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Using PE for the first time...
Posted by bluewavecaptain on Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:41 PM

I started using photo etch parts for my 1/570 Titanic. Boy, what a challenge. My first piece looks more like the shipwreck than the ship. I think I am going to buy a folding jig. Recommendactions? Advice?

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"Take her to sea, Mr. Murdoch. Let's stretch her legs." - Titanic (1997)

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:52 PM

Sure, quite a few.

Clean the PE in its fret, using lacquer thinner, but DONT rub it. Just let it air dry.

Paint it a neutral color like gray Tamiya primer while still on the fret.

Buy a box of single edged razor blades and use them to chop the parts off the fret.

Use a razor blade in each hand, one pressing down on the place at the bend, and one slipped under the part to be bent, and make the bend by hand.

Dont join runs of railings at the corners. Make a corner a part of each section.

Set in little spots of white glue to position, then run in CA on the end of a toothpick later.

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Posted by allan on Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:59 PM

Youll really need a folding jig.  This is what I use:

http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/13628.html

Its a great tool. But I believe theyre all about the same, and what really matters is you get the size you feel youll need for your usual projects.  You may need some rollers too (although I use various cylindrical objects for that).

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Posted by jeffpez on Thursday, February 11, 2016 5:41 AM

Years from now you'll still mess up a part from time to time. The only way to learn is to do it so keep at it. I also think a bending tool makes a huge difference. One source of high quality but expensive choices is The Small Shop http://www.thesmallshop.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2

Just about all online retailers have similar products so take a few minutes and find something that looks OK and fits your budget..

Good luck 

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Posted by spiralcity on Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:21 AM

The Small Shop is a great place to find exactly the right size photoetch bender to suit your needs. They arent really cheap, but well worth the money spent. The Bug may work for you, but if you build ships and they vary in scale a bigger bender may be prefered. For paint prep I simply dip my parts in a brass blackening solution, such as Antique Black, it works very well.

http://thesmallshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=9

 

This is the Bug and it will come with a bender and a glass plate for cutting.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Hokey on Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:38 AM

I'm just into my 1st shot at PE and I've got a lot to learn too! I need surgeon training I think!

So, I'm reading some notes here about painting before assy.? I guess I'm wondering wny I would glue and then prime already attached? Doesnt the pre-painted process cause adhereance issues if not "cleaned" at glue joints?

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Posted by Sandbox on Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:38 AM

I think the razor blade method is a good one to start with.  That way when you tweezer launch the nicely folded part into the unknown for the second or third time the razor blades will be right there to open up your wrists in frustration.  LOL.

I have recently invested in a folding tool and find it very handy.

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Posted by Hokey on Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:41 AM

BTW a helpful tip read on this forum was to put a dark color towel on the floor under work area, lap, chair. Makes finding launched pieces wayyyy easier!

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:58 AM

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Posted by wjbwjb29 on Thursday, February 11, 2016 6:35 PM

I use the bug and wouldnt be without it. I bought a cheap one once and it wouldnt even hold the PE when clamped. The Bug is well worth the money. You have alot more control with it over using 2 razor blades.

 

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Posted by spiralcity on Thursday, February 11, 2016 7:12 PM

I am a firm believer in buying the right tool for the job. Sure you will spend money on a photoetch bender, but if you are a model builder, it's money well spent. I would never tell someone not to buy an airbrush because it may cost too much so just paint by hand with brushes, it's much cheaper. Buy the right tool if you can and be done with it.

 

 

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Posted by Jay Jay on Friday, February 12, 2016 9:59 AM

I use carpenter's wood chisels. I have a set from 1/8 inch wide to 1 inch wide . Just hold the PE part down at the bend line with one ,and bend it up with the other. I've had no problems doing it this way and it's way quicker and cheaper than any bending tool. The only exception i've found is with bending long parts like ship's railings where a bending tool would be handy. My $15 Hold and Fold fits that bill nicely but that's the only time I ever use it.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by chango on Friday, February 12, 2016 12:55 PM

When I first started to use PE I had a rough time until I was told you've gotta bend the stuff as close as possible to it's final position before gluing so there isn't any spring in the metal to fight against and to use PVA glue (white glue, like Elmer's) instead of CA... it solved a lot of problems for me. Later on I got better with the stuff and found myself using CA more with good results.

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Posted by bluewavecaptain on Friday, February 12, 2016 2:04 PM

Sandbox

I think the razor blade method is a good one to start with.  That way when you tweezer launch the nicely folded part into the unknown for the second or third time the razor blades will be right there to open up your wrists in frustration.  LOL.

I have recently invested in a folding tool and find it very handy.

 

I think I peed myself reading this reply.

Shipyard - Revell 1/570 Titanic

Next Scheduled Build - Lindberg North Atlantic Fishing Trawler

"Take her to sea, Mr. Murdoch. Let's stretch her legs." - Titanic (1997)

Captain Charles Nelson

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Friday, February 12, 2016 3:23 PM

bluewavecaptain
Sandbox

I think the razor blade method is a good one to start with.  That way when you tweezer launch the nicely folded part into the unknown for the second or third time the razor blades will be right there to open up your wrists in frustration.  LOL.

I have recently invested in a folding tool and find it very handy.

 

 

 

I think I peed myself reading this reply.

 

Yes it's good for a laugh. I have a nice bending tool, but I hardly ever use it. You'll just have to experiment.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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