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FSM going to 6 issues a year?
Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:00 PM

I haven't yet received my latest issue of FSM, but I saw a mention on Hyperscale that it contains a note that the magazine is going to 6 issues a year.  Is that accurate?

If so, will the price of an annual subscription be reduced?

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:16 PM

Notice on page 5 in the new issue.  Yes on 6 issues per year.  All current subscribers are converted, no adjustments or extensions on subscriptions.

Doesn't look like any reduction in pricing or more pages per issue.  Just have to wait and see.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:50 PM

the Baron

I haven't yet received my latest issue of FSM, but I saw a mention on Hyperscale that it contains a note that the magazine is going to 6 issues a year.  Is that accurate?

If so, will the price of an annual subscription be reduced?

 

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Posted by ikar01 on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 1:26 PM

If they don't compensate for the change they may be making a serious mistake.

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Posted by jeffpez on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 1:35 PM

This reminds me of what happened several years ago when Autoweek suddenly became Auto every other week. A few years later it was gone and my subscription became Car and Driver which I've let lapse. I hope this isn't the first step in either becomong all digital or even worse shutting down. Don't forget Scale Auto suddenly went away too. I really like this mag and hope it lives as long as I do but when I renew in a couple of months it will only be for 1 year rather than my usual multi year subscription. 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 2:53 PM
Don't care what happens to the magazine,but I sure would miss the forum.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 3:07 PM

Tojo72
Don't care what happens to the magazine,but I sure would miss the forum.
 

Ditto

 

 

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 3:09 PM

I can see hard copy subscriptions going down, maybe too far to sustain. A lot are going to let the magazine subscription to expire.  Then have to see if the digital hangs around, and at what price point.  I look for this to be around for at most a couple more years before it's all gone.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 3:40 PM

It says that more of the content will be online. So there will be more items on line than in the mag. Like some have said, i would miss the forum far more than the mag. But of course if a lot of people unsubcribe, we risk loseing both.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 4:10 PM

Bish

It says that more of the content will be online. So there will be more items on line than in the mag. Like some have said, i would miss the forum far more than the mag. But of course if a lot of people unsubcribe, we risk loseing both.

 

I'll play devils advocate here...

By that standard, more content online vs. less content in paper print, either the price of the physical magazine should remain the same/be reduced, or the price of an online subscription should be increased. It they remain the same, I'll bet that more than one magazine subscriber who does not care for digital editions will say why pay more for less, and drop their subscription. Modelers are trending towards an older more cantankerous bunch. Yes, there are some younger types, but most of us are Baby Boomers or Gen.X. And will the online subscription provide a hard disc annually to give the paying customer physical possession of what they have paid for? Or does it all go away if and when a subscription lapses?  

 

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Posted by MJames70 on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 5:42 PM

The Powers That Be will probably be along presently to lock and delete this thread, or say 'Everything is Fine!!!' Stick out tongue It's going to be tough to spin this as a good thing, though. Good luck, guys. 

FSM has a crisis. The youngsters that do model don't read any kind of mags, let alone hobby ones. The old farts have read the same 'How to apply decals!' article 29  times already over the years. So who is the magazine for? Lately, it seems they've been aiming at young and inexperienced. And it hasn't worked. 

Along those lines was the demise of Scale Auto. Those subscribers forced into FSM are probably not renewing en masse now as their subs end. The hell you say, people that had an entire mag aren't satisfied by maybe a single article every few months? Who'd have thunk it?

So, instead of say, improving content, some guru who likely doesn't know anything about models or magazines chose merger instead. Scale Auto is dead, and it looks like these are the End Times for FSM as well. 

 

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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 6:26 PM

I'm saddened by this news.  I'll be honest, I have been going back & forth on renewing my subscription with FSM.  Like everyone else I've noticed that the magazine has gotten thinner and the articles less interesting but FSM has been a mainstay in my modeling hobby since I reentered the hobby as an adult 30 years ago.  I picked up my first issue of FSM at a flea market which lit the fire of interest in the hobby again.  Over the years I bought many back issues and kept my subscription going.  I even subscribed to Scale Auto even though car modeling is my nemesis(can't master the real glossy finish).  I even bought the yearly annuals by FSM and Scale Auto.  My fondest memory of FSM is lying on my back on the sleeper sofa after having both of my knees replaced and each morning one of my kids woulod go to my workshop and retrieve one of my big & heavy binders with 2-3 years worth of FSM in it and that is what kept me company during the day while my kids where at school and my wife at work.  Like many others have said this forum is a blessing.  Our local club hasn't met in-person for over a year so between this forum and the various modeling podcasts, I've been able to keep my sanity and interest in modeling alive.  Finally, we all know that our local brick & mortar hobby shops are quickly disappearing, do we want this mainstay of our hobby to disappear too? Just an old man's thoughts.

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Posted by John 3:16 KJV on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 7:17 PM

Didn't care for the change and would like a price reduction. If it's gonna be two mo. between magazines, they should make each one at least somewhat thicker, too. 

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Posted by Glamdring on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 8:19 PM

This is an extremely disappointing development, though not entirely unexpected given past statements by Kalmbach's CEO.  This seems like just another loop on a circular spriral downward though. 

I am curious if there will be some kind of notice when a new article is published online?  I find the current layout feels like the bargain blu ray bin at Best Buy, and is rather non-intuitive unless I know exactly what article I want to search for.

 

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 8:36 PM

It would be nice if there was a reduction in the subscription price, since there is a 40% in issues.

