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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:44 PM

Don Stauffer

 

 
Tanker - Builder

Hi;

 ...

 The funny thing ? You can keep enamel for years.Why does Acrylic dry in the bottle even if you NEVER use it? I never had Lacquer or Enamel do that !

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I have never had an unopened bottle of Testors enamel that old, but what I have noticed is that once a bottle is unopened, it does degrade somewhat fast. It reaches a point where it cannot be restored by stirring or shaking- it seems to polymerize, and become unusable.  I still like Testors enamel, and still use it but I know once I start using a bottle it will not last that long.

 

This thing will liquify any paint, no matter how old it is. Just add a little thinner and shake, shake, shake!Indifferent

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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  • From: N. Burbs of ChiKawgo
Posted by GlennH on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 3:44 PM

Hey that jig saw jig is pretty cool!

A number Army Viet Nam scans from hundreds yet to be done:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/southwestdreams/albums/72157621855914355

Have had the great fortune to be on every side of the howitzers.

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 5:20 PM

Yeah Johnny! A helluva machine!

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 7:16 PM

The main reason That I made the "super shaker" is because I could never get Testors' Aluminum paint to properly mix. The paint always had those weird black streaks in it. The super shaker does a great job of mixing the paint.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 10:27 PM

Johnny, I made one of those. It works great, especially if you put a bee bee in the bottle.

Here are some paints I still have. The Polly s are from the 70's. I haven't and won't open them since.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by E. Halibut on Sunday, July 28, 2019 2:15 PM

I know that in 1972 Testors' enamels cost 15 Canadian cents a bottle, and even our small corner store sold them.

Terry Jones, 1942-2020

"He's a very naughty boy!"

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  • From: Green Bay, WI USA
Posted by echolmberg on Monday, July 29, 2019 8:49 AM
Boy, do those square Pactra bottles really take me back! Regarding prices, I think my earliest recollection is paying $0.50 for a square bottle of Testors enamel back when I started getting into model building in the late '70s/early '80s. And to think I just paid $12 for three bottles of Tamiya paint a couple of weeks ago. Eric

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Posted by Jay Jay on Monday, July 29, 2019 10:43 AM

Talk about prices, I just dug out from the stash an old 3-in-1 AMT car model kit that has a price tag of $1.49 on it. You can't even ship one for that now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 I'm finally retired. Now time I got, money I don't.

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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Monday, July 29, 2019 12:16 PM

This goes back to 1977 and yes it was .40 cents for the testors at K mart. The Pactra was  only at orange blossom the local hobby shop at the time

   

 

 

 Nick.

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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, July 29, 2019 1:14 PM

I threw out several bottles that had the dime price on the lid a couple of years ago. They were basically empty in old kit boxes from my youth.

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, July 29, 2019 1:19 PM

Let's go back 54 years..... 

   https://media.tenor.com/images/c3220c2b53770ccde0e55d5ac91ac704/tenor.gif

 

A 50 cent 1/72 scale made in https://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2010/images/flags/US.png Revelle P-39 Airacobra assembled with tube glue and hand/brush painted with 10¢ testor enamels. Bought it all at the local drug store. For a dumb kid with limited resources/info and no help other than the kit instructions, this was the best I could do. Spent my allowance every week on a new kit.


I built this antique back in 1965 and it still looks pretty good. It's never been broken and sits properly right out of the box.

Less than a dollar all together and even has (for that time) a fairly reasonable representation of the mid-fuselage allison engine. Wish I still had the box it came in.

 

Sherman-Jumbo-1945

"I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now"

 

 
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Posted by GlennH on Monday, July 29, 2019 3:34 PM
Fun posts.

A number Army Viet Nam scans from hundreds yet to be done:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/southwestdreams/albums/72157621855914355

Have had the great fortune to be on every side of the howitzers.

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  • From: Newmarket, Canada
Posted by hurricane40 on Monday, August 5, 2019 4:47 PM

Wow.  Outstanding pictures.  Thank you for posting the link.

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  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:05 PM

Got these survivors 

And these form the early to mid 1970's. For the older South Florida/Miami  guys around in the hobby way back when, check out the Orange Blossom Hobby price tag.

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Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

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Posted by GlennH on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:16 PM

Those 19 and 25 survivors like the ones I posted have to be early 60's, very late 50's at the most. Mmmm we all had to have a gold and silver no matter we needed them or not!

A number Army Viet Nam scans from hundreds yet to be done:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/southwestdreams/albums/72157621855914355

Have had the great fortune to be on every side of the howitzers.

