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Posted by wdolson2 on Friday, January 13, 2006 3:35 PM
 rangerj wrote:

A drill sgt. told this story while we were having a few cold glasses of milk at the NCO club. He was ordered to assist in teaching a company of brand new WAC recruits close order drill. He forgot just how new they were and while getting them "formed up" gave the order "ladies pick up your dress". They all did exactly as ordered.


I bet that was embarassing!


In July of 1957 an new transcontinental (CA to NY) flight record was set. Who was the pilot and what was the aircraft type? The publicity landed the pilot on a very popular "game show" (at that time). What was the name of the game show? Bonus points if you can name the wingman.



John Glenn and I would guess What's My Line"

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Posted by rangerj on Friday, January 13, 2006 8:10 PM
That is a good start WD. John Glenn was the pilot. Now what about the specific variant of the aircraft and the game show.
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Posted by Jeebus on Friday, January 13, 2006 8:34 PM
B-58, and Ive got a secret.
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Posted by grandadjohn on Friday, January 13, 2006 9:09 PM
Plane was a F-8
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Posted by Joe Hegedus on Saturday, January 14, 2006 8:17 AM
 rangerj wrote:
That is a good start WD. John Glenn was the pilot. Now what about the specific variant of the aircraft and the game show.


Don't know (or really care) about the game show, but I believe the jet was an F8U-1P.
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Posted by rangerj on Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:17 AM
B-58?  John Glenn is a Marine.
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Posted by rangerj on Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:30 AM
Yes the aircraft was a photo recon F-8 Crusader which was one of the early aircraft capable of.sustained supersonic flight. The game show is just trivia, but the notoriety is claimed by some to be responsible for getting John Glenn into the next phase of his career, that is the space program. The game show was the $64,000 Question. As for the wingman, he has been mentioned by John Glenn when discussing the historic flight by I have not been able to document the pilot. According to John Glenn both aircraft were recon F-8s.   
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Posted by Jeebus on Saturday, January 14, 2006 5:51 PM
 rangerj wrote:
B-58?  John Glenn is a Marine.
Doh
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Posted by yardbird78 on Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:35 PM

 Jeebus wrote:
 rangerj wrote:
B-58?  John Glenn is a Marine.
Doh

Who also flew F-86 Sabre Jets for the US Air Force in Korea as an exchange pilot.  His plane had the side art "Mig Mad Marine" painted along the left fuselage side, plus his wife's name.

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Posted by rangerj on Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:45 PM
The script on the F-86 reads Lyn (sic), Annie, Dave for his daughter wife and son. He also flew Panthers for the Marines in Korea and that included some flights with a famous baseball player as his wingman. He and Annnie currently get around in a Beech Queen Air. I got to meet them at a book signing a year or so ago. He is magnanonous gentleman and true American hero. His favorite combat missions were flying ground support for the "mud Marines". As a former gound pounder I can really appreciate that.
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Posted by yardbird78 on Monday, January 16, 2006 4:57 PM

Project Bullet involved two Vought F8U-1P photo reconnaissance versions of the Crusader.  John Glenn was the primary pilot and his wingman was Navy Lt Charles Demmler, (who damaged his air refueling probe and had to make an emergency landing in New Mexico.)  Glenn appeared on the TV show Name That Tune.

I'll open the next question up to anyone who wants to ask one.

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Posted by rudy_102 on Monday, January 16, 2006 5:50 PM
 yardbird78 wrote:

Project Bullet involved two Vought F8U-1P photo reconnaissance versions of the Crusader.  John Glenn was the primary pilot and his wingman was Navy Lt Charles Demmler, (who damaged his air refueling probe and had to make an emergency landing in New Mexico.)  Glenn appeared on the TV show Name That Tune.

I'll open the next question up to anyone who wants to ask one.

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kay, my question: Name two Polish RAF aces

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Posted by wdolson2 on Monday, January 16, 2006 6:32 PM
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kay, my question: Name two Polish RAF aces



There were a number of them.  Stanislaw Skalski was the top RAF scorer.  Gabraski was of Polish heritage, but he was an American citizen.  Gabraski had a lot of contact with the Poles in the RAF and slipped a number of them into the 56th FG somewhat illegally.  Zempke looked the other way though.

The top scoring Polish citizen flying with the 56th was Boleslaw Gladych. 

Gabraski is the top scoring Pole, whether citizen or just herritage.

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Posted by Matt90 on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:17 AM
I read Gabrieski's book recently (like yesterday) and he names Andersz and Sawickz as aces from the 315th Squadron.
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Posted by T_Terrific on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:23 PM

OK, then this string is open to anyone asking the next question!

Including me Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by T_Terrific on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:01 PM

And so, and if no one objects, and I may go next, how many aces did the RAF American Eagle squadron have, and who were they?

