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If I had a time machine (or things I would tell my younger self)!

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If I had a time machine (or things I would tell my younger self)!
Posted by DanR1967 on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 3:36 PM

I'm just having some fun here, but who knows, maybe some of these things can be helpful to new builders. As a 30+ year veteran of this wonderful hobby, I have enough hindsight now to know what I was doing wrong in 1988 when I committed to making this a hobby that I wanted to pursue long term. Here's my initial list:

1) When you brush paint parts, wait for them to dry before proceeding. Seriously, wait for them to dry. The same goes for spray painted parts. Fingerprints never look good on your completed build.

2) Along the same lines, when you're using plastic cement (as opposed to super glues), wait for the glue to dry. Sure, you can continue on, but you're just going to fight with parts that refuse to stay in place.

3) When it comes to cleaning your brushes, paint thinner is paint thinner. If you're using enamels, a large tin of Walmart thinner is just as effective as a small bottle of Testors thinner - and the price is almost the same. I wasted so much money on small bottles of Testors thinner! This applies to lacquer thinners and acrylic thinners as well. This doesn't apply to airbrushing, which leads to...

4) Use a compatible thinner to thin your paint. It doesn't have to be from the same manufacturer, but if you're going to go rogue, test the paint first before committing to your actual build.

5) If you screw up and decide to trash a build, don't throw it in the garbage. I look back on so many abandoned builds where I now realize I could have raided those disasters for parts.

6) Buy good tools, but don't feel like you have to buy EVERY tool right away. Sure, it's nice to have an array of knives, files, sanding sticks, brushes, paint, etc., but in the process of acquiring that, lots of cheap crap was purchased. I now have a good assortment of quality tools and it really does make a difference. Those cheapy Harbor Freight tweezers might look good but once you realize they have very little clamping strength, you understand that you should have spent that extra $10. Nevertheless, those cheapy Harbor Freight tools still have their uses. Some of them might even keep your bag of Doritos closed.

And for now, my final bit of advice to myself:

7) Be fearless. I waited so long to use an airbrush because I was afraid of not using it properly. I never tried weathering because I was afraid I'd ruin the model. I was so scared of getting paint runs that it took a long time before I got close enough with a spray can to get an actual decent gloss coat without orange peel. Mistakes happen. If you aim for perfection from day one, you will fail. Yes, you will see amazing builds online and at shows, but what you don't see is that those builders made all of the same early mistakes, they just powered through and got better.

Feel free to add to this if you want to. I was working on a kit and got frustrated at one point because two chrome parts were not adhering so well. In the past, I would try to force this, but experience let me know that it was because I hadn't shaved off enough chrome from the two parts. When I went back and cleared them more thoroughly, the join was near perfect. That got me thinking about what a moron I used to be - impatient, frustrated, angry... none of those things made me a better builder.

Dan

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 3:44 PM

Mine would be:

"Your models actually will start to look like the ones in the magazines...eventually." (But don't expect it on the first dozen or so tries. Like anything else, there's a learning curve.)

Greg

George Lewis:

"Every time you correct me on my grammar I love you a little fewer."
 
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Posted by DanR1967 on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 4:40 PM

gregbale

Mine would be:

"Your models actually will start to look like the ones in the magazines...eventually. (But don't expect in on the first dozen or so tries. Like anything else, there's a learning curve.)

 



YesYesYes

Dan

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Posted by littletimmy on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 4:54 PM

Ok.... I will play along...

As I step out of the time machine ( I'm now in 1984) 

I grab my former self, and scream at the top of my lungs,

GET YOUR BUTT DOWN TO BRIDGETOWN HOBBYS AND BUY ALL THE JO-HAN KITS THEY HAVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 5:10 PM

littletimmy

GET YOUR BUTT DOWN TO BRIDGETOWN HOBBYS AND BUY ALL THE JO-HAN KITS THEY HAVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

Greg

George Lewis:

"Every time you correct me on my grammar I love you a little fewer."
 
