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I wanted a project, and for my sins, they gave me one... (HH-3E Jolly Green Giant build thread)

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    February 2013
Posted by Raven Morpheus on Monday, August 5, 2013 5:42 AM

OK here's some pics, apologies for the quality as usual.

This shows the magnets holding the halves of the fuselage together, corresponding magnets on the other half, the fuselage is such a good fit that these 4 magnets is all that the model needs.

These next 2 pics show the undercarriage on and off, I've attached them using magnets, so I can remove them when I hang it from my ceiling...

Plasticard around the door, the door isn't fixed in, or at least it shouldn't be.  Still need to sand/file down the black plasticard as it's too thick in my opinion.

Rear ramp exterior -

Drop tanks are detachable, again magnets, wonderful little things, although I may take my razor saw to the bits on the end of each sponson where the drop tanks attach, hack them off, glue them to the drop tanks and then re-attach via magnets that way and smooth out the gap left on the sponsons, so that I can have the smooth sided sponsons or the drop tank holding sponsons -

Here you can see where I've had to fill the gaps in between the fuselage and the sponson where I've put Green Stuff to make them level, I tried using squadron filler, think I should have got some Mr Surfacer instead, you can also see the magnets that hold the undercarriage on -

That's it so far, I'm stuck waiting for my Fujimi SH-3H Sea King kit to arrive from Japan before I can progress much further.

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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 4, 2013 7:10 PM

go forth and sin no more

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    February 2013
Posted by Raven Morpheus on Sunday, August 4, 2013 6:53 PM

Looking for some M60's in 1/72 to put in the window on the left and door on the right and perhaps on the rear ramp, so far the only decent ones I've come across are these - www.herpa.de/.../detail.aspx

There in 1/87 and I'm not sure they're all M60's either.

And I may also be using this crew set as it has a gunner that may work for the door on the right hand side - www.modelhobbies.co.uk/.../productions-helicopter-crew-vietnam-721129-p-45357.html

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    February 2013
Posted by Raven Morpheus on Sunday, August 4, 2013 6:50 PM

Found some awesome reference pics the other day.

Here (Russian language site from what I can make out) - igor113.livejournal.com/191567.html

And here (not so close up though) - www.airliners.net/.../photo.search

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    February 2013
Posted by Raven Morpheus on Sunday, August 4, 2013 6:30 PM

Thanks Mel.  It's very likely that I measured it wrong anyway.

Anyhoo I've assembled the majority of the model that comes in the kit - there's not really a lot of it.  Nice build and the fuselage fits together quite nicely, although I think I need to sand down the "spine" of the helicopter to make it look less sharp where the fuselage halves meet.

I'm kind of hesitant of posting pics though, due to the lack of quality my BlackBerry 8900 gives, the pics I took of my Huey were a bit hit and miss, I'll see how some turn out this time.

I'm waiting on the Fujimi SH-3H which is obviously on a slow boat from Japan as it hasn't reached me yet, I can't progress much further without it.

But I do have some sanding/filing to do because I cut the door on the right hand side out (I like they way Helo-34 (Helo-53 on ARC) did that), but I got a bit over zealous (and used a Dremel which I probably shouldn't have) and there was quite a sizeable gap between what was left of the door and the rest of that half of the fuselage.  So I took some plasticard and cut it to fit around the door on the outside so it covers up the gap, but it's 40though (I think) plasticard and it looks too thick in my opinion, so I need to file/sand it down some.

I also added a piece of the same 40though plasticard to the rear door on the outside, because there were some rather nasty moulding circles on it, again it's a bit thick but doesn't look too bad, I can live with it, certainly looks better than the original door did on it's exterior.

@USAFSPOOK - Yes I saw the Black Mariah the other day.  Not sure I like a plain matt black Jolly Green though, but yes if I mess up the SEA camo I'll certainly consider it.  With regards to the landing gear - what would you recommend?  I can't really use the Fujimi SH-3H landing gear because I'll only have left/right because it doesn't have nose gear, just a tail wheel.

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    March 2003
  • From: Lafayette, LA
Posted by Melgyver on Thursday, August 1, 2013 9:13 AM
Regarding the lenght of helicopters most or the time this is total lenght including the main and tail rotor disks not just the fusalage.