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Posted by E. Halibut on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 10:39 PM

In 2015 I was packing up the old family home, and I found an old box that had my enamels - Humbrol mostly - and some of my old modelling equipment from the 70s. I had no idea that Dad still had them. They were all solid lumps of dry paint by then, but it was still nice to see them again.

I also found a 38 year-old can of Badger Propel that was seriously corroded, and probably posed some kind of safety hazard. 

Terry Jones, 1942-2020

"He's a very naughty boy!"

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  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 6:21 AM

Those old paints I posted are still good, some being 40+ years old yet a newly purchased small Testors paint bottle or MM Enamel has gone bad in just a couple of months. Quality has gone down hill IMO. 

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Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

fox
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Posted by fox on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:59 PM

Last night, I was looking for just a bit of primer to use on a 1/72 P-51B I'm building for a friend and picked up one of the old pactra bottles of "Flat Rebel Gray No M12". It looked like 75% solid and 25% thinner. Never been opened. It took an oil filter wrench and a pair of pliers to get it open. Stuck a toothpick in to see if it was hard as a rock. To my surprise, the toothpick went clear to the bottom. Put the old battery powered mixer in and stirred away. It mixed right up, went on nice and smooth with my Iwata, and this morning it was dry and looks great.

Hope the rest of those old paints I have turn out that well. They don't make them like that any more.

Jim  Captain

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   On the Bench: Artesania Latina  (aka) Artists in the Latrine 1/75 Bluenose II

I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here.

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Posted by Liegghio on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:05 PM

fox

Last night, I was looking for just a bit of primer to use on a 1/72 P-51B I'm building for a friend and picked up one of the old pactra bottles of "Flat Rebel Gray No M12". It looked like 75% solid and 25% thinner. Never been opened. It took an oil filter wrench and a pair of pliers to get it open. Stuck a toothpick in to see if it was hard as a rock. To my surprise, the toothpick went clear to the bottom. Put the old battery powered mixer in and stirred away. It mixed right up, went on nice and smooth with my Iwata, and this morning it was dry and looks great.

Hope the rest of those old paints I have turn out that well. They don't make them like that any more.

Jim  Captain

 

Same experience here. When I was at Ubon RTAFB in the early seventies I bought some Pactra paints at the base hobby shop to paint an F-4 model. Pactra had colors that were a perfect match for SEA camouflage, even though they weren’t labeled as such. (It was an easy bit of research to verify the color accuracy. All I had to do was paint the model, then hold it up against an F-4 that had a fresh repaint.) I somehow kept the paints for decades. A few years ago for one of the pilots who had flown out of Ubon I built an F-4 model in his markings. I dug out the Pactras, added a little thinner, stirred them up and airbrushed them right on.

Definitely something better about those old paints. Probably lead, or something else equally politically incorrect. Or maybe just better quality control.

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Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:24 PM

I think when I saw those testor paints with the prices on them I still thought buying clear would make parts see-through...lol.  I still have some - the chrome silver was the best I've used for brush painting.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:34 AM

fox

Last night, I was looking for just a bit of primer to use on a 1/72 P-51B I'm building for a friend and picked up one of the old pactra bottles of "Flat Rebel Gray No M12". It looked like 75% solid and 25% thinner. Never been opened. It took an oil filter wrench and a pair of pliers to get it open. Stuck a toothpick in to see if it was hard as a rock. To my surprise, the toothpick went clear to the bottom. Put the old battery powered mixer in and stirred away. It mixed right up, went on nice and smooth with my Iwata, and this morning it was dry and looks great.

Hope the rest of those old paints I have turn out that well. They don't make them like that any more.

Jim  Captain

 

 

Not only did it work fox but it's better quality paint.

I have used the new Testors gloss paints and had to wait over a week for it to cure before polishing the paint otherwise it would come off to the primer or bare plastic a day or two later. I just used my 40+ year old Copper Testors enamel paint to touch up my 1980 Butternut (also called copper tone) color Schwinn Suburban bike  and was able to lightly polish out the touch ups within a couple of hours without removing all the paint! I will still let it sit for a couple of days and lightly re polish again.

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Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, August 15, 2019 12:26 PM

Hi;

 I believe it was a combination of things. Pride in the product, Pride in the company name and Pride to be able make this product available to the public. All in all, Pride in one's name in the public's eye.

     true ,this does come down to a lot of things and yes, Quality and Quality Control , After all, look at the products we have purchased over the years. How many of a particular product do we have? It all boils down to faith in the product and it's useability.

      You could be that way back then.That's why after the Little Bottles, when Testors created Model Master it was my go to after Humbrol and Polly S. The Testors was always in my supplies and I wish their Acrylics met the challenge. In my opinion they don't even come close!

      Pactra will always be a old favorite of mine .I painted so many cars and none look brushed and they still look good today.

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