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Posted by Real G on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 6:05 PM

I'd tell myself to actually make an effort to study and learn something in Japanese school, not just draw funny pictures and slide by with minimal effort.

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 6:05 PM

Hello!

This is really good advice and I'd amen all the points. One thing... Get a job! while slowing you down this will automatically take care of points 1&2 and help with the 6! :-) That's how it worked out for me!

Thanks for lookin' and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by wpwar11 on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 6:59 PM

I think your list is brilliant.  I've been modeling for two years after a 35 year absence.  Anyone taking on the hobby my advice would be just slow down.  No need to rush.  It's way better to take the long right road then the short wrong one.  

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Posted by DanR1967 on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:24 PM

Real G

I'd tell myself to actually make an effort to study and learn something in Japanese school, not just draw funny pictures and slide by with minimal effort.

 

Don't feel bad - I drew funny pictures from 6th grade all the way through senior year of college. Looking back, it was probably some form of ADD, but I still graduated and even managed to do it C-u-m Laude!

Dan

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Posted by DanR1967 on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:29 PM

wpwar11

I think your list is brilliant.  I've been modeling for two years after a 35 year absence.  Anyone taking on the hobby my advice would be just slow down.  No need to rush.  It's way better to take the long right road then the short wrong one.  

 



Thank you! I think almost every new builder suffers from the same desire to turn out quality builds right away. Some time back, I tried to get my significant other's son into building and he got frustrated from the lack of instant gratification. I still have some early builds that were really not that great but I've kept them because I love to see them in comparison to my later efforts. I tried to show him how I improved over time, but the lure of video games eventually proved too strong.

Dan

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Posted by Real G on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:58 PM

DanR1967

 Real G

Don't feel bad - I drew funny pictures from 6th grade all the way through senior year of college. Looking back, it was probably some form of ADD, but I still graduated and even managed to do it C-u-m Laude!

My British Lit professor in college apprarently enjoyed my notebook illustrations of Chaucer and this randy tales.  At least it proved I was paying attention!

But seriously, the stuff that my parents told me would become useful one day all checked out.  Except the one where my mom said I had to learn to golf, drink booze, and smoke to get ahead in life.  That was true perhaps in 1970, but not now.

If anything, I'd go back in time and give myself a kick and tell myself to stop being such a timid stick in the mud.  I was such a lame-o, uptight person when I was young.  I'd say "Why.  So.  Serious?!  Let's put a SMILE on that face!"

As for modeing, nah, my hobby journey has been enjoyable through the years!  OK, OK, maybe I'd tell myself to not buy all those models I eventually sold off!  Yeah, except for buying too much stuff, I have no hobby regrets.  Ooh, the vendor's room at the IPMS Nats opens early this year...

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 8:37 PM

I totally agree with what everyone has said.  For me I wish that I would've applied myself better in high school and then went either straight into college or into the service.  For modeling I was very guilty of #7 myself.  I had bought a Testors Aztek airbrush and never used it for years because it was expensive(back then) and I didn't want to mess it up.  Eventually I started using it and liked the finishes that I was achieving with it.  I eventually moved on to the cheap Iwatas from Hobby Lobby and they also worked well for me.  The sad thing is that several years ago my family got me a Grex airbrush with the pistol grip(next to my paint booth, it's the most expensive piece of equipment that I own for this hobby)and I still haven't used it out of fear of messing it up.  I guess old habits die hard.

TJS

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Posted by chops1sc on Wednesday, August 11, 2021 12:24 PM

Non-hobby wise, I would tell myself to take better care of our body.... nuff said.

Hobby wise, I would tell myself to build a tank. I always thought tanks and other armor kits were some super-high expert level that me as a 11-12 year old wouldn't be able to build.

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Posted by armornut on Wednesday, August 11, 2021 2:30 PM

   In life...wait for Air Force recruiter Sgt Tully to come back from golf.

