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1/48 Hasegawa P-47 D-5 RE Thunderbolt 4th FG (Beeson) FINISHED

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1/48 Hasegawa P-47 D-5 RE Thunderbolt 4th FG (Beeson) FINISHED
Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, October 19, 2017 1:29 AM

Here's a kit I got off eBay for a song a few years ago and it's been staring at me from the stash ever since.  It's true that the Tamiya version is the bee's knees and perhaps my all time favorite kit, but I've always been curious to see how this one compared to it. As I sat there working on the Tamiya Jug, I figured I'd drag this one out and build it right along with the Tamiya one.  Please join me.

This one will don the makings of the 4th FG Duane Willard "Bee" Beeson. Unlike the 56th FG, the 4th hated the Jug.  Beeson however liked it, as he was one of the few 4th FG pilots to achieve success in it.  He was their first ace and would have 12 kills in the Jug.  He would score the rest in the P-51.  Beeson would finish the war with 19.5 kills only to die in 1947 from a brain tumor.  He was only 25 years old.  

     

On to the kit.  I started with the cockpit.  It's not bad, but nowhere near the level of Tamiya.  For example, check out the seat comparison (Tamiya on the left). 

   

I ended up using the Tamiya seat in this kit (I had a spare).  I added some PE belts to spruce it up.  The Dull Dark Green is a mix of XF-26 Deep Green and XF-8 Flat Blue. I used the supplied decal for the instrument panel. I think it turned out ok.   

  

I turned my attention to the airframe.  On the Hasegawa kit, the whole lower wing and fuselage is one piece (See picture).  The fit is pretty bad and required ALOT of filling, sanding and re-scribing. The front seam was a trench and needed a styrene plug to fill.

 

The wingroots do fit nice though.  This paricular kit seems to be void of the dreaded Hasegawa wing root gaps, which is a plus.  This kit does not offer dropped flaps or open cowl flaps like Tamiya.  It's my understanding the flaps should be raised when they were parked, so this is a non issue to me.  I can also say Tamiya's overall surface detail is much better too. This kit is on the basic side.   

I eventually got the frame to an acceptable place (seans filled and sanded).  8th AF Jugs at the time had white cowls rings and tail surface stripes.  This was reportedly done so bomber crews, particularly the gunners, could distinguish them from Fw 190s.  I suppose friendly fire was a problem when the fighters were zipping by at 350-400 mph.  The XF-2 Flat White was sprayed cut with a touch of XF-19 Sky Gray to tone it down.  I also sprayed where the insignias would go in anticipation of the Montex masks.  

   

The white was taped off and Montex masks were used for the insignias.

   

I sprayed the underside XF-53 Neutral Grey which was then faded with XF-2 Flat White.  

I used Blue Tac to mask off the demarcation lines then fired down Gunze Olive Drab.  Their OD is perfect to my eye.  I added XF-57 Buff then faded and streaked the surface.  The Montex masks were removed and the insignias came out great.

I then turned my attention to the engine.  I actually think its better than Tamiya's version.  I added ignition wires with stereo wire. If you care to see how I do this, see this thread:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/149327.aspx

To compare, here's Tamiya's example.  Note the cylinder cooling fins which are nearly non-existent.

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Thursday, October 19, 2017 4:15 AM
Another beauty Joe.

 

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, October 19, 2017 5:51 AM

Fantastic as usual!

Toshi

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 19, 2017 8:05 AM

As usual Joe- stunning work! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by RadMax8 on Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:34 PM

Joe, I am in awe of your painting abilities. I need to figure out how you do this, because your results are simply breathtaking. I know it's odd to describe it that way, but Here we are. 

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Posted by ManCityFan on Friday, October 20, 2017 5:25 PM

Hey Joe, another stunner in the works.  If you did a beginning to end video of a build, I would watch every minute.  Everything you build is fantastic.  

Thanks for sharing,

D

Dwayne or Dman or just D.  All comments are welcome on my builds. 

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Posted by Hunter on Friday, October 20, 2017 5:35 PM

Mr. Joe,

I don't know what to say that hasn't already been said. I'm not surprised? Beautiful job on everything. If I haven't already said it....thank you again for your engine tutorial...I have been practicing on that. 

Hunter 

      

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Posted by 1943Mike on Friday, October 20, 2017 10:53 PM

Superlative start to your build.

