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A bit of a PTSD in a grociery store
Posted by castelnuovo on Monday, March 16, 2020 12:36 AM

So, corona virus is all over the place. Went to the supermarket nearby us to buy some stuff. I had to stop for a minute and collect my self as some old memories started, or at least tryed to, flow back. People running around with packed grociery carts, grabing non perishables, loading cars and comming back for more, empty shelfs. No canned food, no pasta, no diapers, no toilet papers, no baby food, almost empty meat shelf, no canned soup...you got the picture. Or maybe you dont. The whole scene looked, don't know how to put it, familiar yes, very much so. What was missing was the war, of course, but seeing people stockpiling like this and coming back to buy more...Ridiculous? Sad? Stupid? I don't know. I get it if people buy few extra things in case they get quarantined, but this rush on the grociery stores looks over the top. Is it the hysteria and the survival instinct, me only and to hell with the rest? Looked like that in many people. And then the profiteers. Oh yes. These scum of the earth and vultures always appear. We had them in Croatia too. Some of them got the justice. Some guy here bought stuff for $70000 and sold everything for $100000, making $30000 in cash. No tax. Don't know who is worse, the guy who was selling or the panicky people who were buying from him.

Times like this bring the best and worst out of the people. The me only mentality and the I'll buy just few so that the rest can have some too. I took 2 boxes of pasta but the woman behind me grabed all the rest, just shoved it in her cart. I hope she has children and it is her mother survival instinct. Then again, I have kids too. There are no enemy tanks and bombers to disrupt the food supply chain. No gangs of well armed unregulated and undisciplined self styled "soldiers" roaming the ground taking food. This is not war people, most of you have seen it only on TV and video games. People really need to calm down, take few deep breaths and just re evaluate the situations. Maybe watch less tv, read less internet news and just tune out a bit, not entierly, just a bit from being constantly bombarded with corona news.

This is my evening thought. I'll have a liquid corona now, bought a bottle just for sh... and gigls. Walked into the house and said to my wife that I have corona. She knowes me well enough to fall for BS like this, but we had a laugh. And that is what we need.

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Posted by keavdog on Monday, March 16, 2020 12:46 AM

^^^^^ lol

Thanks,

John

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, March 16, 2020 12:57 AM

I can only imagine the memories of people like yourself who have been thru true misery and privation triggered by the foolishness of many stupid people. 

Enjoy those Coronas.

 

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Posted by Phil_H on Monday, March 16, 2020 1:04 AM

Panic buying/hoarding has been under way here in Australia for several weeks now. There have been cases of people actually fighting for toilet paper. The whole situation is ridiculous.

(Warning: Coarse language)

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Posted by damouav on Monday, March 16, 2020 2:29 AM

I'm embarrassed to call myself Australian after these stupid women go full blown bogan.

Ridiculous is correct.

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Posted by GAF on Monday, March 16, 2020 6:30 AM

If you can keep your head...

I think some Britisher wrote a poem concerning such situations.  Too bad people are too busy watching cat videos on their phones.  Wink

Gary

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Posted by Bish on Monday, March 16, 2020 8:47 AM

GAF

If you can keep your head...

I think some Britisher wrote a poem concerning such situations.  Too bad people are too busy watching cat videos on their phones.  Wink

Gary

 

IF, by Kipling (who else)

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46473/if---

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Monday, March 16, 2020 8:54 AM
The panic buying here really ramped up here last Thursday. I wasn’t planning to go out Saturday but the Misses needed a prescription so I had to brave the crowds and I just felt embarrassed for being human. Just people hoarding items like ten big jugs of milk! I’m glad I bought cat food and litter a couple weeks ago because apparently people are hoarding that now as well. I just walked out of the store shaking my head there’s no need for this massive panic. It is scary and I get why people are concerned but the panic buying will just make it worse.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, March 16, 2020 8:59 AM

damouav

I'm embarrassed to call myself Australian after these stupid women go full blown bogan.

Ridiculous is correct.

 

Don't worry mate, like the virus, stupidity does not respect borders. We have them here as well.

