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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, June 28, 2023 7:15 PM

Those look cool Bob! Looking forward to seeing how it comes together! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bobstamp on Tuesday, June 27, 2023 9:18 PM

It's later than promised, but here's an image of the fossils, mini-shark, and mini-starfish that I bought at the shop on Robson Street, here in Vancouver:

I bought a Radley cordless mini-rotary tool kit (a less-expensive version of a Dremel, I assume) and have been carefully sanding the shark's fins so they are thinner and the starfish's arms so they are more delicate and conform better to the base. That starfish is large, but if squids can be big enough to capture a submarine, that starfish could certainly qualify for a Guinness World Records!

Speaking of the base, I tried some preshading for the first time, using my canned-air airbrush outfit to spray the crevices and recesses black and then spraying two or three light coats of Tamiya USAF tan spray. Now it looks much more like the seafloor (at least the way I envision the seafloor) than an uneven lump of grey plastic. I think that my "creatures" will be right at home!

Bob 

On the bench: A diorama to illustrate the crash of a Beech T-34B Mentor which I survived in 1962 (I'm using Minicraft's 1/48 model of the Mentor), and a Pegasus model of the submarine Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas fame. 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, June 26, 2023 10:16 PM

That sounds really cool, I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with! 

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Posted by Bobstamp on Thursday, June 22, 2023 9:26 PM

I've continued thinking about the problem of find scaled model sea life plants and animals. I've found — and purchased! — some!

Onlhy a few blocks from my apartment, on Robson Street, there's a Chinese-owned shop that specializes in selling fossils, gemstones, and mineral samples. I dropped in last week and bought several fossils, a starfish and a shark made of "composition" material (I think). I'll try to send pix tomorrow.

I'm planning to start work on the base this evening. 

Bob

On the bench: A diorama to illustrate the crash of a Beech T-34B Mentor which I survived in 1962 (I'm using Minicraft's 1/48 model of the Mentor), and a Pegasus model of the submarine Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas fame. 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, May 24, 2023 7:54 PM

That looks awesome Bob! Please post finished photos when done, I really want to see how this turns out! 

I've picked up a few big pieces of driftwood at the beach for use as bases for dioramas but haven't used any yet... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bobstamp on Monday, May 22, 2023 2:27 PM

And away we go! My wife and I walked to downtown Vancouver today for some shopping and lunch (A&W), and on the way home near our neighbourhood we came across a small street fair offering clothing and jewelry, and something very interesting to me: black kyanite.

I’d never heard of kyanite of any color, of which there are several, but apparently it’s a common mineral with many practical applications in the production of ceramics, abrasives, and electronics. Here’s a photo of the two black kyanite pieces I bought. They’d actually make nicer earrings, but I have a better use for them. Here’s an image of them. Can you think how I might use them? Each one is about a 2.25 inches long (just over 3 cm): 

It’s a bit of stretch, perhaps, but I think they look enough like coral to be coral for my Nautilus model’s base. But, actually, I often went fossil hunting with my dad when I was growing up in southwestern New Mexico, and fossils not too dissimilar to the kryonite were common. Here’s one that I found; it's about four inches long:

Just because that fossil is a few kazillion years old doesn't mean that Captain Nemo of the Nautilus couldn't have discovered living relatives of corals that were thought to be extinct. Captain Nemo saw lots of seemingly impossible creatures, plants, and experienced many unprecedented events.

I think that, painted appropriately, whatever that means, the kyonite will look enough like corals to please me. Or I might just leave then as-is, i.e. unpainted. I’d never heard of Kyonite, so I googled it. It’s old, for sure: it was formed during continent-continent collisions which resulted in the formation of the super-continent Pangaea during the Carboniferous Period, 335 million years ago.

Creating realistic sea critters and plants won’t be as difficult as I thought. For one thing, the base for the giant squid and the Nautilus submarine model is smaller than I remembered, and is mostly taken up by the squid’s abdomen. (Do squids have abdomens?!) Anyway, I think it will be kinda fun turning a few found objects into denizens of the deep, and there’s a fossil shop nearby on Robson Street which might have a few small fossils that would work. 

Bob

On the bench: A diorama to illustrate the crash of a Beech T-34B Mentor which I survived in 1962 (I'm using Minicraft's 1/48 model of the Mentor), and a Pegasus model of the submarine Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas fame. 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, May 20, 2023 11:14 AM

Hi!

      This is one way to go. Depending where on earth you are sea-wise. Just remember there are more reefs and colorful fishes in the Temperate and Equatorial zones. The colder water fishes are not as interesting as a group even. What I would recommend then is Sculpey or believe it or not Play-Doh!

     Play-Doh can be let dry slowly and can be shaped and carved after drying just like Sculpey. You just have to be gentler! Work from photos where you can and keep them in scale to each other as well.

      Either one can be painted to match the photos. A 1/72 or 1/48 tropical would be very small though.The Bigger fishes would not be a real problem. Swordfishes and Tuna get to some incradible sizes in real life. Coral looking stuff from Pet-Smart or an Acquarium Store would Not be unuseable, just need downsizing a wee bit.

