaken further as the weather gets warmer.

It is sad that anyone passes away, but this is not the end of humanity.

Do the things you'd normally do to protect yourself against catching the flu, don't panic, and you'll be all right.

 

Very well put sir.  The media is at least 60% (if not more) of the panic problem.  Be wise about the situation (as we should for the Flu season... period) but it's not the bloody zombie apocalypse!!!  LOL!  

 

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 6:28 AM

Real G

 

 
the Baron

 

 
UnwaryPaladin

Stay calm

Wash your hands

Don't sneeze on other people

 

 

 
It's a sign of how much we've declined, that we have to remind adults of these things.
 

 

 

 

Oh wait - was that directed at adults?  Yeah pretty sad.  And the adults seem to think a little fabric mask will keep them from getting sick.  When a friend showed up at my house offering me one of those N95 masks, I told him if he really wanted to effectively protect himself, he’d need something like an NBC outfit.

Watching all those people at the stores waddling to the checkouts with cases of toilet paper makes me want to shout “It’s a dry cough, not diarrhea!!!”

OK rant mode off.  I’m just grumpy that the main reason for my upcoming Japan trip got scuttled.  Now to wait and see if the airline will give me my money back.

 

LOL!  I experienced that the other day and I said the same thing.  TP?  Water?  I'm in Florida and one would think a hurricane is on it's way!  Publix (the main grocery store in Florida) is rationing tissues, TP, hand wipes, hand sanitizer, and Lysol because everyone is in a panic mode.  I've heard of more "regular" Flu cases then Corona.  Common sense is all that is needed here.  LOL!

 

 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 6:42 AM

The reason why people are sticking up on non related items like water,TP,water,groceries and such is because they are being told to have 14 days of supplies on hand in case they are told to self quarantine for 14 days,I understand why they are doing it,but still feel it's overblown.

The thing that depressed me was when I was talking to my wife,I told her we don't have to worry,only the old people over 60 have to be concerned.Then I said,wait a minute,that's us were old people now!!! Funny,I we don't feel 62

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:30 AM

the Baron

 

I agree about panicking.  It's driven by the 24/7 media drumbeat.  I also agree that the annual flu is equally or more dangerous, and we never hear this kind of hysteria.

COVID-19 is following a pattern similar to the annual flu, too-those most in danger are those who already have weakened immune systems, such as elderly people and very young children.  And most people who have caught the bug so far have survived.  The number of new cases in its original location started tailing off some time ago.  And it's likely to weaken further as the weather gets warmer.

It is sad that anyone passes away, but this is not the end of humanity.

Do the things you'd normally do to protect yourself against catching the flu, don't panic, and you'll be all right.

 

Ditto I was unaware that THOUSANDS of people die annually from the flu. The only difference is there is a vaccine for the flu and none for this Covid19 but then which strand will hit you is another question. Just cause one gets the vaccine doesn' guarantee a free ride. We got vaccinated earlier this month and were told to get re pinched in September. Year before last the wife and I got vaccinated but she caught the strand not covered for the season but I was fine.

The media LOVES to fuel up fear and panic in us just like in hurricane season here in Florida. They go 24/7 with the cone of uncertainty that makes one nuts thinking about a Cat 5 coming staright at you. We had a destructive Cat 5 sitting over the Bahamas for over a day and the VERY irresponsible jackass on the Weather Channel kept projecting the massive destruction this storm would cause if it veered to the left just an inch. He kept saying this over and over even though the storm was projected to be blocked by a front and steered to the north away from the coast as it eventually did, thank God.

From what I have read and heard, the very old specially in nursing homes or having health issues are the main target. As stated, use common sense and wash your hands and avoid touching your face, wash and wash till the flu season goes down.

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Posted by bluenote on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:31 AM
I'm surprised no one on this forum has made this point, considering most here are history/war buffs, but the concern is not the fact that this is similar to a regular flu, but that it can change and mutate like the spanish flu did. The spanish flu started out much the same as this one, flu symptoms, elderly died mostly. But then a second wave occurred the next year, and it mutated and became VERY deadly killing mostly healthy young adults. (usually within days of getting it). Most estimates were 50-100 million died. That is the concern. The longer this thing spreads, the more likely it can change and become much more deadly. Of course, things were much different back then with mostly soldiers getting it with the unsanitary trench conditions and all going home to different corners of the globe. However, pandemics do happen and the global concern here is that this COULD become one. Having said all that though, I do agree with all of you that the media is going crazy with this and causing more panic than is needed.
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Posted by ajlafleche on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:09 AM

That's under discussion. Massachusetts' Governor, Charlie Baker (yes, a republican) has declared an open ended state of emergency recommending following CDC guidelines, which include restricting large gatherings of people. Our show is always crowded and our demographic has a lot of older people who are the most vulnerable. One of the problems with this disease is that you can be contagious wothout symptoms, passing it on to others. There are also an inaddequte number of tests and there are reports of people showing symptoms being refused tests. There is no vaccine and won't be for some time. Media frenzy? I guess the cities who have cancelled major events such as huge St Pat's parades at a certain significant financial loss to the sponsors and local businesses are pretty gullible. I guess the New York Auto show is gullible, too, as well as the colleges and universities sending students home early must not be well informed either. F1 is running its events without spectators. Themayor of Boston is preparing for the possibility of cancelling the Bsoton Marathon which will be a major cost to the city. So our little model shows seem not to be thet significant a loss at this time. 

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Posted by GreySnake on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:16 AM
The panic is starting to get annoying. The panic where I live has been going on for almost three weeks now. I wish people would just use some common sense. Wash hands, don’t touch your face, practice good hygiene etc. It’s just crazy going to Wal-Mart last night and seeing shelves upon shelves of products cleaned out.
 