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Posted by GAF on Monday, March 16, 2020 9:18 AM

Bish

Yes, sir!  For those who are tired of cat videos, you might take a look at this one, though it's very dry history that will bore you to tears.  But... it's great!

Carry on!

Gary

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Posted by Tickmagnet on Monday, March 16, 2020 9:29 AM

Well said. It's just showing us who the sheep in the world are. Thanks for putting it in perspective for people.

 

 

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Posted by skyraider0609 on Monday, March 16, 2020 9:45 AM
There are two pandemics going on now. The corona virus and fear. They’re both growing exponentially now and I’m concerned that both have yet to show how bad they’ll be before they pass. My fiancé and I have enough food and tp for a little while (by that I mean a week maybe?), but after that, I have no idea what happens. I know that last week when I was in the grocery store and the shelves were full of sanitizing wipes and toilet paper, I bought just one of each thinking that was fair to others who’d need it too. Not the prevailing opinion now, sadly. Also, does anyone here have any sympathy for Matt Colvin in Tennessee? Imho, he represents what the problem is everywhere. “Me first. $&@% you to everyone else” Hang in everyone. I think things get much worse before they get better, but they will.
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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, March 16, 2020 9:51 AM

My nephew went to the grocery store to get some essentials: hot dogs, hot dog buns, wine and whiskey.Big Smile

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, March 16, 2020 10:06 AM

Yeah, there is a fine line between precaution and prudence on the one side, and panic on the other.

The media drumbeat does not help, including the saturation in social media (which includes online forums, by the way, not just Facebook).

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by WillysMB on Monday, March 16, 2020 11:05 AM

Here outside Philadelphia it's crazy, most of Eastern PA has shut down by order of the governor. Schools, fitness facilities, all government buildings, and all small businesses have been told to close with a threat of being ordered to close, and now talk of closing the state border. Shelves in most of the supermarkets are bare, and restaurants have been told to do take-away or delivery only. We were better prepared for the Zombie Apocalypse than for this. 

My daughter is a vet at a specialay clinic in Rhode Island. Their caseload for emergency services has doubled, they've stopped all non-critical specialty care to focus just on emergency, and staff is sleeping at the hospital - and that's for pets...

The world's going nuts for a relatively benign virus, particularly when compared to SARS, MERS, and Swine Flu which were much more deadly and elicited nothing like this.

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Posted by armornut on Monday, March 16, 2020 11:17 AM

   I took a couple days off from my work just to be cautious, my schedule afforfed me nesrly a week. I have the common cold, spiked a fever of 99.0 and sweated it out. I keep in the loop with my compamy phone however before I left rumor had it that we were on the brink of susspending operations. I domicile 130 miles and am kinda concerned about my commute. I know it won't be all Fury Road but it does cost money to travel both time and gas.

   This whole situation truely sucks! All the hype is overblown for sure and the hoarding, scalping, and overall general panic it utterly STUPID. 

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Posted by skyraider0609 on Monday, March 16, 2020 11:31 AM
I don’t think I’d call covid “relatively benign”. While it’s true that SARS and MERS had a higher mortality rate, they were much more contained as compared to this pandemic. The total case count worldwide from covid 19 has not even come close to peaking yet, so we wait and see.
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Posted by GreySnake on Monday, March 16, 2020 11:53 AM
Take this with a grain of salt but it seems I “might” have already had Covid-19 a three/four weeks back. I had zero energy, no appetite, limbs hurting etc. Got told it wasn’t the flu and just to get rest. It took a little over two weeks till I finally started feeling normal again. During that time I more or less quarantined myself from my spouse and others, just to be on the safe side.  From reading it seems there might be two different strains going around one is milder than the other. Again please just take this with a grain of salt as I have no proof since there wasn't any testing being done yet while sick. I’ll just say be careful especially if you are older because I’m in my early thirties and if it was Covid it kicked my rear.  

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, March 16, 2020 12:07 PM

We are both 65 plus. We've set ourselves up at home for the near term, and our business has been online for a couple of years already.

