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Good news ? out of the latest tariff proposals

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Good news ? out of the latest tariff proposals
Posted by EdGrune on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 8:26 AM

In the past few weeks the talking heads on the news surmised that among the items to be included in the proposed $200B tariff plan from China would be a 25% tax applied to "toys".

The list was released yesterday. 

https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/301/2018-0026%20China%20FRN%207-10-2018_0.pdf

I searched through it using keywords: plastic, poly, polystyrene, model, hobby, toy, etc.  I got no significant hits WRT our hobby materials.  What I did find were some items regardings paints.

3208.10.00  Paints and varnishes (including enamels and lacquers) based on polyesters in a nonaqueous medium

3208.20.00  Paints and varnishes (including enamels and lacquers) based on acrylic or vinyl polymers in a nonaqueous medium

3208.90.00  Paints and varnishes based on synthetic polymers or chemically modified natural polymers nesoi, in a nonaqueous medium

3209.10.00  Paints and varnishes (including enamels and lacquers) based on acrylic or vinyl polymers in an aqueous medium

3209.90.00  Paints and varnishes based on synthetic polymers or chemically modified natural polymers nesoi, in an aqueous medium.

Tools, knives, files, sandpapers, were also included (trouble for Harbor Freight?)

Looks like the hobby may have dodged a bullet.   I do not believe that there is a significant hobby paint line with an origin in China.  Mr. Hobby/CSI Creos is Japan based.  Vallejo/AK/Ammo are Europe based.

FWIW, the term NESOI is a trade acronym meaning Not Elsewhere Specified Or Included.

 

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 9:14 AM

SHHHHHHHHH.....keep it down, they'll hear you......

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 10:15 AM

Interesting information! Definitely going to hit Harbor Freight pretty hard. 

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/48 GWH Fw 189 A-1 Nachtjager

On deck: 1/48 Bronco IF-17

In the hole: Who knows!  

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  • From: Commonwealth of Virginia
Posted by VA Spartan on Monday, July 23, 2018 9:31 PM

Not to rant but personally I don’t think the Chinese manufacturers represent that great of value anymore as a whole.  I think in general they are as expensive or more than the Europeans, Koreans, and Japanese.  They used to be great value for the money.  Who’s next to produce quality kits cheaply for the world? Maybe the Indians, Southeast Asians, maybe Africa, or Central or South America?  Dare we dream about production returning to the US?

On the workbench: 1/35 Takom T-54B, 1/350 AFV Club TypeVIIC, 1/35 Tamiya Char B1bis w/French Infnatry

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, July 23, 2018 9:55 PM

The fear though is that if Trumpeter kits get more expensive, other sources like Eastern Europe and Korea will match them.

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  • From: Colorado Springs
Posted by mawright20 on Tuesday, July 24, 2018 12:15 AM
Agreed. Out of a number of miltary firearms in my collection, the Chinese made SKS is an absolute POS!! Absolutely the worst assembly and accuracy of my whole collection! Mike
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  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, July 28, 2018 11:57 PM

mawright20
Agreed. Out of a number of miltary firearms in my collection, the Chinese made SKS is an absolute POS!! Absolutely the worst assembly and accuracy of my whole collection! Mike
 

 

Agreed. In my experience, Chinese firearms like Norinco are garbage and are light years behind European pieces like the Yugo Zastava M70 or even the cheaper Romanians. I see the Chinese stuff as imitated but never duplicated.

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

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  • From: Parker City, IN.
Posted by Rambo on Sunday, July 29, 2018 2:54 AM
If you think the sks is bad the norinco ak223 is designed that the feed ramps are on the mags not the front trunion like all other aks so only norinco mags work with them. Added with the fact they can't be imported since the mid 2000s, one mag will run about $75. Plus they are just sloppy, I do gun smithing on the side and have had a few of them cross my workbench.

Clint

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, July 29, 2018 7:56 AM

Uh Oh ;

 Can you say COLT , Model1945 .45 cal. ? Now that's a piece ! Heavy as a leg - iron But plenty of stopping power .Well made and almost idiot proof .( Think , How many  junior officers ( ensigns , lts and cwo,s in WW 2 actually shot their foot off ? ).

 Mine made the rounds  ,Tarawa , Iwo Jima , and other places . I carried it in South-East Asia on three tours . The Marine Gunnery Sergeant who passed it to me just told me .( " Gunny " she's got a history , Take care of her , she'll take care of you " ).

 You know what , he was right ! I have an old Bolt action Marlin 30-06 single shot , and a Stevens double barrel 12 , with exposed hammers .They still work great and I have test fired an A.K. I acquired years ago . It works , but I don't trust it .

 I sold a gun years ago and even it performed well . It was an American made weapon .It was called a Colt too . Not a small piece but they worked well .

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  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Monday, July 30, 2018 9:30 AM

Tanker - Builder

Uh Oh ;

 Can you say COLT , Model1945 .45 cal. ? Now that's a piece ! Heavy as a leg - iron But plenty of stopping power .Well made and almost idiot proof .( Think , How many  junior officers ( ensigns , lts and cwo,s in WW 2 actually shot their foot off ? ).

 Mine made the rounds  ,Tarawa , Iwo Jima , and other places . I carried it in South-East Asia on three tours . The Marine Gunnery Sergeant who passed it to me just told me .( " Gunny " she's got a history , Take care of her , she'll take care of you " ).

 You know what , he was right ! I have an old Bolt action Marlin 30-06 single shot , and a Stevens double barrel 12 , with exposed hammers .They still work great and I have test fired an A.K. I acquired years ago . It works , but I don't trust it .

 I sold a gun years ago and even it performed well . It was an American made weapon .It was called a Colt too . Not a small piece but they worked well .

 

TB

I love my Colts. I have a 1911 from 1918, a 1911A1 from 1943 and a 1953 civilian model 1911A1 in 38 Super. All fine shooting pieces that will not surrender to the passage of time. They took a likin' but they till keep on tickin'.

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

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Posted by Jay Bones on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 7:03 PM

mawright20
Agreed. Out of a number of miltary firearms in my collection, the Chinese made SKS is an absolute POS!! Absolutely the worst assembly and accuracy of my whole collection! Mike
 

 

A little further off topic, I know a guy who bought a Chang Ziang motorcycle.  Chinese copy, of a Russian copy of a WWII German design.

Assembled under communist labor.

What could go wrong.

Also brings to mind the Yugo.  Fiat design and engineering, assembled under communist labor.  

Again, what could go wrong?

Why did they have rear window defrosters?

So your hands would't get cold when you were pushing them.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 7:30 PM

Why did they have robust heater fans? So you wouldn't boil the engine on hot days.

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