 

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Posted by T_Terrific on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:03 PM

Hints:

  1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarves were not amongst them Big Smile [:D]
  2. They flew British airplanes.
  3. This was during WWII

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Sunday, January 29, 2006 3:02 AM

Is this right T_T and this where i got the info http://acesofww2.com/Eagle_Sq/eagleSq.htm

Gentle "Don"

'Dominic Salvatore Gentile  
 (2 w/133sq) * * * * * *

23.83 - 22 (+ 6 OTG)
 
 Duane Willard Beeson
 (POW 5apr44) * * * * *

19.5 (+ 4.5 OTG, ? w/71sq)
 
 "Goody"

James Alexander Goodson
 (POW 15jun44) * * * *

15 (+ 15 OTG, 0 w/133sq)
 
 "Don"

Donald James Mathew Blakeslee  
 (2 w/133sq) * * *

14.5   (+ 2 OTG)
 
 George Carpenter
 (POW 18apr44) * *

13.83 (+ 4 OTG, 0? w/121sq)
 
 John Joseph Lynch
 13 (1 w/71sq)
 
 "Red" "Mac"

Carroll Warren McColpin
 (5.5 w/71sq, 2 w/133sq)

12   * * * * * *
 
(Bill Dunn - The 1st American Ace of WW2)
 "Billy" "Poppy"

William Robert Dunn
 (3 w/ 406th FG & 2 FTG)

10.5 (5.5 w/71sq) *
 
 "Steve"

Spiros Nikolas Pisanos
 (became a US citizen in
UK during the war. A 1st)

10 (0 w/71sq. Greek) *
 
     

  "Gus"

 Gregory Augustus Daymond    
 (was originally credited as
the 1st US Ace of WW2)

7 (all w/71sq) *
 
 "Gord" "Pete"

Chesley Gordon Peterson
 * * *

7 (6 +3prob & 6dam w/71sq)
 
 Reade Franklin Tilley 7 (0 w/121sq) *
 
 "Dixie"

Richard Lear Alexander
 (POW 30may44)

6 (2 w/133sq.) * *
 
 Roy Williams Evans (POW 14feb45)

6    (1 Question [?] w/121 sq) *
 
 Selden Raymond Edner  (POW 8mar44)

5 (all w/121sq.) *
 
 "Barry"

Jackson Barrett Mahon
 (POW 19aug42, Dieppe)

5 (4 w/121sq.) * *
 

Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by T_Terrific on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:52 PM

You got it gun!

Sorry I took so long to get back.

Make it one where we don't get into the "spitting contest" like they seem to enjoy getting into on Trivia 2, O.K.?

If this string gets too long, tell me and I can start another for those of us who do not care to have tedeous reference guides that we paid out big bucks for as some seem to be into.

Tom T Cowboy [C):-)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:12 PM
Far as I'm concerned, if you can't answer the question from personal knowledge, as a point of honor don't bother trying.  My mother-in-law can Google well enough to find out the size of Richthofen's underwear or the plug gap on an F2G Corsair.  what's the skill in that?

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Posted by T_Terrific on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:27 PM

 Stephan Wilkinson wrote:
Far as I'm concerned, if you can't answer the question from personal knowledge, as a point of honor don't bother trying.  My mother-in-law can Google well enough to find out the size of Richthofen's underwear or the plug gap on an F2G Corsair.  what's the skill in that?

Stephan

I prefer to use a combination of experience, recollection of information as received from others, as well as from my broad reading.

I seek to limit my topics to those that can be reasonably verifiable, i.e., through a commonly available and convenient source to all, not just a few.

If there is a website that has the information, in my opinion, so much the better, as it helps me show clear documentation to prove my point.

As for your mother-in-law, Steve, in fact it sounds as though she has above-average intellegence as well as research skills, and she would be more then welcome to join in here if she desires to, providing that with her ability she would find it both interesting and challenging.Big Smile [:D]

Tom TCowboy [C):-)]

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:53 PM
"...experience, recollection of information as received from others, as well as broad reading..." is the definition of "personal knowledge."  I'm not saying it's unfair to look up exactly how many victories Richard Bong has, I'm just saying it's unfair and pointless to take a question that you don't have the faintest idea what the answer is, and in 10 minutes of Internet research become a bogus expert.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 6:58 AM

 Stephan Wilkinson wrote:
"...experience, recollection of information as received from others, as well as broad reading..." is the definition of "personal knowledge."  I'm not saying it's unfair to look up exactly how many victories Richard Bong has, I'm just saying it's unfair and pointless to take a question that you don't have the faintest idea what the answer is, and in 10 minutes of Internet research become a bogus expert.

Stephan

I'm right there with you, Stephan. What's the point of a trivia game if you look up the answers, or even worse, CALL SOMEBODY! Kinda silly, isn't it?