Our market is senior living facilities. That's all on hold, no meetings or site visits, 

A friend of mine opened a brew pub last year that's been clicking along. Last night he was shut down. They'e been bottling their tap kegs all night, distribution TBA.

NY Gov gave a pretty sobering press conference. Estimates are 40 - 60% infection rate. In a state of 18 M, thats 7 -10 M. Hospitalization rate running at 17% of those. Thats 1.1 M to 1.7 M. Current State capacity is 50 K beds.

This is no drill, people.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, March 16, 2020 12:55 PM

I watched the Gov of NY give his press conference. I don't live in NY but I think that he did a great job. He describe his plan in great detail, didn't sugar coat anything. He is asking people who own empty warehouse space to allow the State to setup temporary hospital beds and is having the National Guard help. People would not be so freaked out if the Feds presented how they are dealing with the virus in the same manner.

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Posted by fox on Monday, March 16, 2020 12:57 PM

Saw the rush on markets on TV. A mother, father, and 4 kids each with a shopping cart. Filled 2 of them with TP and 2 with towels. Sent the kids out to put them in the car and they came back and filled up again. Then they started emptying the shelves. Wonder how much this guy usually pays for groceries. He's going to have to rob a bank to pay for this one. 

Stay safe guys. They say it'll get worse before it gets better.

Jim  Captain

PS - Didn't know that the need for TP was one of the side effects of this virus. If so, I hope this guy has 6 in his house, otherwise, he's in serious trouble.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, March 16, 2020 1:16 PM

the Baron

Yeah, there is a fine line between precaution and prudence on the one side, and panic on the other.

...

 

The mathematical theories of Chaos define the response of systems refer to models of systems with complex non-linear relationships, where a very slight difference in the starting variables lead to wildly different outcomes.  Sounds like human nature is chaotic!

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, March 16, 2020 1:43 PM

Don Stauffer

 

 
the Baron

Yeah, there is a fine line between precaution and prudence on the one side, and panic on the other.

...

 

 

 

The mathematical theories of Chaos define the response of systems refer to models of systems with complex non-linear relationships, where a very slight difference in the starting variables lead to wildly different outcomes.  Sounds like human nature is chaotic!

 

 

We tend to take pride in the fact that we are rational and logical creatures. WRONG!! We are driven and controled by our emotions. Our response to the virus is a perfect example.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, March 16, 2020 1:51 PM

I went to the supermarket on Friday. All the rice, cheese, pasta, cleaning products, eggs milk and bread were gone. There was a woman pushing a cart and pulling a second cart that were overflowing with stuff. Pounds and pounds of chicken and beef, bags of potatoes. Boxes and boxes of Mac and Cheese, frozen pizza, frozen veggies, pasta, pasta sauce, peanut butter, toilet paper and bottled water. Out of control and driven by fear. I have no idea how that would feel.

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, March 16, 2020 2:03 PM

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by skyraider0609 on Monday, March 16, 2020 2:09 PM
There’s a very thin veneer of civility that holds people in check when times are normal. Throw in a crisis of any kind, and the primal instincts take over. Try confronting someone with a shopping cart full of TP about leaving some for another person and you’ll get that YT vid earlier in this thread. Imagine the Russians, Chinese or DPRK hack the electrical grid and put us in the dark, or shut down the financial sector. How long before it’s complete anarchy? Honestly, I’ve never been a prepper, but after this crisis passes, however long it takes, I’m going to learn from this and stockpile a bit of essentials just to have on hand. The basics in reasonable quantities.
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Posted by GAF on Monday, March 16, 2020 2:37 PM

It's okay!  I'm sure the C-130s will be dropping crates of MREs and copies of the New York Times for use as toilet paper any day now!  Meanwhile, keep your baseball bats ready to fend off the zombies...

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, March 16, 2020 2:55 PM

Yep those who overbuy will either have the excess spoil or they will go into profiteer mode. .so much for rational civilized behavior.heard there was a stabbing at A Sams Club over the last package of toilet paper  .

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, March 16, 2020 2:57 PM
9 meals away from anarchy

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Monday, March 16, 2020 3:03 PM

On a bright note:  My local liquor/beer store is still fully stocked and operational....

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