 
It’s good to be vigilant about hygiene but this is just madness. People are even stealing the wipes for carts at grocery stores. I know people are worried about two weeks quarantine and being stuck without supplies but have a little common sense. If I ended up having to self quarantine I’d just order stuff off Amazon or pay a neighbor to go shopping for me.  

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Posted by Tickmagnet on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:56 AM

This has been so overblown it's not even funny. I guess next year we will all have to self quarantine during the cold and flu season. Every year or two there is some new pandemic and they are always a bunch of hyped up nothings. I surmise someone somewhere is invested in a vaccine, soon to appear, to make millions off all the fear mongering they are doing right now. Just my humble opinion.

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:46 AM

A local hot tub shop with a couple of cases of Legionaire's Disease linked to them had a hot tub show a couple weekends ago... Indifferent

I don't care if they don't fill the tubs I stayed far away!!! Ick!

That scares me a lot more than the Corona virus... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:56 AM

bluenote
I'm surprised no one on this forum has made this point, considering most here are history/war buffs, but the concern is not the fact that this is similar to a regular flu, but that it can change and mutate like the spanish flu did. The spanish flu started out much the same as this one, flu symptoms, elderly died mostly. But then a second wave occurred the next year, and it mutated and became VERY deadly killing mostly healthy young adults. (usually within days of getting it). Most estimates were 50-100 million died. That is the concern. The longer this thing spreads, the more likely it can change and become much more deadly. Of course, things were much different back then with mostly soldiers getting it with the unsanitary trench conditions and all going home to different corners of the globe. However, pandemics do happen and the global concern here is that this COULD become one. Having said all that though, I do agree with all of you that the media is going crazy with this and causing more panic than is needed. 

ALL viruses mutate.  This one has already shown signs of having peaked in its original location-China; the number of new cases has plateaued.  Most people who contracted the virus have survived  We will likely see it follow a similar course elsewhere.

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 12:01 PM

Real G

the Baron

UnwaryPaladin

Stay calm

Wash your hands

Don't sneeze on other people

 
It's a sign of how much we've declined, that we have to remind adults of these things.
 

Oh wait - was that directed at adults?  Yeah pretty sad.  And the adults seem to think a little fabric mask will keep them from getting sick.  When a friend showed up at my house offering me one of those N95 masks, I told him if he really wanted to effectively protect himself, he’d need something like an NBC outfit...

 
My mother raised me to wash my hands-and my face-routinely.  Coming in to eat from playing or working outside? "Wash your hands and face!"  Bedtime?  "Wash your hands and face!" And on and on.  Somehow we lost that.  Maybe with the Sixties?  "Who are you to push your rules on ME, man?!"
 
As for those masks, yeah, that's one of the funnier things.  They don't protect the wearer from disease as much as they do prevent him from spreading whatever he has.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 1:02 PM

on the lighter of this  this troublesome issue I saw a joke somewhere that said something like ..... "corona virus infected male looking for female with Lyme Disease  to have a drink! Zip it!

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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 1:18 PM

Same here Baron.  And stuff like cover your nose and mouth when coughing, don’t pick your nose, stop rubbing your eyes, etc.

I can’t figure it out - wasn’t there a recent obsession with hand sanitizer?

At least we are safe here in the forum - no viruses, at least the biological kind (knock on wood).

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:19 PM

Remember the panic over "Y2K"?  Same thing, all over again.

Computer, did we bring batteries?.....Computer?

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Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:27 PM
Why has oil dropped almost $20 a barrel in about 2 weeks,but prices at the pump in my area are only down about 6 cents.What a scam, if oil went up $20 a barrel they would raise gas the next day by 25 cents immediately What a bunch of scammers

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Posted by ajlafleche on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:03 PM

Just saw Tri Con in Pittssbur is cancelled. 

The NCAA Tourney is going on without attendees. Consider the money they are losing. 

 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 5:29 PM

Cadet Chuck

Remember the panic over "Y2K"?  Same thing, all over again.

 

No, its not the same all over again. Y2K was a theoretical impact on computers, Covid 19 is not theoretical and it is killing people. That comparison is as idiotic as the comparison with the Flu. The WHO and goverments around the world are not acting for the fun of it. With a more connected world and a more elderly world population, could potentially make this worse than past pandemics. This can be counted with modern medicine and understanding of disease, but nations and people have to act on that.Sure, some may be over reacting, and some people may be doing idiotic things like bulk buying toilet rolls and ammunition. But i would rather goverments took precautions and people did the sensible thing.

Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

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Posted by CG Bob on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:20 PM

The Toledo Weak Signals R/C Show was cancelled today.  This year was their 66th year.  

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Posted by UnwaryPaladin on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:29 PM

ajlafleche

Just saw Tri Con in Pittssbur is cancelled. 

The NCAA Tourney is going on without attendees. Consider the money they are losing. 

 

 

 

Where did you see Tri Con was cancelled? I didn't see it on their site, looks like a go on IPMS site. 

Joe

 

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Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:41 PM

Wow - Trump just banned travel from continental europe for 30 days.

Thanks,

John

Ain't no reason to hang my head, I could wake up in the mornin' dead 

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:59 PM

Are we getting a little too political in this thread?  Let's just concentrate on model shows and any cancellations.

I see someone was asking if the NATs might be canceled on the IPMS forum, but that's months away at the end of July.  Too soon to be forecasting that far in the future.

We have a small show coming up for IPMS Region 3 here in Anniston on March 28th.  So far as I know, it's still a go.

Gary

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