You see, there's a difference between a 'game', and a legitimate question requiring research. If all you do is google something up while playing the game, then that defeats the entire purpose. Now, if you answer a question, and there is a dispute over the correctness of the answer, then THAT is the time to consult the experts.

But then some people just don't get it... 

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Posted by yardbird78 on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 10:50 AM

Steve and Scott,

 

Well said.

 

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Posted by T_Terrific on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 12:00 PM
 scottw76051 wrote:

You see, there's a difference between a 'game', and a legitimate question requiring research. If all you do is google something up while playing the game, then that defeats the entire purpose. Now, if you answer a question, and there is a dispute over the correctness of the answer, then THAT is the time to consult the experts.

But then some people just don't get it... 

This is where you and I disagree Scott.

The two times I "called the expert" was in order to see if this was an "legitimate question", that is, one that there really is an answer to. In both cases form my experience and recollection, neither question "added up", so that was when I called someone and found out that I "was not alone"!

The first was when Bill asked a "loaded question", i.e., one that could not be correctly answered by anybody because nobody really knows who is the first plastic model airplane kit maker in the U.S. Notice, when I challenged him on this he changed the question to a more honest one, i.e., who were the first plastic airplane kit makers in the U.S., and what were they.

Now Scott, I detect some possible resentment on your part because I also questioned the legitimacy of yours also, and maybe you and others here are "old buddies" and therefore cannot stand someone who "dares to question your question", but in fact I did initiate this forum, and if a question looks "funny" to me, I feel I have the right to inquire about it.

I mean you seem "all bent outa shape" and Bill seems to be OK with this-why are you so touchy and he is not?

Notice, I honestly and openly questioned you about it, not "sneak mailing" to others trying to undermine your credibility. If you can't handle being questioned about your question, then that tells me that you might have a problem in really backing up your answers. And if you can't back up your answers with any other documentation for anyone else, then anybody can come in here say anything is so and keep the forum tied up for weeks with a bogus question. I mean, before I ask a question, I ensure my "ducks are in a row" OK?

Really if there are those who are "shooting from the seat of the pants" with arbitrary questions, and I make them uncomfortible by objective questioning, then I do not feel that is my problem.

Now if there are some few here who want to "run away" with this forum with some little cutsie "inside questions" that are of fuzzy origin, and you resent me possibly "monkey wrenching" this type of thing, OK, I'll stop bothering you all, but I would have thought this could have been kept on a more open basis for others to join in what should be simply a fun thing, and not be resented beacuse they had the ability to look up the answer.

Later

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 12:34 PM
 T_Terrific wrote:
 scottw76051 wrote:

You see, there's a difference between a 'game', and a legitimate question requiring research. If all you do is google something up while playing the game, then that defeats the entire purpose. Now, if you answer a question, and there is a dispute over the correctness of the answer, then THAT is the time to consult the experts.

But then some people just don't get it... 

This is where you and I disagree Scott.

The two times I "called the expert" was in order to see if this was an "legitimate question", that is, one that there really is an answer to. In both cases form my experience and recollection, neither question "added up", so that was when I called someone and found out that I "was not alone"!

The first was when Bill asked a "loaded question", i.e., one that could not be correctly answered by anybody because nobody really knows who is the first plastic model airplane kit maker in the U.S. Notice, when I challenged him on this he changed the question to a more honest one, i.e., who were the first plastic airplane kit makers in the U.S., and what were they.

Now Scott, I detect some possible resentment on your part because I also questioned the legitimacy of yours also, and maybe you and others here are "old buddies" and therefore cannot stand someone who "dares to question your question", but in fact I did initiate this forum, and if a question looks "funny" to me, I feel I have the right to inquire about it.

Notice, I honestly and openly questioned you about it, not "sneak mailing" to others trying to undermine your credibility. If you can't handle being questioned about your question, then that tells me that you might have a problem in really backing up your answers. And if you can't back up your answers with any other documentation for anyone else, then anybody can come in here say anything is so and keep the forum tied up for weeks with a bogus question. I mean, before I ask a question, I ensure my "ducks are in a row" OK?

Really if there are those who are "shooting from the seat of the pants" with arbitrary questions, and I make them uncomfortible by objective questioning, then I do not feel that is my problem.

Now if there are some few here who want to "run away" with this forum with some little cutsie "inside questions" that are of fuzzy origin, and you resent me possibly "monkey wrenching" this type of thing, OK, I'll stop bothering you all, but I would have thought this could have been kept on a more open basis for others to join in what should be simply a fun thing, and not be resented beacuse they had the ability to look up the answer.

