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1/48 Airfix P-51 D 357th FG Don Bochkay
Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, December 01, 2017 12:30 AM

I do enjoy a good Tamiya P-51 D build. I'm usually good for about one a year and even have a "recipe" to improve it's flaws (that's another story).  This was fine and dandy until I saw the sprue shots of Airfix's new P-51D.  I could not wait to get my hands on this kit and pre-ordered one immediately.  Well, It showed up on the doorstep from the UK the other day and I'm diving right in. (my N1K1 just got back burnered). I grabbed some new Eduard goodies for it too.  

I plan on doing Don Bochkay's 357 FG Ace of Clubs mount.  Bochkay was a 14.8 (some sources 13.5?) kill ace to include two ME 262 jets.  He was of four pilots that often flew together, that being Bochkay, Yeager, Anderson, and Browning, all aces who wrought absolute havoc on the Luftwaffe.   

   

I started with the cockpit.  It's hands down better than Tamiya's example.  For starters, the Merlin Mustang had a wooden floor which had a black coating on it.  I wanted to show this with some of it worn off exposing the wood.  Enter my first attempt at AK's worn effects.

I sprayed the floor XF-49 Khaki then used clear orange over it.  To my eye this looks like varnished wood.  I then sprayed the AK down and let it dry.  After a coat of XF-1 flat black, I wet an old Testors paint brush (the cheap white handled ones) and scuffed the floor where the pilot's feet would go.  I'm pleased with the result.

    

Back to the rest of the pit.  I sprayed Gunze Interior Green over a XF-1 black base.  The sidewall detail is awesome and they even give you placard decals....nice touch!. I'm not sure I like the checkered seat pad and molded in seatbelts, but painted up and washed it looks ok.  In the future this will definitely get replaced with an Ultracast seat (yes, I already ordered another P-51). The instrument panel is a decal and it performed ok, nothing special.  I may use Airscale dial decals next time.  I added some wires to the battery.

    

The cockpit and bottom radiator fit like a glove.

This kit has separate tail pieces that have to be glued on.  I'm guessing they have an early tail fillet-less Mustang coming. Here I have the tailwheel assembly added and I have test fitted the fuselage.  Fit is great so far.

So far..........very impressed.  

 

 

 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Friday, December 01, 2017 6:14 AM
Well this is going to put a monkeywrench in the Tamiya Mustang dominance. I've built the Airfix 1/72 P-51D and was very impressed.

 

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Posted by fermis on Friday, December 01, 2017 8:31 AM

Ditto

The first 1/72 Airfix 51 I did was alongside Tamiyas 1/72 51....I've done another 6 Airfix 51's since, with another pair in the stash...but not another Tamiya!

I like the looks of this one, aside from the seat "cushion", which I have never seen to look like that(???). Very nice job so far....as always!

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, December 01, 2017 9:10 AM

I will be following this build. I am quite interested in that kit.  Is there any PE out for it yet?

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Rambo on Friday, December 01, 2017 12:10 PM

Looks awsome so far, you must never sleep just build.

Clint

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Friday, December 01, 2017 12:23 PM

Looks really good. Liking the worn wood effect. 

I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays out.

-J

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Posted by silentbob33 on Saturday, December 02, 2017 12:02 PM
I'm pretty interested in this kit and would love it if they came out with a fillet-less version. I was hoping this version would give you the option but hopefully we'll get it in the near future. So far you're doing a great job.

On my bench: AMT X-Wing (1/48ish?) rebuild

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Posted by RadMax8 on Saturday, December 02, 2017 2:53 PM

Wow, good to see this new kit is up to the hype. 

What is it about props that modeling companies always get wrong? Is it just the fine detail lost due to the nature of injection molding?

I’d be interested in hearing your remedy for the Tamiya kit. I’ve coll a couple in my stash...

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Posted by Hunter on Monday, December 04, 2017 8:50 AM

Joe,

I have no words....Outstanding work on the pit. I'll be hanging around until you finish her.

Hunter 

      

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Posted by BrandonD on Wednesday, December 06, 2017 11:49 AM

Oh this is nice...

I've held off buying this kit simply because I have the Meng one almost done and am waiting on Eduard's kit, but I also have a weakness for the Mustang so may end up with one.

How are the panel lines? That's been my drawback on buying one, as they looked large in the photos I saw. Hopefully they're more refined.

-BD-

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:50 AM

As always sir; what a fantastic start.  I’ll be looking for more.

Your friend, Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

ON THE BENCH:

Revell B-17G Flying Fortress 

NEXT BUILD:

Mrs. Toshi just purchased for me a Tamiya 1/48 Ki-61 via eBay, when it arrives, as always, I’ll do a WIP.  Thanks to M.Brindos and Model Maniac for the heads up and the inspiration in obtaining this kit for my next build.

