1/35 scale helos

For Ppickett. hey man im working on the pave hawk, i dnt have the resources(money) to buy the photo etched detail set and they dnt sell those sets here. im having problems on were can i find then crew for the pave hawk. the DML helo crew doesnt look good to the pave hawk coz of the vietnam crew outfit. id love to some pics of your black hawk.

I'm new to the site but not new to Fine scale. I'm glad to be able to communicate with all you other "rotor heads" like myself. I too have just purchased Panda's UH1-D. I'm looking forward to converting it to a victor model. Keep up the good work and I look forward to communicating and sharing infor/photos with you all! My current project is an CH-54 complete with detail surgical pod.

Hey everyone,

Here's something different. What does everyone think about "accurizing" the 1:18th scale "toys" put out by 21st Century toys? I just picked up their UH-1C and its a GREAT basis for a Huey gunship, but needs major work with seams and accurizing. Does this count as modeling? The toy itself is beautifully done and is over 2 feet long. It only comes with one crewman, but I'm working on getting gunners and a copilot for it.

It's outfitted as a "Frog", with the grenade launcher in the nose and 2 XM-200 19-shot pods on the pylons. I'm thinking of removing the pods and scratchbuilding 7-shot pods an miniguns. Should be an adventure! The interior is sparse, but workable. It doesn't have the pantographic sight for the co-pilot, gotta scratchbuild that too. Its got a few other inaccuracies that need to be corrected, but other than that, it nicely captures the UH-1C in a MONSTROUS scale!

Love to hear what everyone else thinks!

Jon

To Werewolf,
I'm just getting started on the Black Hawk. I'll be happy to post some pics when I am finished. I'm still struggling with which final version I'm going for ... either the C&C L model or 'Double Vision', an A model. Both are pictured in my book. If you have any questions on details, don't hesitate to drop me an email. Good luck and I'll keep you posted. Even without the photo etched, you can be assured of a terrific looking kit!
To Hueymedic423,
Have you ever served with the Flat Irons? Their V Models were sharp looking Hueys with the gloss white finish. I plan on building either a 32nd scale Revell kit or one of the new Panda kits as a Flat Iron a/c after finishing my current project. From a former H Model medevac crew chief, safe flying and good modeling!
Paul

Hey Guys. I'm one of the 'Newbies' to this forum, but not to the magazine. I'm also a BIG fan of 1/35 helos. My father was a crew chief on a CH-46 in 'Nam, and I was with the Cobras in the Gulf. My father retired from the Marines a while back, I still have 5 years to go.

I am building a Whisky model Cobra for my MSgt with the same camo scheme like his sqdn had in the Gulf. I'll build mine later.

I built a CH-53 (D/E?) WAY back before I joined and I was looking for the model again. Any ideas? Might have been a Revell (probably 1/48).

Does any company make a CH-46 (preferably the Echo model) in any scale larger than 1/72? I woul like to build it for my Dad's 65th b'day this year.

Thank you.
r/s,
Shawn Straka
SSgt / USMC

Shawn,
I'm not aware of any Sea Knight kits available in anything larger than 1/72 scale, at least, not injected molded. The 1/48th kit you refer to of the '53 was a Revell kit. It includes decals for both a US C model and the German model (was that a 'G'?). I have not see one for sale in a long time and don't believe that the kit is going to be easy to find. I've got one with the conversion kit to make it a MH-53J but it's still waiting for me to start. So many kits .... so little time!
Good luck,
Paul

Panzer,

It's not a Sea knight but......Panda Models of china have released a NEW 2003 Catalogue that says they will have a 1/35 CH47-C Chinook this year and other chinook models later on......sounds like that MRC thing all over again....same kit different declas and parts.

The Panda 1/35 Hueys are very soft on detail and have over sized rivits.....stick with the MRC kits ten times better!

If you want a GOOD UH1-D Revells 1/32 scale is more accurate ...even for a 1968 kit! after building that kit at least 3 times since 1977 I can tell you alot of research went into those kits! even the dash/instruments are right on the money!

DANG! what a year for BIG kits! a 1/24 P51-D Mustang from Trump, 1/35 scale Chinook, 1/32 scale B-17 by Panda and a 1/72 scale U-boat from Revell of germany!!....I can die now.

