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Posted by yardbird78 on Saturday, December 31, 2005 5:25 PM

Bill,

I was thinking of Capt Lance Sijan as the third person in addition to Colonel Day and Captain Stockdale, but Colonel Cook certainly qualifies.  I was not aware of his heroism under such trying circumstances.  Thumbs Up [tup]

Your turn,

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Posted by grandadjohn on Saturday, December 31, 2005 9:20 PM
Name all the aircraft including helicopters that have hit(or will in 2006) 50 years or more of service?
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Posted by wdolson2 on Sunday, January 1, 2006 3:16 AM
 yardbird78 wrote:

Bill,

I was thinking of Capt Lance Sijan as the third person in addition to Colonel Day and Captain Stockdale, but Colonel Cook certainly qualifies.  I was not aware of his heroism under such trying circumstances.  Thumbs Up [tup]

Your turn,

Darwin



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What pre-war national hero, who was denied a commission in the USAAF (for political reasons), dramatically extended the range of the P-38 and flew several combat missions and even shot down a few enemy aircraft?  Technically he was just supposed to be showing front line pilots the new techniques.

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Posted by wdolson2 on Sunday, January 1, 2006 3:25 AM
 grandadjohn wrote:
Name all the aircraft including helicopters that have hit(or will in 2006) 50 years or more of service?


I can't think of any helicopters that have been in service that long.  I know the B-52 has been around more than 50 years and I believe the C-135 is pretty close to 50.  The Phantom is a little young.  I believe the prototype flew in 1959.

I was always pretty good with history, but lousy with dates.

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Posted by yardbird78 on Sunday, January 1, 2006 4:44 AM

Here's a list of the recipients: http://www.nampows.org/#MOH

What pre-war national hero, who was denied a commission in the USAAF (for political reasons), dramatically extended the range of the P-38 and flew several combat missions and even shot down a few enemy aircraft?  Technically he was just supposed to be showing front line pilots the new techniques.Bill

Charles Lindbergh

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Posted by davros on Sunday, January 1, 2006 4:57 AM

 wdolson2 wrote:
What pre-war national hero, who was denied a commission in the USAAF (for political reasons), dramatically extended the range of the P-38 and flew several combat missions and even shot down a few enemy aircraft?  Technically he was just supposed to be showing front line pilots the new techniques.

Bill

That would be Charles Lindbergh; first man to fly the Atlantic solo. If I remember correctly the political reasons were that he was considered a white supremacist and Nazi supporter.

Edit..  have to research faster next time.. Got beaten to my reply.

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Posted by osher on Sunday, January 1, 2006 5:35 AM
 grandadjohn wrote:
Name all the aircraft including helicopters that have hit(or will in 2006) 50 years or more of service?


I assume you mean active service in an AF, and not just demonstrations, etc
Mig-15
DC-3
TU-4 (in that, TU-94 'Bear' was based on it...does that count?)
A-4 Skyhawk
Canberra
C-130 Hercules

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Posted by willuride on Sunday, January 1, 2006 9:24 AM

 osher wrote:
 grandadjohn wrote:
Name all the aircraft including helicopters that have hit(or will in 2006) 50 years or more of service?


I assume you mean active service in an AF, and not just demonstrations, etc
Mig-15
DC-3
TU-4 (in that, TU-94 'Bear' was based on it...does that count?)
A-4 Skyhawk
Canberra
C-130 Hercules

 

Don't forget the ch-47 Chinook, and possibly the Ch-53 or some variant?

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Posted by grandadjohn on Sunday, January 1, 2006 12:33 PM
You guys are pretty good with the fixed wing aircraft(and there are alot), but not so good with the helo's the Chinook's first flight was in 1961 and the 53 is newer than that
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Posted by DPD1 on Sunday, January 1, 2006 1:10 PM
I was going to say H-3, but I think that's a few years short.

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Sunday, January 1, 2006 2:45 PM
How about the Alouette II, it's still in service in several countries.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 1, 2006 3:50 PM
I like this quiz thing it's great for the brain....ok..in what war was the airplane first used specifically as a tool to bomb a MAJOR city? what aicraft was used?
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Posted by smokinguns3 on Sunday, January 1, 2006 3:55 PM
Ok now we haveto wait are turn the person that get the first answer right get to pick the next question so i think we are on what aircraft are still in service after 50yrs incuding helo's
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Posted by MontanaCowboy on Sunday, January 1, 2006 5:02 PM

ATTENTION!