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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, December 07, 2017 3:10 AM

Seems Airfix has turned a corner!  I haven't built one of their kits in some time.  Your work is fantastic - I'm sure you're making them look good ;)

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Posted by templar1099 on Thursday, December 07, 2017 4:12 AM

Your 'pits' are truly works of art, can't wait for the finish.

"le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile"

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Posted by M. Brindos on Thursday, December 07, 2017 8:44 AM

Airfix did such an amazing job with the P-40 I'm not surprised this kit is solid too. So far the 109 is just average and a bit of a let down in the pit, but the fit is still nice. Almost Tamiya quality.

So, any progress to report?

- Mike Brindos

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, December 08, 2017 7:09 PM

Don Stauffer
Is there any PE out for it yet?

Thanks all,

There's tons of stuff out there for his kit already, even PE.  I bought Eduard wheels, prop, and exhausts which I haven't decided if I'm going to use them yet or not.  

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, December 08, 2017 7:14 PM

RadMax8
What is it about props that modeling companies always get wrong? Is it just the fine detail lost due to the nature of injection molding?

I’d be interested in hearing your remedy for the Tamiya kit. I’ve coll a couple in my stash...

Good Question.  The props on this one looks ok.  Not sure if I will use the AM prop I bought.  

Here's a thread addressing how to improve the Tamiya kit.  I know there's no pic thanks to photosucket, but you should get the gist. 

  http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/162455.aspx

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, December 08, 2017 7:16 PM

BrandonD
How are the panel lines? That's been my drawback on buying one, as they looked large in the photos I saw. Hopefully they're more refined.

A bit heavy I suppose, but it doesn't really detract from the kit.  

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, December 11, 2017 1:28 AM

Bench time has been at a premium lately, but I'm in for an update. For starters, check out that gear bay.  Finally someone got it right (Oh yeah..Meng did too).  My research has shown that the correct painting for a "factory" P-51 gearbay is silver with the rear spar in Zinc Chromate.  I painted it accordingly.

The thing goes together like a dream.  I had zero issues.  The control surfaces are all seperate so I posed them a bit.

How about them machine guns?  The best I've seen so far.  They even nailed the inboard fifties which are recessed.  On this kit these are inserts which fit fairly well. 

  

The windscreen design is ingenius too. No awkward seam where the glass meets metal, like on the Tamiya kit. The fit is great too. I went ahead and masked the windows and added the piece before paint.

 

Time to start painting.  The 357th FG has a red and yellow checkered nose with a yellow stripe on the spinner.  My strategy will be to paint in the checkers but use a decal for the spinner. I've tried many times to paint in this spinner stripe and I can never get it right.  It always comes out lop-sided...I surrender!  Fortunately I have an old Eagle Strike sheet that supplies these and they work well.  Anyways, I started withXF-1 Flat Black then added XF-7 Flat Red.

Now I had to add the yellow checkers. I used an old 357 decal sheet to match the size and shape of the checkers with Tamiya tape.  This was sort of tedious but I managed.

 

I extended the length backwards to ensure it was long enough. The correct size will be taped off before the NMF application.

Checkers are done...not to shabby.  Time to tape it off.

I then sprayed Alclad Duraluminum.  This is my go-to base shade for combat aircraft, not too shiny or too dull.  

I sprayed the panels by the exhaust Magnesium and other various panels in Dark Aluminum, Semi Matte Aluminum, and Aluminum.  This is perhaps my favorite part of this process.  It starts to come alive!

 

I was going to throw down the Olive Drab anti-glare panel, but I ran out of time.  I must say, this one has been awesome so far. A couple nit-picks, if you want to call them that. I don't particularly like the light grey almost white colored plastic that Airfix uses.  I prefer the normal darker grey as its easier to see seams.  Also, a couple of areas, such as the flaps and belly radiator area are lacking in detail compared to Tamiya.  Not a deal breaker, just an observation.      

 

 

 

 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by damouav on Monday, December 11, 2017 2:51 AM

S T U N N I N G !

Pure, just like a good 30 year Scotch!

Keep it comming!

P.S. Wishing you and your family all the very best for the "silly" season, and a safe and enjoyable 2018!

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1/48 Tamiya P-47-D Bubbletop
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Posted by Shipwreck on Monday, December 11, 2017 5:55 AM

These new Airfix kits continue to impress me. They are of good quality and prices. I hope that we can reward Airfix by buying their products. If I was not 68 years old and wondering what to do with my stash, I would be buying them. But I no longer buy any new models. However, somehow the Airfix 1/48 P-40B is setting here!