Later

 

    Tom T Cowboy [C):-)]

No, I don't have any "old buddies" here, as you can easily see, I am new to the board. And no, I certainly don't resent being questioned. I have supreme confidence in myself and welcome any challenge you can present, however lame and pathetic it may be. I meant nothing by what I said other than EXACTLY what I said; that it is somewhat embarrassing to yourself to google up answers when participating in a trivia "game". It is even more embarrassing  for you to admit that you are actually calling Burns and taking minutes away from someone else's life to answer a trivia question on an internet site . I am not the only one who obviously feels this way, as I can tell every time I run across something you post. A firestorm of criticism, ridicule and derision typically follows you like a hungry puppy everywhere you go on this board. You whine like a child when a post doesn't fit your silly little paradigm of what it should be. You are paranoid to the point that it is well beyond pitiful. Instead of playing the game like everyone else, you try to manipulate everyone to play the game the way YOU want it to be played. Guess what? We ain't playing it your way. So you just keep playing your own little games in your own little mind, and you keep believing that you're the only one who's right, and we'll keep snickering about it. Deal?  

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Posted by wdolson2 on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 5:28 PM
 T_Terrific wrote:

The first was when Bill asked a "loaded question", i.e., one that could not be correctly answered by anybody because nobody really knows who is the first plastic model airplane kit maker in the U.S. Notice, when I challenged him on this he changed the question to a more honest one, i.e., who were the first plastic airplane kit makers in the U.S., and what were they.


I never had any intent on asking a loaded question.  It was my error for not asking a question that was worded accurately.  When people were struggling with the question, I clarified.


Now Scott, I detect some possible resentment on your part because I also questioned the legitimacy of yours also, and maybe you and others here are "old buddies" and therefore cannot stand someone who "dares to question your question", but in fact I did initiate this forum, and if a question looks "funny" to me, I feel I have the right to inquire about it.

I mean you seem "all bent outa shape" and Bill seems to be OK with this-why are you so touchy and he is not?


Silence does not equate to agreement.

Since you're sort of dragging me into this, I guess I'll speak up...

Tom, I don't know you.  I've been on many mailing lists and a few forums.  Sometimes somebody gets off on the wrong foot, but then settles in and turns out to be a fine person.

In my opinion, you seem to be taking this trivia thing too seriously.  We're just sitting around quizzing each other about modeling and aircraft subjects.  I can only speak for myself, but I don't have my ego wrapped up in this.  If I get stumped by a question, so what?  I look forward to somebody enlightning me.

I did find it odd that you would go to the trouble to call people about a question.  Especially people who aren't your friends.  Then you acted defensive like we were going to doubt you had called John Burns.  His phone number is easy to find.  He runs an ad in every issue of the IPMS Journal.  I've talked to him too, though it was a few years ago.

I didn't do a very good job of phrasing the question and it ended up too difficult.  I tried giving some hints and clarifying when I realized this.  The impression I got from you was that you assumed I was doing this deliberately to trip people up, or something else nefarious.  The cigar is just the cigar.  I had no nefarious motive.  I don't really care enough to argue about it (and I can argue quite actively when I do care).

One lesson I learned, way back when I was on a BBS before the net, was that electronic forms of written communication are terrible at conveying emotion.  It's tough to know how another feels, especially if you've never met them.

I've told you how I feel about this game.  It's a pass time that means very little to me.  The impression you've left with me (which I acknowledge may be wrong) is that you have a touch of paranoia and you're first assumption is that people are up to something malevolent instead of just tripping over their fingers and not phrasing what they mean very well.

I fully realize that impression might be wrong and I'm open to changing it if I see different behavior over time.  I'm not one to go by first impressions alone.

Now that I've said my piece, I'm going to drop this.  I might continue to contribute to the trivia, but I'm not interested in arguing about the answers.

Bill
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Posted by T_Terrific on Thursday, February 2, 2006 12:04 PM

" Deal"?  

Just to set the record straight for myself as well, I do not make deals with schoolyard bullies, moles, trolls, would-be barnyard roosters, or anyone else that has an obvious "chip on his shoulder" for me to knock off.

I am not necessarily referring to anyone in particular here, but if the shoe fits someone, you know my personal policy.

  Tom T Cowboy [C):-)]

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Posted by T_Terrific on Thursday, February 2, 2006 12:18 PM

 wdolson2 wrote:


Now that I've said my piece, I'm going to drop this.  I might continue to contribute to the trivia, but I'm not interested in arguing about the answers.

Bill

Neither am I Bill, and I wish to thank you for our candid statement.

In my feeble attempt to apologize, I have sent you a PM, instead of tying up this forum with all sorts of non-applicable/off-topic "dirty laundry".

  Tom T Cowboy [C):-)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 2, 2006 1:08 PM

"moles"? You are obviously a very bitter and paranoid old man, and for that I truly feel sorry for you. I am also sorry you have to send me private messages accusing me of being from some other group that is out to get you. Do you really think you're that important?

Tom, I hope that you are able to get a hold on yourself, or get help to do it. Your angst and psychotic paranoia is going to get unhealthy in a hurry if you don't find some way to curb it.

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