Joe, I realize there are many tutorials online regarding fading but I was wondering what method you use. My guess is adding white or light gray to the color to be faded and airbrushing a thin mixture onto the panels/sections of the aircraft model. But how thin, what distance from the model, and at what air pressure?

Mike

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, October 21, 2017 1:06 AM

1943Mike

 

Joe, I realize there are many tutorials online regarding fading but I was wondering what method you use. My guess is adding white or light gray to the color to be faded and airbrushing a thin mixture onto the panels/sections of the aircraft model. But how thin, what distance from the model, and at what air pressure?

 

 

Thanks guys..

 

Mike, I just add Tamiya buff to the OD, no thinning. I get in fairly close at low pressure. Lately I've been mixing panel fading with streaking and have been pleased with the effect. 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, October 28, 2017 3:32 AM

I'm calling this one done too.  As I initially said, I wanted to see how this Hasegawa Jug holds up to the Tamiya version, so I built both in tandem.  When the Tamiya Jug was released in 2004, lots of modelers said "why?....we have a nice Hasegawa version already".  Well, it turns out this one is Junior Varsity compared to the Tamiya kit in just about every way (except the engine...my personal opinion).  I found the Hasegawa kit to be average at best, particularly in detail.  It's perhaps a tad undersized too, as the fuselage seemed narrower than the Tamiya one. This was also apparent when I tried to add the better Tamiya gun barrels and they wouldn't fit in the holes.  The most discouraging issue was perhaps the lower wing to fuselage attachment.  It was ridiculous and a true test in sanding, filling and scribing. 

This all said, I still endeavored to get the most out of it.  I shoe-horned in a Tamiya seat with PE belts.  I added one of the 65 propeller choices from the Tamiya kit as these were much better detailed than the Has prop.  I then drilled out the fifties and used a set of Ultracast wheels.  I still have to add the aerial wire.  

Verdict? Not bad, but I think I'll stick with the Tamiya kit for future Thunderbolt projects.  It's just not in the same league.  I'm going to have to try the same experiment with their respective P-51 D kits, as I have several of each in the stash.    

Thanks for following...

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Saturday, October 28, 2017 6:01 AM
Nice. My next Jug is the Tamiya kit

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Saturday, October 28, 2017 7:22 AM

This was actually a local guy. The Boise Bee (P-51) is at our airfield (Warhawk Air Museum) most of the time when not out touring and on display elsewhere. Well done again, Joe.

BK

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:29 AM

BrandonK

This was actually a local guy. The Boise Bee (P-51) is at our airfield (Warhawk Air Museum) most of the time when not out touring and on display elsewhere. 

 

 

Thanks guys...

Very cool Brandon. His Mustang is on my bucket list too.  This build will be for sale soon and would make a nice addition to the museum.....lol.    

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, October 29, 2017 4:38 AM

What you’re capable of doing is taking a mediocre Thunderbolt kit and turning it into a fantastic masterpiece as you did with this kit.  The end result is just harder than the Tamiya P-47 and your experiment is impeccable as usual.

I learn so much from your WIP’s it’s incredible and I thank you for sharing your skills with us.  

Your friend, Toshi

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, October 29, 2017 7:55 PM
Thanks Toshi, I'm glad you get use out of my threads.

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Posted by BrandonK on Sunday, October 29, 2017 8:03 PM

I was gonna build his mustang but I haven't been able to find the nose art in 1/48. If you find one let me know.

BK

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Posted by RadMax8 on Sunday, October 29, 2017 9:25 PM

Joe, looks pretty good to my eye. Also good to know about the differences in kits! My future purchases will definitely be from Tamiya for this bird. 

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Posted by 1943Mike on Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:06 PM

Another fine build - and thanks for the reply about your fading method.

What's next Joe?

Mike

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, October 30, 2017 12:20 AM

1943Mike

What's next Joe?

 

Thanks guys...

Mike, it will be my first natural metal P-38.  I'll be doing Ilfrey's Happy Jack's Go Buggy with the good old Hasegawa kit.  I'm going to go back to building one at a time for a while.  I was stretching myself too thin building three at a time, that is of course until that new tooled Airfix P-51 shows up on the doorstep. Wink.  

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 9:48 AM

Another beauty there Joe for your collection! Love the faded look on the olive drab. 

 

Personally I've described the Tamiya P-47 as a Cadillac and the Hasegawa kit as a Buick... Wink

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, November 2, 2017 1:47 AM
Thanks Gamera. I'm thinking more Chevrolet than Buick...lol.

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