 

Your are not allowed to ask a question unless you were the first to answer the previous question correctly.

Right now we have at least 3 people asking questions. Let's edit those posts so people don't get confused.

 

Yardbird, your turn.

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Posted by Matt90 on Sunday, January 1, 2006 5:53 PM
That would be the German Gotha that bombed London during 1915.
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Posted by Matt90 on Sunday, January 1, 2006 5:56 PM
OK, name the first German jet fighter. I do not want the research plane, I want the fighter.
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Posted by yardbird78 on Monday, January 2, 2006 1:35 AM

Since I have already had the opportunity to ask two questions, I'll defer to the other two active questions.  This is fun string and I enjoy the challenge.  Thanks for starting it.

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Posted by Jeebus on Monday, January 2, 2006 2:42 AM

The Me-262, was the 1st jet fighter in the world, HARDER.

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Monday, January 2, 2006 7:56 AM
 Jeebus wrote:

The Me-262, was the 1st jet fighter in the world, HARDER.

Sorry, but your wrong, it was the Heinkel He-280

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_280

 

 

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Monday, January 2, 2006 8:10 AM
can I ask a question now, or should the anwser be confirmed?

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Posted by Matt90 on Monday, January 2, 2006 9:01 AM
Yep, He-280 is right. You got pwned Jeebus.
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Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, January 2, 2006 10:15 AM
I don't know. The He-280 was the first jet designed as a fighter true, but it never began mass production, was plagued with problems and never flew in a real fight. Sounds like a research plane to me!

According to Wikipedia, and thereby pointing out the difficulty of using Wikipedia as a reference tool, the Me-262 was the first jet fighter:

The first jet fighter was the Messerschmitt Me 262, piloted by Fritz Wendel.


Since your question specifically excluded research planes, it is arguable if Jeebus truly got pwned!


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Posted by osher on Monday, January 2, 2006 10:33 AM
 Bgrigg wrote:
I don't know. The He-280 was the first jet designed as a fighter true, but it never began mass production, was plagued with problems and never flew in a real fight. Sounds like a research plane to me!

Since your question specifically excluded research planes, it is arguable if Jeebus truly got pwned!


I don't know...it was produced (in pre-production variants) and it could be used as a fighter, if needed.  The fact it never saw combat is irrelevent IMHO, as many fighters never saw combat, and as for problems, I think we can all name a few aircraft that never were fully developed!  It certainly was more than a research aircraft though.
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Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, January 2, 2006 11:13 AM
No, you misunderstand. Nine does not make a production run. The first airframe didn't even have engines, only ballast, and could only glide. The last three airframes also never had engines, which would make them rather unsuitable for use in combat. They used three different engines for the other five airframes, all of which had problems. I'll repeat: Sounds like a research plane to me!

So far I can find all of these references:

From Wikipedia Heinkel He 280
The Heinkel He 280 was the first jet-powered fighter aircraft built in the world


Which is bunk, the He 178 was!

Also from Wikipedia Me 262
The first jet fighter was the Messerschmitt Me 262, piloted by Fritz Wendel.


and from the History Learning Site on Jet Engines
However, the Gloster Meteor was not the first jet fighter. This claim goes to the Heinkel He 178 which first flew on August 24th 1939


And from Answers.com List of Jet Aircraft of WWII
Axis

German

German operational jet aircraft

    * Messerschmitt Me 262 – the first operational jet powered aircraft.
    * Heinkel He 162 – second jet engined fighter aircraft to be fielded by the Luftwaffe
    * Arado Ar 234 – The world's first operational jet powered bomber.
    * V1 Flying Bomb – was the first modern guided missile used in wartime and the first cruise missile.

German experimental and test jet aircraft

    * Heinkel He 178 – was the world's first aircraft to fly under turbojet power, and the first practical jet plane.
    * Heinkel He 280 – first jet-powered fighter aircraft built in the world.


Which clearly lists the He 280 as experimental.

My argument is that the first production run, non-prototype, operational, flew in combat, built as multiple variant jet-fighter is the Me 262.