Nothing I've seen yet about when they hit the mailbox, or the website, or if it will be easier to navigate.  I'm not great on computer navigation.

And I just renewed until February 2023..... hopefully it will last that long.  Doubt I'll renew after that, and probably drop out if the forum drops.

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Posted by Alerik on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 8:38 PM

Just logged in. How does one create a post?

I too renewed until 2023, and I suspected I might not get all the issues I paid for. And happily.

Almost every issue reminds me of my childhood, building models with friends, but not too late into the night so we could  fire up a night long game of Risk or D&D.

I love getting that print edition. And heck, maybe I will actually build one of the dozens of my hoarded model stash soon.

What is it? The hope and excitement of the box art? The inner builder that knows that he/she can build that perfect model?

I could say that kids today just spend all there time on their phones and don't create. But that is me today too.

I am going to START that B-52 this weekend. 

 

 

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 9:02 PM

Alerik

Just logged in. How does one create a post

 

 

 

 

At the top of the page when you open a catagory, you'll see a create new discussion topic.  Put the subject or title in it, then the post body in the box below.

Pics have to be on a third party site, can't post them directly.  Several sites to choose from, some free, some with various charges.

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Posted by Alerik on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 9:05 PM

Thank you!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 10:18 PM

Create the post in the subject you want though.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 12:18 AM
I've gotten three issues in a rather short period of time; October, September (bagged), November/December, in that order. Hadn't even finished October before I got September.
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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 11:35 AM

Yeah, my question about a possible price reduction was more of a rhetorical question.

The latest issue I've received is October, so I wanted to confirm with other subscribers.

a post-script-

Today's mail just arrived, and with it, the Nov/Dec 2021 issue.  I had a suspicion that as soon as I said I hadn't gotten the mag yet, it'd show up in the next mail.  But yep, there's the announcement, right below the editor's piece entitled, "Always striving to be better."  Interesting juxtaposition.

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Posted by disastermaster on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 11:46 AM

stikpusher

 Tojo72

Don't care what happens to the magazine,but I sure would miss the forum.

Ditto

 

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 11:55 AM

I think it's premature to suggest that the forum is going away.  I don't think it's a sign that The Hobby Is Dying Out, either.  It's not unreasonable to see the hard-copy magazine cut back.  There are probably more people now who just would rather consume digital media than hard-copy, and that number will likely only increase as time passes.

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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 11:55 AM

I read the statement in this months edition.  I was hesitant on renewing based on being locked out of the website for three months as I tried to find a way in and then the magazine issues getting thinner, but did it anyway to get access to the subscriber only section on the website, except I really wish they would eliminate all the pop-up adds and clutter for paid members.  If there is a way to eliminate this, I havn't found it, although I have tried.  

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 12:54 PM

the Baron

I think it's premature to suggest that the forum is going away.  I don't think it's a sign that The Hobby Is Dying Out, either.  It's not unreasonable to see the hard-copy magazine cut back.  There are probably more people now who just would rather consume digital media than hard-copy, and that number will likely only increase as time passes.

 

The cut from ten to six issues annually is not a good sign. It has nothing to do with the hobby itself dying, but it sure sounds like the magazine can't make ends meet as things are now, hence the cutbacks.

The speculation on the forum going away is based on what happened to the Scale Auto folks. That magazine folded and the forum was shut down. Based upon the totality of circumstances, it is not unreasonable to take the cuts as a warning that FSM may be headed for the same fate.

Whether or not people prefer digital to print, that's a whole different, although somewhat related, area. If FSM were to resume the content style of the past over what they do now, then I'd think about a subscription. In print of course. But that style of article seems to have long fallen out of favor.

 

 

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Posted by bluenote on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 3:11 PM

Like most of you, I grew up with magazines.  There was nothing more exciting then seeing a new issue of FSM, video game magazines, music magazines, etc when I was a kid.  That was your ONLY source of information, especially with niche hobbies such as model building.

Now, there is really no use for magazines.  New kit reviews?  You can find a dozen youtube videos as soon as the kit is released.  Painting/building techniques?  There are tons of forums, videos, etc all online.  

This relates to all magazines.  They are redundant in this day and age.  Unfortunately, (or fortunately, depending on your viewpoint), the internet has made magazines obsolete.  There's no use for them anymore.

I do miss magazines, but the world is different now.  FSM will fold, it's just a matter of time unfortunately.  They just can't compete with instant information that the internet provides.  

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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 3:40 PM

Print magazines don't have annoying pop ups and banners that give you a headache navigating around them.

Ok, I promise thats my last whine about the pop ups.  

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Posted by midnightprowler on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 5:49 PM

Very bad customer service and business practice to cut the number of issues and not extend your subscription or offer a refund for the 5 issues you won't get.  Sounds like another magazine I know. 

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Posted by ELR1970 on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 6:20 PM

So... I purchased a 3 year subscription a couple of years ago based on 10 physical magazines a year. If the number of magazines per year gets reduced to, say, 6, or 4, or any other number, you would think that at the very least my subscription would be extended to compensate for the number of magazines I'm losing. Not doing so reeks of indifference to me, and the money I've spent to support FSM. It's very dissappointing, and I certainly will not be renewing my subscription.

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Posted by knox on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 9:53 PM

I feel like I’m experiencing a “Flowers for Algernon” story. 4,6,10,6 issues. I turned 68 in July, but I’ll admit that I prefer digital content. I know I’m in the minority in that respect. I buy the magazine to support FSM. It is really depressing to feel it might be in serious jeopardy.  

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