SEARCH FINESCALE.COM

Enter keywords or a search phrase below:

ROG ?

2561 views
27 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    August 2013
ROG ?
Posted by Jay Jay on Thursday, July 30, 2015 12:49 PM

I just went to Michael's craft store armed with my 50% off coupon looking for the much talked about Revell of Germany kits.  Odd that what it said on all the boxes was ;  Revell  2011, made in Poland, packaged and printed in China.  I thought these things where good because they where made in Germany .  What gives as I found no referance to "Germany"   and how does one tell if it's a ROG kit ?

 

 

 

 

 

 I'm finally retired. Now time I got, money I don't.

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, July 30, 2015 1:03 PM

The packaging is different. It's usually an end opening box, and there's a lot of dark blue-turquoise in the graphics. Usually German too.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Thursday, July 30, 2015 1:06 PM

ROG kits are in a blue box. I find it funny that they are made in Poland, shipped to China for packing, and then shipped back again. Funny, but sad.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, July 30, 2015 3:27 PM

Revell Germany armor kits usually come in a black end opening box. The company does A LOT of "mold swapping", so to speak. The kit in a RoG box may be one of their original moldings, or it could originate from Italeri, Hasegawa, Dragon, Matchbox, Revellogram, or some other company. Do a little research on a kit to see what its' origins are if those things matter to you. Sometimes you can find the same kit in a different companies boxing for a better price.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Thursday, July 30, 2015 3:48 PM

As we estabished in another thread recently, almost no plastic kits are molded in the U.S. or Western Europe any more. And the swapping of labels is too common and complicated to sort out.

The most recent Revell of Germany aircraft kits are among the best on the market. But the company also sells ex-Matchbox kits whose molds are forty years old, and ex-Frog kits that are even older.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:08 PM

Stik, thanks for pointing that out about the armour kits, I was just thinking aircraft. Seeing as I am just about to finish a Revell warrior, I should have thought of that.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:11 PM

Revell Germany original molding kit examples

Revell Germany boxings- other company molded kits

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:13 PM

Bish

Stik, thanks for pointing that out about the armour kits, I was just thinking aircraft. Seeing as I am just about to finish a Revell warrior, I should have thought of that.

Bish, looking at their boxings that I posted above, I think the box color varies by genre of subject...Hmm

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:28 PM

stikpusher

Bish

Stik, thanks for pointing that out about the armour kits, I was just thinking aircraft. Seeing as I am just about to finish a Revell warrior, I should have thought of that.

Bish, looking at their boxings that I posted above, I think the box color varies by genre of subject...Hmm

Indeed, not something I had thought of before. But seeing them lined up like that makes it pretty clear.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:45 PM

Hello!

Gentlemen, get used to it, it's 21st century - and molded in Poland means high quality now! So please enjoy and have a nice day

A Proud Polishman

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, July 30, 2015 5:00 PM

No disrespect intended to you or your countrymen Pawel. I just think that many of us Americans bemoan the loss of the craftsmen and production jobs here. The late 20th/21st Century global economy has caused an exodus of those things here.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, July 31, 2015 12:49 AM

Pawel, I know what you mean, the stuff coming out of Eastern Europe is certainly not cheap and nasty. In fact I think Eastern Europe certainly has the edge when it come to AM, companies like Eduard and Aires for example. But as Stik says, like the US, we have lost a lot of high skilled manufacturing in the UK as well. Airfix kits are now built in India. And unfortunately, that's not based on superior engineering skills.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    August 2013
Posted by Jay Jay on Friday, July 31, 2015 7:57 AM

I didn't intend to open up another can of worms guys. I simply wanted to insure that I was buying a quality kit is all, but I do find all your commnets interesting and informative.

 

 

 

 

 

 I'm finally retired. Now time I got, money I don't.

  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Friday, July 31, 2015 8:11 AM

Stik, Bish, Jay Jay - don't worry, I'm not offended. Just wanted to underscore the fact, that Polish products that have to compete on the global market, must keep a certain quality to price relation to have any chance - so don't worry. On every box of Revell there's the address of the manufacturer, and that says Germany, all right - you might want to check that to see if a model was issued as Revell Germany or Revell USA. By the way, you can write that address in Germany to order free replacement parts for the ROG models - I tried that two or three times and the service is very good. It's just around Christmas they get enough orders  to swamp them until April - that's what a nice German lady working there explained to me one time.

Anyhow, have fun with those ROG kits, and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Illinois: Hive of Scum and Villany
Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Friday, July 31, 2015 8:42 AM

Pawel

Hello!