Hey CobraHistorian,
Verlinden used to make a 1/32 scale Cobra Crew from the Vietnam Era. I remember seeing one in a hobby shop ten years ago. Trouble was that the pilots weren't siting. It really was made for a diorama. As to the UH-1C in 1:18, I am working on an 1:35 MRC kit. Nice thing about that kit is that it includes all the armements, miniguns, different rocket launchers, the grenade launcher. All kinds of Goodies! and for that one, I am using the DML Vietnam helicopet pilot crew as well. just got hung up on getting the fuselage together, and the engine got lost. Oh well!

Reluc,

Thanks for the tip on the Verlinden crew. I'll have to look into it. I converted a Tamiya 1/32 Phantom driver to a Cobra pilot, so I've got one guy seated. Looks pretty good. I just drilled out the helmet, cut a head to fit inside and removed some detail on the survival vest.

I've got a few of the MRC 1/35 UH-1C's, but I stole all of the miniguns from them for my Cobras (one has to have priorities! LOL)

The 1:18 UH-1C is pretty cool. Its got a LOT of room for improvement, but 21st Century Toys did a good job capturing the essence of the beast. I've filled, sanded and removed all of the seams, repainted it the proper shade OD and now I'm trying to decide whether I want to remove the "chunker" on the nose or not. Its got 19 shot rocket pods, so miniguns are pretty much out of the question. I've also incorporated M-60s on bungee cords for the door gunners and corrected the antennas (they had a cable cutter on it instead of the blade antenna). I'm gonna end up painting it as one of the birds from the 1/9 Cav, 1st Cav Division. That is, when I get a spare second to work on it!

"Rolling in Hot!"

Jon

hi,
i'm building fevells "super puma bgs" in 1/32.
what pains me is there is a lot of degree of detailing to be done here,if you want to.
why dont the model companies put more into the internal details as there is a big "greenhouse",but sparse detail.tamiya can do it,why not the others.
ps living where i do,my best models are mail order from hannants(.co.uk)
try them for your afer market stuff & rare kits,
merv

Most Model Companies make choices due to size and cost....They want to produce a kit that people have asked for but want to keep the cost at a rate that will not scare them off....like Tamiya!...he he, Thats why you see alot of NO INTERIOR or NO thrills kits out there.

UPDATE!.....I just receievd two pics from Frank White of the Nam Chinook crew Guns a Go Go! and HE has two pics from MRC of 1/35 scale CHINOOK molds that were made a couple years ago ...but the project fell though....now I do remember talk of all that but forgot all about it........Maybe Panda bought those molds? AND! I can't even imagin why MRC dropped that idea!?! send me a e-mail and I will foward you the two pics....its faster than me posting them on my page plus I'm running out of room!

If Tamiya or any other company is listening, here is an untapped market for a whole series of models...imagine a Russian MI-24 Hind, or an early UH-1HB or C model...a Korean war MASH helicopter would be lovely too...

Both MRC and Revell have Bell H-13 chopper kits, MRC's is a treu Korean War machine, Revell's is the Bell 47-G. MRC also has a couple of UH1-C kits as well. Check your local hobby shop or mail order companies. Good luck!

Isn't the Revell H-13 in 32nd scale?
We need some continuity in this scale range! I mean the most decent Vietnam era Cobra is in 1/32. Until recently, the only available UH-1D/H was in 32nd scale. Everything seems to be going towards 35th and away from 32nd. SO WHY HAVEN"T WE SEEN A 1:35 SINGLE ENGINED COBRA YET?????
MRC? PANDA? ANYONE????

Rolling in hot!

Jon

AMEN!

1/32 is a much better scale for helos!

Choppers are to small of a subject for 1/72 or 1/48th as it is!

1/35 is ok and works well for diromas BUT! 1/32 is the BEST!

Same goes for WWII fighters....TOO DANG SMALL for anything but 1/32!

I heard rumors that Panda might be coming out with a 1/35 UH-1N....I certainly hope so. I have their "D" model....and they just "happen" to have given the "D" an "N" rotor head and blades...so it makes sense to now give us the "N" model airframe. As a former "N" driver....I'm excited to say the least. Any idea on when this might come out?

The Revell 47 kit is in 1/35 scale..Their older Huey and Cobra kits are 1/32.