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Posted by missileman2000 on Saturday, May 20, 2023 8:15 AM

Tanker-Builder

Hi!

       Most Sealife at scale is hard to find. In the one with the Nautilus, Schools of Tuna and others would be okay But remember ,"The deeper you, the less you'll find',is true. If you're thinking Reef life and the Nautilus being actually Compatible it's slim. The TBM-3 then you'd better use your imagination because sea life in aircraft scales in Non-Existant!

 

But if the modeler is scratchbuilding the sea stuff from pictures, they can make it any scale they want.

 

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Posted by Bobstamp on Friday, May 19, 2023 10:32 PM

Thanks to all who have responded. I had the same experience as you guys — there just ain’t no model sea critters out there in the scale I need, which is, according to the Nautilus kit’s box, 1/144. Here's an image of a completed model and base (with the very scary squid!):

Since the completed model will be about a foot long (30.5 cm), the original submarine must have been about 144 feet long (44 metres) long. That’s about right for a 19th Century submarine that first existed only in Jules Verne’s imagination! Thus, a 1/144-scale starfish with a diameter of, say, five inches  (12.5 cm) would be only 0.04 inch (1mm) in diameter! 

Hmmm…. I just never considered how small to-scale sea creatures and plants would be. Math, obviously, is not my strong suit. And no one is going to be able to find such tiny critters anywhere on the Internet or perhaps in the Universe. My only hope is to spend some time with sprues and sheets of styrene, files, sandpaper, and whatever else I can find. Perhaps a short piece of thick cotton twine could be picked apart at one end of a short piece to become an anenome. Since the reef is home to a very large giant squid, perhaps other sea creature in the region are large too, like giant starfish, clams, kelp, etc.

I’ll let you know, eventually, how I manage creating my own reef world.

Bob 

P.S. I checked the TOOB website. There really aren't enough examples that I could use, considering the price, and all of them are a bit too large. But thanks for the link.

 

On the bench: A diorama to illustrate the crash of a Beech T-34B Mentor which I survived in 1962 (I'm using Minicraft's 1/48 model of the Mentor), and a Pegasus model of the submarine Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas fame. 

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Posted by Bobstamp on Friday, May 19, 2023 10:26 PM

 

Sorry. Duplicate post.

Bob

On the bench: A diorama to illustrate the crash of a Beech T-34B Mentor which I survived in 1962 (I'm using Minicraft's 1/48 model of the Mentor), and a Pegasus model of the submarine Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas fame. 

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Posted by CG Bob on Friday, May 19, 2023 8:10 PM

You might want to check out Safari Ltd. Figurines.  Their "TOOB" line might be the best option.  Their "Good Luck Minis" are about an inch long.   You  might have to check various craft stores like Joann Frabric and Crafts or Hobby Lobby.  My local HobbyTown has some of mini's for sale at the register.  

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, May 19, 2023 10:57 AM

Hi!

       Most Sealife at scale is hard to find. In the one with the Nautilus, Schools of Tuna and others would be okay But remember ,"The deeper you go, the less you'll find',is true. If you're thinking Reef life and the Nautilus being actually Compatible it's slim. The TBM-3 then you'd better use your imagination because sea life in aircraft scales in Non-Existant!

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Posted by missileman2000 on Friday, May 19, 2023 8:00 AM

! used a google image search on seaweed and sea grasses.  Lots of images.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, May 18, 2023 10:40 PM
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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, May 18, 2023 6:54 PM

Have you checked Etsy? I searched for 'starfish' and 'miniature fish' and got a lot of hits. Yeah, most of them were still too big to use as well as lots of clownfish and koi/goldfish but still you might find something usable...

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Posted by CrashTestDummy on Thursday, May 18, 2023 2:40 PM

keavdog

Not sure what scale you're after but there's these 1/35 I found during a quick search

https://www.ebay.com/itm/392566868126

 

 

 

Those all look to me to be mostly freshwater fish.  

G. Beaird,

Pearland, Texas

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Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, May 17, 2023 11:34 PM

Not sure what scale you're after but there's these 1/35 I found during a quick search

https://www.ebay.com/itm/392566868126

 

Thanks,

John

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Scale sea life models
Posted by Bobstamp on Wednesday, May 17, 2023 10:34 PM

I'm nearly finished with my TBM-3E model. Next up is my still-borne model of Jules Verne's Nautilus in the tentacles of a giant squid. I'd like to add some scale sea life to the base — anenomes, starfish, coral, seaweed, etc. However, I've googled it to death and haven't found a single source of such items. Aquarium dealers offer such things, but they're all way too large. A five-inch/12.5cm starfish is as big as the squid!

Bob

On the bench: A diorama to illustrate the crash of a Beech T-34B Mentor which I survived in 1962 (I'm using Minicraft's 1/48 model of the Mentor), and a Pegasus model of the submarine Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas fame. 

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