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Streetcar Tracks
Posted by Leddy on Tuesday, November 8, 2016 12:44 PM

I am starting a diorama that will have some damaged streetcar tracks in 1945 Berlin. I am using Tamiya paints.  I primed them grey. What color do you recommend for a slightly rusted track ,  red brown?? Are there better colors. I will give a Mig enamel wash with a rust cast. Thanks for your input.

Leddy

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, November 8, 2016 1:54 PM

Hello!

It's always best to take a look at the real thing:

Streetcar tracks in Lviv

That's how the tracks look when used daily. The colour of the rusty portion is grey with a sligtly brown tone to it. After a few weeks of not being used the shiny surfaces turn dull and might get a light brown, almost orange misting.

Hope it helps, good luck with your project and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, November 13, 2016 3:49 AM

Sounds like a situation made to order for Humbrol's "Track Colour" which is very nearly the perfect brown/red/grey color.

Leather with some NATO black would work, too.

Finish the topp edges in Steel, then burnish with a pencil for the highlights.

For damaged track, I'd probably dry brush "Burnt Iron" of the ends to tone down the effect, too.

From Pawel's photo abobe, a person could be forgiven for starting fro ma base of, say, panzer grey, hevily washed in Steel, with Silver on the bearing surface.

But, that's just my 2¢; for coffee at the shop you'll need some folding local currency.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, November 13, 2016 11:28 AM

If I want to show really rusty stuff, I like to use two shades of rust, dry brushing the second color over the first.  Rust colors can range from brown to reddish brown to a yellow/buff.  Some rust is even black.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, November 13, 2016 12:39 PM

 Hi Don ;

     The old tracks in my area are very heavy with rust . The damaged areas .Not being bomb torn or anything are blackish red orangy looking with flashes of metal here and there .

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Posted by richs26 on Monday, November 14, 2016 1:58 AM

Since you are depicting Berlin in 1945, the tracks wouldn't be that rusty from disuse.  They would have bright orange surface rust here and there.  They wouldn't be that rusty since rails are a very good grade of steel.  It would take years for them to turn a dull rusty brown, though faster in a sea environment, which Berlin isn't.

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Posted by Leddy on Monday, November 14, 2016 7:21 PM

Thanks! How would you do a manholecover and a street drain grate?  Woold they be steel wwith rust built up? 

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 1:54 AM

Hello!

Please take a look at this link:

https://www.google.de/search?q=gully+deckel&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiPrZ-YoarQAhUGBcAKHa5MApUQ_AUICSgC&biw=1680&bih=939

That should give you a good idea about the colour range. Some rust - yes, but don't go too heavy with it. That cover or grate would have to sit there for months or even years before it develops any really serious rust.

Hope it helps, have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Leddy on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:03 AM

Mr. Pavel,   thanks that was helpful!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, November 17, 2016 8:53 PM

Leddy
a manholecover and a street drain grate?

Ironwork like that is often given a bitheumin (tar oil) coaating so that they will not rust while sitting out in the weather in the street.

I'd go for a base coat of NATO Black then heavily drybrushed with a pure black, then highlighted using a #2 pencil, with a teeny tiny amount of Leather in cracks and crevices.

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