    Hobby wise...NEVER PROCRASTINATE, make time even 5min to tinker.

    No regrets just a wonder of what might have been.

we're modelers it's what we do

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, August 14, 2021 9:47 AM

With regard to modeling, probably nothing much to tell myself other than there is better stuff coming down the road and to hang in there.

With regard to life, enjoy things now because your future will suck.

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Posted by tankboy51 on Saturday, August 14, 2021 10:46 AM

I would not change a thing.  It all worked out well for me.

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, August 14, 2021 5:29 PM

armornut
wait for Air Force recruiter Sgt Tully to come back from golf

armornut - now that souds like a fascinating story, can you tell me something more here?

TIA

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Chemteacher on Saturday, August 14, 2021 7:31 PM
I would have to tell myself to have confidence and practice more. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve realized that my dream job would have been to be in The President’s Own Marine Band or the Marine Drum and Bugle Corp. I just never thought I would have been good enough. To combine playing music and my admiration for the military would have been awesome. Also, I would have bought stock in Apple…just saying. Modeling-wise, I would have bought more kits back then to keep for the stash not knowing they would get to be so expensive.

On the bench: Revell-USS Arizona; Airfix P-51D in 1/72

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Posted by keavdog on Saturday, August 14, 2021 10:00 PM

More glue doesn't equal faster finish.  Let it dry.  And call that girl back dumba$$

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Dodgy on Saturday, August 14, 2021 11:09 PM

Now that gave me a bloody good laugh!!

AAAARRRRGGHHH!!!!!!!!!!

Forget making mistakes with models, I can't even drive this damn thing! I meant to include littletimmys post - see below.

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

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Posted by Dodgy on Saturday, August 14, 2021 11:17 PM

littletimmy

Ok.... I will play along...

As I step out of the time machine ( I'm now in 1984) 

I grab my former self, and scream at the top of my lungs,

GET YOUR BUTT DOWN TO BRIDGETOWN HOBBYS AND BUY ALL THE JO-HAN KITS THEY HAVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Now that gave me a bloody good laugh!!!

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

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Posted by Dodgy on Saturday, August 14, 2021 11:26 PM

DanR1967, sadly I was guilty of all of those things back in the day, except for the airbrush. I started out using the cans and then graduated to a full air cylinder with pressure gauge. Now I've come back to the hobby after a long break and have a better airbrush and compressor, but I was too frightened to use it for fear of stuffing up because it had been so long. Sigh. Thank goodness I've now moved on.

Great list.

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

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Posted by 68GT on Friday, August 20, 2021 9:06 AM
Buy all the kits and upgrades you can when you find them real cheap and they are readily available!

On Ed's bench, ???

  

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Posted by Armor Buff on Monday, August 23, 2021 8:45 AM

 

If playing with the time machine might as well have some good evil fun at the expense of a couple of sacred hobby cows and make some hamburgers . 

Invest Everything in the US stock market in 1984. Use maximum margin. Use the resulting billions to do the following:

A) Buy, Decapitate & Reorganize 

Buy Testor's. Immediate decapitation strike against company's incompetent leadership team.

Buy Monogram Immediate decapitation strike against company's incompetent leadership team.

Buy Revell Immediate decapitation strike against company's incompetent leadership team.

Buy AMT Immediate decapitation strike against company's incompetent leadership team.

Fuse a new company together from these carcasses under Japanese style management that practices Zaizen and 5S. Americans that take issue with business philosophy are warned and then fired on the spot if resistance continues.

B) Scored Earth Policy

Total Absolute Destruction of IPMS/USA.  Reform from the ashes an organization along the lines of IPMS/UK & AMPS. From what I've seen IPMS/USA inadvertently did more damage to the hobby in the USA than anything else. The hobby thrives in Europe and the Pacific Rim compared to the USA. Areas that are basically free of IPMS/USA influences and taint.