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     1/48 Star Wars X-wing

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Posted by Rambo on Monday, December 11, 2017 8:19 AM

Shipwreck

These new Airfix kits continue to impress me. They are of good quality and prices. I hope that we can reward Airfix by buying their products. 

 

I Agree, think this will be my first Airfix kit for the stash.

Lawdog as always amazing work. 

Clint

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Posted by Shipwreck on Monday, December 11, 2017 9:46 AM

 

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Rambo

Lawdog as always amazing work. 

 
 
That is the problem with comparing kits on this thread; no matter which kit Lawdog is building, it will turn out to be tremendous. So Joe, here is a challenge for you. When you do your next round of Mustangs; get yourself a Revell 1/48 P-51D and build it like you did this Airfix kit (maybe different markings). Then compare it to your Airfix and Tamiya Mustangs and let us know if the end products are worth the extra  $20 or so.

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     1/48 Star Wars X-wing

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     Stain kitchen and bathroom cabinets

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, December 11, 2017 11:39 AM

Great job there yet again Joe! Love the cockpit and the NM finish. 

And amazing to find Tamiya trumped, I thought no one would best the Tamiya P-51 for years...

 

One question though if I may? I'd always read the USAAF puttied, sanded, and then overpainted all the panel lines on the wings except the control surfaces and ammo doors to enhance the streamlining of the wings. It was supposed to give them a good 5-10 extra mph. Is this wrong or was the material never added or removed from his fighter?

"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children that dragons can be killed." -G.K. Chesterton

 

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Posted by 1943Mike on Monday, December 11, 2017 12:44 PM

 

Gemera,

Here's a link that has other links within it. It should help a little in understanding the factory puttying process and how the planes weathered after delivery.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/thread/1468346654/Natural+metal+P-51B+Mustang+wing+questions

 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 1:48 AM

Your NMF is stunning just like your fantastic work on the Hasegawa P-38 finish.

Your friend, Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

ON THE BENCH:

Revell B-17G Flying Fortress 

NEXT BUILD:

Mrs. Toshi just purchased for me a Tamiya 1/48 Ki-61 via eBay, when it arrives, as always, I’ll do a WIP.  Thanks to M.Brindos and Model Maniac for the heads up and the inspiration in obtaining this kit for my next build.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 7:27 AM

1943Mike

 

Gemera,

Here's a link that has other links within it. It should help a little in understanding the factory puttying process and how the planes weathered after delivery.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/thread/1468346654/Natural+metal+P-51B+Mustang+wing+questions

 

 

Thanks Mike! Great thread there. I'm going to print out those diagrams of what should be covered and not on the wings. I tried this last Tamiya P-51 I built, I hated to cover up all that amazing detail they'd molded into the wings. 

"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children that dragons can be killed." -G.K. Chesterton

 

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Posted by Shipwreck on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:35 AM

Gamera

 

 
 

Gemera,

  …I hated to cover up all that amazing detail they'd molded into the wings. 

 

 

Gemara, if you are doing a generic Mustang, you will probably want to putty those wings. But if you are doing a specific plane at a specific point in time you may want to study your resources closely. You may be able to determine that your model should not be puttied over. For one thing that putty could be worn off, or it may be taken off in order to save weight; or so I have read. When in doubt I would putty, but putty is not the final word!

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     Stain kitchen and bathroom cabinets

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 10:21 AM

Shipwreck

 

 
Gamera

 

 
 

Gemera,

  …I hated to cover up all that amazing detail they'd molded into the wings. 

 

 

 

 

Gemara, if you are doing a generic Mustang, you will probably want to putty those wings. But if you are doing a specific plane at a specific point in time you may want to study your resources closely. You may be able to determine that your model should not be puttied over. For one thing that putty could be worn off, or it may be taken off in order to save weight; or so I have read. When in doubt I would putty, but putty is not the final word!

 

Thanks Shipwreck! Only problem is most of the USAAF aircraft I've been building the only photos I've seen are of the nose-art. Tongue Tied

I was wondering last night about F-51s used in the Korean War and later National Guard service. I think I've heard somewhere the putty was removed on them but I am by no means sure. 

"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children that dragons can be killed." -G.K. Chesterton

 

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Posted by 1943Mike on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:01 AM

Joe,

The eloquent discourses and accompanying images you present us in your works in progress are always pleasurable viewing. This build is no exception .. superlatives have already been fittingly used to descibe your work .. I second all of them.

Another question .. How long does one need to let Alcad dry before masking it .. as in your having masked different panels for different shades of NMF? And..do you use Tamiya masking tape? If not, then what?

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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