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u.s. airforce hh-60g pavehawk medavac reference

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u.s. airforce hh-60g pavehawk medavac reference
Posted by cygnusx1 on Monday, April 8, 2013 2:15 PM

I'm planning on converting the academy 1/35 Blackhawk DAP model to an air force HH-60G pavehawk currently in use in afganistan. I want to make it into a medivac chopper. does anyone know were I can find a book with some good photos of the interior. I've seen some good outside photos of this helicopter but I can't find any good photos of the interior set up for medavac version. Any help would be greatly Appreciated.

Keith L.

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  • From: Lafayette, LA
Posted by Melgyver on Monday, April 8, 2013 3:31 PM

The National Geographic Channel has been running a series of "Inside Combat Rescue" and they have footage of the insides of the HH-60G's.  Looks really "cluttered" on the back wall with bags and bags of medical supplies.  No seats for the PJ's, they sit on the floor hooked in by a nylon rope.

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Mel

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  • From: Lexington, VA
Posted by USAFSPOOK on Monday, April 8, 2013 6:51 PM

Check out Cobra Company's website (and links ) for update sets for the Pave Hawk, including the newer external .50 and mini-gun mounts.  Squadron has a Walk Around that features the Pave Hawk, but it was published in 1999 so it may be somewhat dated.  As mentioned above, the Inside Combat Rescue series shows the inside of the helicopters to be very cluttered and will probably be your best bet for current birds.  The floor space is left open, other than seats for the gunners; most of the medic bags appear attached to the rear bulkhead.  It also appears the pilots fly without doors most of the time, at least in the summertime!  Make sure to use FS 36173 for the overall grey scheme as well, not 36118 as some sources state--it will be too dark.

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Posted by USAFSPOOK on Monday, April 8, 2013 6:59 PM

Forgot to mention, have not checked to see if National Geographic has that series on video yet; hope they do as I would like this for reference as well.

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Posted by cygnusx1 on Tuesday, April 9, 2013 6:46 AM

Mel, Thanks for the help. I saw one episode of "Inside Combat Rescue" and that's what's inspiring me build this helicopter.I'll check to see if I can find it on dvd. Thanks again KEITH

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Posted by cygnusx1 on Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:04 AM

thanks for all the input and help. I saw one episode of "Inside Combat Rescue" and that is what is inspiring me to build this helicopter in a large scale so that I can make a diorama to honor there service.

I will try to find the series on dvd. Do you know where I can find some decals for 1/35 pavehawk units operating in Afganistan or do I have to piece them together from different sources?Also thanks for the heads up on the color.

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  • From: Valrico, FL
Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, April 9, 2013 4:32 PM

You will most likely have to paste together the decals for a current one in A'stan.  There are no AM,  current USAF HH-60G decal sets that I know of.  It shouldn't be too hard though.  The decals are pretty much all black with possibly a few unit shields/symbols and the black moustache on one of them.  They would be easy to print yourself using computer decal paper.

I have thought of doing the moustached "Pedro" myself.

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Posted by USAFSPOOK on Tuesday, April 9, 2013 5:31 PM

Did the "Pedro" call sign have anything to do with the "Pedro" nickname applied to the HH-43s used for rescue work during the early days in Vietnam?  That nose art on the Pave Hawks is pretty neat! It does not appear that the long range fuel tanks are fitted in the rear; is that what you guys see as well? Guess there is not much need for them.  I was surprised at the importance the crew put on making sure the Afghans being put inside, or even approaching the helo, were searched for weapons/explosives.  Given the incidents of Afghan troops' attacks on NATO/ISAF troops, its something that has become necessary.  

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  • From: Valrico, FL
Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:41 PM

"Did the "Pedro" call sign have anything to do with the "Pedro" nickname applied to the HH-43s used for rescue work during the early days in Vietnam?"

I believe it is the same unit and they have kept the "Pedro" call-sign.

Yup, due to short distances flown and lots of places to refuel, the internal tanks are not needed.  It also gives the crew some more much needed interior space.

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Posted by USAFSPOOK on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:14 PM

Something else I could not make out: Was each helicopter armed with the same weapon on each side or was one side armed with a .50 and the other a mini-gun the way the Marines armed their UH-1Ns?  The show kept switching from one helo to the other and I could not see both weapon stations in the same shot.  Cobra Company sells the external mounts with both weapons the same, so I assume this is correct, I just want to be certain.  I also could not tell if it made a difference which helo was lead, which was in trail, the .50 armed or mini gun armed? Would it matter which flew cover,which made the pick up?  I guess not since both had to make pick ups in certain instances, just wonder if someone knew for sure or what the 'correct procedure' was.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:56 PM

As for the external guns, it can either be the same guns on both sides or a mix of guns. The mix gives more flexability to respond.  It depends on the unit and the environment, but it seems that most units perfer not to mix weapons on the same bird these days.  As a model builder, you would not be wrong to mix them, or use a single weapons system configuration on your HH-60G Pavehawk.

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