 

On a serious note now that folks dandruff is all up :)

My Priorty List For Best Spent Hobby Dolllar

SAFETY GEAR - Safety glasses, gloves, high quality respirator with correct high quality filters rated by your government’s lab testing, whole house fan etc, - what’s needed to ensure safe healthy well ventilated model environment. These are the most important items one will buy for the hobby.

  1. The basic bible of all afv modeling guide books. First purchase

Modeling Tanks and Military Vehicles
by Sheperd Paine

51MMVMVSG5L.SX344_BO1,204,203,200

You’ll out grow it :slight_smile: It’s a relic by today’s standard.

That’s the whole point - it will help you grow and help you learn HOW to grow skills :slight_smile: That’s the key part.

  1. Very High Quality Basic Hobby Hand Tools - Tamiya Basic File set, Tamiya PE file, Meng or Godhand part cutters or equivalent, #11 & #15 scalpel blades, metal hobby handle for blades with antiroll heavy nut. Quality wet/dry sanding paper 400, 600, 800 etc. Equivalent sanding sticks. Medical grade iris tweezers, pin vise, drill bits, metal straight edge, 5.5 k lights, High Quality Liquid Cement (Testor’s, Tamiya & Mr Hobby) High quality putty (Molak Stucco Putty, Tamiya Basic, red Bondo Glaze Putty), high quality working fine point paint brush for Liquid Cement & Putty application. Several empty metal altoids mint boxes. Good assortment of Red Sable paint brushes and some cheaper good quality paint brushes.

  2. Hobby Furniture - a good chair & decent desk/work table are critical. You’ll not enjoy working if your miserable in the work area. A standard desk is about 28 to 29 inches high - this is far too low for long sessions if your taller than about 5ft 8 inches. My desk sits on four milk crates to raise work surface to 35 inches high.

  3. High Quality Airbrush & Electrical Tools - appropriate airbrush for current skill level typically Paasche H or VL or equivalent of preferred brand. Compressor, Spray Booth, UK MiniCraft/Proxxton or equivalent rotary tool. High torque low RPM. Dremel generally sucks by comparison having low torque and high rpm.

  4. Hobby Chemicals & misc
    High quality - Liquid Cement, craft/hobby paints, gloss coat, flat coat, thinners, super glue(s), accelerator, debonder, pipettes, small mix cups, white glue, decal setting solutions, oil paints, naptha, pastel chalk

  5. One model kit to build

  6. Bookshelf to display finished work

  7. Starter stash - the ten kits you can’t live without. That should remain the working limit of the stash size. 

  8. Storage/transport totes for model shows or club meetings

  9. Reference books :books:. Just buy a few of the very best as most are of marginal value.

  10. Decal sheets & aftermarket parts purchase only for immediate project or the ten kits in the stash.

  11. Fluff - products of convenience
    Pigments, premixed washes - avoid as it's easy to make one's own.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, August 23, 2021 11:27 AM

If I had a time machine... Censored modeling I'm going to go look at dinosaurs!!!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, August 23, 2021 11:40 AM

Having a time machine can have disastrous results...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AATDhGrhyjU

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, August 23, 2021 12:11 PM

"Never trust a fart"

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, August 23, 2021 11:42 PM

LOL, Baron! 

 

Knowing my luck my time machine would land on top of and smoosh the rodent creature that would have evolved into modern day mammals including humans. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, August 24, 2021 12:34 PM

Gamera

If I had a time machine... Censored modeling I'm going to go look at dinosaurs!!! 

Careful, Gamera!

http://www.astro.sunysb.edu/fwalter/AST389/ASoundofThunder.pdf

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, August 24, 2021 1:05 PM

My Recommendations would be simple:

      PATIENCE-Ya Don't have to build it in a day!

      PATIENCE- With yourself!

      PATIENCE- The paint will dry, Stop being in a hurry. and lastly PATIENCE with yourself and Your Ideas. They'll work! Just Take Your Time.

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