Clear Left!

Mel

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  • From: Lexington, VA
Posted by USAFSPOOK on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:13 PM

You could do an overall black scheme to represent "Black Mariah" of the 20th SOS in Vietnam.  She now resides in the Museum of the United States Air Force.  The only markings are the serial number in red on the tail--39676.  Not sure if that is how marked during the war but is how she is marked now.  Many of the HH-3s used by the 20th and 21st SOS in Vietnam did not carry any markings or carried the national insignia in a removable bracket for cross border operations into Laos, so you could leave it in a SEA scheme with no markings at all--just the usual warning markings in red.  Might consider replacing the tail rotor and landing gear as well.

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    February 2013
I wanted a project, and for my sins, they gave me one... (HH-3E Jolly Green Giant build thread)
Posted by Raven Morpheus on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:23 AM

I have been inspired by Helo 53's awesome Jolly Green/Pelican builds (detailed here and on ARC) and I am now the proud owner of a Revell 1/72 HH-3E kit.  Cool

Instead of dumping the details of my progress into my Huey build thread I shall be detailing my progress of building it in this thread, the Huey thread is already bloated with pics and stuff and it's probably best to put a new build in it's own thread to keep things tidy.

The kit itself looks like a nice kit even though it was made in 1969, I noticed a little flash on some of the parts whilst briefly looking the model over but it's far better than the Revell UH-1 I bought and recently looked at building (the fuselage is more solid for a start).  Even though it's a 2nd hand kit all it's parts are there, but unfortunately the clear windscreen part has some marks on it.

I will also recommend the seller I bought it from - Kingkit.co.uk, I was a little dubious to being with the other day but it turns out there's been no probs with ordering the kit or receiving it, I ordered the kit on Saturday and received it today.  There are also a lot of older/pre-owned kits on there, including a couple of others I've been eyeing up...

I do however have a Fujimi 1/72 SH-3H on it's way from Japan that I will use for detailing the HH-3E, wish it would hurry up and get here now though...

The fuselage is shorter nose to tip of tail than I expected though, I did some number crunching based on the real life measurements of a HH-3E (found on WIkipedia) and the fuselage length should have been 310mm, but it's actually just a little over 230mm long.  Probably my error though.  However I am now wondering if a 1/48 HH-53 would really be the 559mm (22") length I calculated the other day...

I hope to make a better job of this kit than I have the ESCI UH-1D rotorwash kindly sent me - I feel that I let myself down with all the breakages and the rather bad gap in the fuselage halves that I could probably have fixed.

No pics of progress yet though, I only got the kit today and pics of the sprues can be found on the web easily enough.

I plan on using the colour scheme on the box art, I have seen it referred to as the SEA Camo scheme.  I've read that a good technique for doing it is to use blu-tack and masking tape to mask the various different colour areas off and then spray with an airbrush. 

Hopefully I can do that reasonably well with my Badger 250.

Some questions though before I start on it -

1.  What parts should I look at using from the Fujimi SH-3H kit.  I already know of using the engine intakes, the shield in front of the engine intakes (don't know the proper name for it), the rotors (blades and hub/mast), the cockpit/interior, and perhaps the "dog house" as I've heard it referred to - the top of the engine bay where the rotors poke through.  Anything else I could use from the Fujimi kit?

2.  Whilst I'm talking about the "dog house" - what's the best way to cut that off (on both the HH-3E and SH-3H)?  Straight cut down somewhere in the middle/back of that part and then a straight cut from the front to meet the downwards cut using a razor saw, or follow the contours of the bodywork with a knife?

3.  As it's the Revell kit, not the Lindberg kit do I even need to replace the "dog house"?  Where I've seen Helo 53 do it I think it was on a Lindberg kit that he kitbashed with a Revell Sea King?

4.  Decals.  The HH-3E kit itself comes with a sheet of just 11 decals.  Can anyone recommend any better decals (in 1/72 of course) that I could buy (and that are readily available)?

5.  Assuming I mess up the SEA Camo colour scheme would it be terribly inaccurate to paint it just plain OD?

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