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Monday, January 2, 2006 2:31 PM

 Bgrigg wrote:

From Wikipedia Heinkel He 280

The Heinkel He 280 was the first jet-powered fighter aircraft built in the world


Which is bunk, the He 178 was!
And from Answers.com List of Jet Aircraft of WWII
Axis

German

German operational jet aircraft

    * Messerschmitt Me 262 – the first operational jet powered aircraft.
    * Heinkel He 162 – second jet engined fighter aircraft to be fielded by the Luftwaffe
    * Arado Ar 234 – The world's first operational jet powered bomber.
    * V1 Flying Bomb – was the first modern guided missile used in wartime and the first cruise missile.

German experimental and test jet aircraft

    * Heinkel He 178 – was the world's first aircraft to fly under turbojet power, and the first practical jet plane.
    * Heinkel He 280 – first jet-powered fighter aircraft built in the world.


Which clearly lists the He 280 as experimental.

My argument is that the first production run, non-prototype, operational, flew in combat, built as multiple variant jet-fighter is the Me 262.

I agree that the He-280 wasn't a production or a operationel aircraft. But it was a fighter, it wasn't designed to be a research aircraft such as the He-178.

And the question was, what was the first german jet engined fighter. Not "what was the first german operational and/or production jet powered fighter.

I therefore think the awnser should be the He-280. It was designed as a fighter (with a 3x 20mm arnement), it was flown, it was jet powered, jet was german and it was build and designed earlier then the me-262.

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Posted by Matt90 on Monday, January 2, 2006 2:45 PM
   I wanted the He-280 becuase it flew before the Me-262, and was a fighter, and did not enter service because of politics.
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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Monday, January 2, 2006 3:06 PM

 Matt90 wrote:
   I wanted the He-280 becuase it flew before the Me-262, and was a fighter, and did not enter service because of politics.

So then I can ask a question:

Name two types fighter planes that where used by the french airforce in 1940 and where made by a foreign (a non-french) manufacturer? 

Please note the the types, at least, must have been delivered before the fall of France, so no p-38's or p-39's etc. (which where on order but never deliverd)

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Posted by Matt90 on Monday, January 2, 2006 3:12 PM
Mauraine Saunier 406 and Dontuine (wrong, I know) 520. Oh wait, where? or were? If it's where I'm wrong.
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Posted by willuride on Monday, January 2, 2006 3:51 PM

 Bgrigg wrote:
No, you misunderstand. Nine does not make a production run. The first airframe didn't even have engines, only ballast, and could only glide. The last three airframes also never had engines, which would make them rather unsuitable for use in combat. They used three different engines for the other five airframes, all of which had problems. I'll repeat: Sounds like a research plane to me!

So far I can find all of these references:

From Wikipedia Heinkel He 280
The Heinkel He 280 was the first jet-powered fighter aircraft built in the world


Which is bunk, the He 178 was!

Also from Wikipedia Me 262
The first jet fighter was the Messerschmitt Me 262, piloted by Fritz Wendel.


and from the History Learning Site on Jet Engines
However, the Gloster Meteor was not the first jet fighter. This claim goes to the Heinkel He 178 which first flew on August 24th 1939


And from Answers.com List of Jet Aircraft of WWII
Axis

German

German operational jet aircraft

    * Messerschmitt Me 262 – the first operational jet powered aircraft.
    * Heinkel He 162 – second jet engined fighter aircraft to be fielded by the Luftwaffe
    * Arado Ar 234 – The world's first operational jet powered bomber.
    * V1 Flying Bomb – was the first modern guided missile used in wartime and the first cruise missile.

German experimental and test jet aircraft

    * Heinkel He 178 – was the world's first aircraft to fly under turbojet power, and the first practical jet plane.
    * Heinkel He 280 – first jet-powered fighter aircraft built in the world.


Which clearly lists the He 280 as experimental.

My argument is that the first production run, non-prototype, operational, flew in combat, built as multiple variant jet-fighter is the Me 262.

 

I have to agree with Bill here!!  This is someone who has done his homework!!  It does say you do not want the research plane, but the fighter, therefore, the Me 262 would be the first jet "fighter"

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Posted by wdolson2 on Monday, January 2, 2006 4:03 PM
 davros wrote:

That would be Charles Lindbergh; first man to fly the Atlantic solo. If I remember correctly the political reasons were that he was considered a white supremacist and Nazi supporter.

Edit..  have to research faster next time.. Got beaten to my reply.



Yardbird got it first, but both of you are right.  Lindbergh was a very vocal isolationist before Pearl Harbor and Roosevelt hated him for it.  I've read Roosevelt personally denied his commission when he volunteered. 

Bill
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