Hey Hatter50,
I'm a former 'H' model Medevac crew chief and I've never seen Huey rotor blades with a variable cord such as is included in the Panda kit (and Italeri 1/48th kit, from which it came). The blades are wider for the majority of the length than they are at the blade grips. Is this accurate for some N models?
Paul

Super topic. I ampresently working on a 3' X 8' Sandtable diorama of the Mogadishu incident. I just bought my third Academy UH-60L Helicopter. They go together pretty well. Here's my problem: I need to find 2 models of the AH-6 Little Bird helicopter (one to cover crash site 1 and one to land on the road, etc. Oh, then I need one to land Delta on the Target house. Does anyone know where I can find that model? I've checked everywhere. The one I've seen on the web is Dragon #3527, but others might do if they're 1/35 scale. Help!
I have a lot of the other stuff I need: 38 figures (modern day, which is hard to find a good assortment), 2 of 6 HMMV's, 2 of 3 flatbed trucks, and of course Super 6-1, 6-4, and the CSAR bird.
HELP!!!!!!!

Hello ppicket. Sorry it took me a while to notice your question for me.

The "N" model blade is totally different from the D & H blade. Yes, there is an additional 2" strip added along the trailing edge of ALL N blades. This adds lifting power. Notice that the tip is also "thinned" in thickness, not fat like the D & H. This makes for a much quieter flying blade. The Panda depiction is pretty good....for an N blade, not for a D.

Cmndctr,

Have you seen the DML 1/35th Delta figures?? THey're pretty good from what I remember. I built the set when it first came out in the mid 90s. Try ebay for the OH/MH/AH-6 kits. I just got a 32nd scale OH-6 for $11 there. I think someone just came out with resin modern helicopter crew figures too.

Rolling in Hot!

Jon

What can we do about the rotor blades in Panda's D kit? Are there aftermarket replacements?

OK guys,

I just got the Hobbycraft 1/32 OH-6A. Anyone here built it before? Are there any aftermarket kits for it? Obviously the Eduard set is 1/35 and isn't gonna fit. Anyone got any thoughts on it? I've got enough external reference shots, anyone got any interior sources?

Rolling in Hot (or should I say "taking fire!" now?)

Jon

Jon... I'm not familiar with that kit; the only 1:32 Loach kit I have is the OOOOLD Revell kit, which has been re-issued. There are a few more recent 1:35 kits... can't remember the manufacturer and too lazy to go check my stash. How is it? Separate doors?

Here's a shot from my personal collection:



A good reference book is that old Squadron "Gunslingers In-Action," and you should also look for Aero series #38.

I have the pilot's manual should you need any scans.

FITTER out

Fitter,

Thanks! I've got the "Gunslingers" book. I actually bought one of the original profiles on the back cover from Lou Drendel a few months ago. I don't have the kit yet, should be here within the next few days, just in time to celebrate finishing the damn book! I haven't decided on a paint scheme yet, but it'll be from C/1/9

Rolling in Hot!

Jon

Hey Fitter, cool photo. Got anymore you can share?

Cobrahist,
I have a set of the Delta Force Somalia Figures. Gotta get more. I have the modern blah blah blah figures, too. Alot of them don't have the detail I need, like the goggles on their helmets. Wait'll you see this thing, though. Picture a 3x8 door (shelaqued, caulked, etc.) with walls 4 inches high. plenty of sand so the elevation in different spots is correct. Then I have the Target building in upper left, Durant crash site (being overrun) in lower left, The convoy moving through the streets left center to center to bottom center (it should look like they're heading to NEITHER crash site), Then Wolcott crash site and ending positions for the trrops spread out in an upside down L from top right to bottom right. Some people say try not to fit too much in one diorama, but the whole issue with that scene was that there was SO MUCH going on at once. Itneeds to make the viewer feel overwhelmed. Any ideas anyone???

QUOTE: Originally posted by midnightprowler Hey Fitter, cool photo. Got anymore you can share?

Oh, I suppose so...



The 1:20 scale Nichimo kit had the complete engine, almost a separate kit in itself... here's a page from their coloring guide:



Be advised: this kit is of the civilian Hughes 500, as witnessed by the civvie control panel. SOMEDAY I'll convert mine to OH-6A specs. I must have bought that kit back in the late ' 70's, when Hawk kits were still plentiful. Anyone remember their series of chromed "bare metal" kits?

FITTER out

Yep! I built thier 1/48 P51-D in the Chrome finish.

Is that Nichimo kit hard to find?

Is the 1/20 scale kit still around? I bet it's huge!! Do you have any photos?