Gentlemen, get used to it, it's 21st century - and molded in Poland means high quality now! So please enjoy and have a nice day

A Proud Polishman

Not just in plastic models.
I see a lot of Polish made metal working accessories being sold in the USA and can hardly wait for the next IMTS show
to see what else is being made in Poland.
  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, July 31, 2015 8:47 AM

I was thrown off for a moment by the thread title.  I come from the flying models world originally, and the abbreviation ROG means "rise off ground", a model with landing gear capable of allowing a takeoff from the ground vs hand launching in air :-)  Anyone else old enough to remember the ROGs?

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, July 31, 2015 10:36 AM

Jay Jay, don't worry, no can of worms opened. As to buying a quality kit, as mentioned before, if your not sure, it is worth doing a little checking. You could be buying one of there new mold really nice kits or a re boxing. While some of these are still nice, and often the only option, they might not be what your expecting. I find scale mates a really useful place for that sort of thing.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    May 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Friday, July 31, 2015 10:44 AM

Can anyone explain the relationship, if any, between Revell of Germany and Revell USA? Just curious.

  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Friday, July 31, 2015 10:46 AM

Don - Oh yeah! I remember in particular a rubber-powered plane called the "Little Dipper." I think it was made by a company called Northeastern (but I may be wrong about that). It came in a plastic bag for 25 cents, and had a big, red propeller and a neat little plastic clip that held the wings at the right dihedral. The landing gear consisted of a shaped piece of wire with red plastic wheels on the ends, which was held to the nose by the same piece of red plastic that held the propeller bearing.

The Little Dipper might - might - be able to rise a foot or so in the air after a takeoff run of twenty or thirty feet - after which the rubber band would be exhausted and it would land. It worked a whole lot better if you threw it, though.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, July 31, 2015 11:04 AM

Greg

Can anyone explain the relationship, if any, between Revell of Germany and Revell USA? Just curious.

As of 2012, they are both owned by the same company, Hobbico. The original Revell was found in the US in 1943. Revell Germany was a subsidiary founded in the 50's. They merged at some point, they split then merged again.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    May 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Friday, July 31, 2015 11:17 AM

Thank you for the explanation, Bish.

  • Member since
    September 2006
  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Friday, July 31, 2015 11:30 AM

"Revell of Germany" doesn't mean "Made in Germany", it's just that the company is headquartered there.  It's sort of the successor to the old Revell European office, though not through direct descent.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Cameron, Texas
Posted by Texgunner on Friday, July 31, 2015 11:34 AM

jtilley

Don - Oh yeah! I remember in particular a rubber-powered plane called the "Little Dipper." I think it was made by a company called Northeastern (but I may be wrong about that). It came in a plastic bag for 25 cents, and had a big, red propeller and a neat little plastic clip that held the wings at the right dihedral. The landing gear consisted of a shaped piece of wire with red plastic wheels on the ends, which was held to the nose by the same piece of red plastic that held the propeller bearing.

The Little Dipper might - might - be able to rise a foot or so in the air after a takeoff run of twenty or thirty feet - after which the rubber band would be exhausted and it would land. It worked a whole lot better if you threw it, though.

Yes!  I remember those, probably had one I imagine.  Thanks for the memories!

Gary


"All you mugs need to get busy building, and post pics!"

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Friday, July 31, 2015 12:08 PM

I had a few of those "little dippers" once upon a time.... I usually threw mine.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    May 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Friday, July 31, 2015 1:12 PM

the Baron

"Revell of Germany" doesn't mean "Made in Germany", it's just that the company is headquartered there.  It's sort of the successor to the old Revell European office, though not through direct descent.

Thanks for the additional info.

  • Member since
    July 2015
Posted by CheesyMeatBurrito on Friday, July 31, 2015 6:22 PM

I've only ever seen the domestic Revell boxings of kits at Michales, and most of them are the ancient kits that really aren't worth building.

  • Member since
    August 2008
Posted by tankerbuilder on Friday, July 31, 2015 7:55 PM

You Remember !

Well , I am glad you and Don do . Now I don't feel so old and lonely and outa place . T.B.

  • Member since
    November 2008
  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, July 31, 2015 9:26 PM

The ROG 1/32 FW190D-9 and Bf109K-4 are both ex-Hasegawas but at a fraction of the price. Though not a ROG  the Pro-Modeler 1/48 F-4E is another ex Hasegawa.

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

JOIN OUR COMMUNITY!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

SEARCH FORUMS
FREE NEWSLETTER
By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. View our Privacy Policy.