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Interior Color For A SBD-1 Dauntless At Pear Harbor

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Interior Color For A SBD-1 Dauntless At Pear Harbor
Posted by PACIFICWARJOHN on Sunday, July 08, 2018 6:10 PM

I was wondering If Anyone Knows The Interior Color Of A SBD-1 Dauntless That Would Have Been At Pearl Harbor in 1941

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, July 09, 2018 11:00 AM

Pretty high odds it was aluminum.

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Posted by UnwaryPaladin on Monday, July 09, 2018 11:39 AM

I have an SBD-1 in the line up, wondering the same thing! It seems like the interior finish was in a state of transition around the time of Pearl Harbor, so aluminum or some shade of interior green? 

Looking forward to more opinions on this

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, July 09, 2018 8:46 PM

You could likely go with either aluminum lacquer or interior green. TBDs in the pre war Yellow Wings were seen with green interiors, so likely Douglas also did the switch on the SBD around the same time. 

 

 

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Posted by richs26 on Monday, July 09, 2018 9:22 PM

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, July 09, 2018 9:33 PM

That first link leads to one of those stupid amazon redirects...

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Posted by richs26 on Monday, July 09, 2018 9:39 PM

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 2:36 PM

Here is a great original color photo of one in late 1941 off Quantico. If you look close at the cockpit, you can see green on the rollover structure behind the pilot. 

 

 

This overall gray scheme with the the white lettering is how they would have looked at MCAS Ewa on the morning of the attack.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 3:19 PM

Scorched

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Posted by fotofrank on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 3:55 PM

stikpusher

Here is a great original color photo of one in late 1941 off Quantico. If you look close at the cockpit, you can see green on the rollover structure behind the pilot. 

 

 

This overall gray scheme with the the white lettering is how they would have looked at MCAS Ewa on the morning of the attack.

 

 

Up close, the ADF loop, in front of the backseater, looks like it's green too.

OK. On the bench:

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 4:43 PM

Would tend to agree, some kind of zinc chromate coating, just for the corrosion resistance in a salt air envirionment.

 

In the link photos, the alum. interior does make the detail painting pop though.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 4:54 PM

GMorrison

Scorched

 

yeah... pretty much...

 

 

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Posted by VA Spartan on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 10:03 AM

Interesting comment about SBDs never being coated with aluminum lacquer in the cockpit.  Accurate Miniatures‘ pre-war SBD-1 boxing does indicate that the cockpit was aluminum lacquer and I believe does describe how the coating was made in the instructions.  I have that kit in the que to build so it looks as if I have a decision to make.  Not looking at the instructions right now, but I wonder what AM’s reference was.

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Posted by VA Spartan on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 11:51 AM

So I just looked at the instructions for the AM SBD-1, and it does say that pre-war, “All aircraft were primed with zinc chromate finish on all metal surfaces, inside and out.  Silver lacquer was applied over the primer.”  

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 12:57 PM

Well, period color photos show the interior green on SBD-1s. Most photos of SBD-1s, even b&w, show something other than aluminum lacquer in there. There is too much tonal and reflective difference on interior components visible in the b&w photos that do not match the aluminum lacquer exterior. Not so much photo evidence to support the lacquer interiors as commonly used. I’d say that interior green is the safer bet. Model companies are known to err in their instruction sheet color call outs.

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:31 PM

In the link provided, one of the posters/researchers said something along the line of "I think this is what it might be" and supposedly the model company took it as gospel for their color callouts......

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 2:04 PM

stikpusher

Model companies are known to err in their instruction sheet color call outs.

To the point where it's not even worth the trouble to check these out.

I find that the Holy Grail is an unaltered, not colorized, photo that's contemporary. But those are really hard to find.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 2:08 PM

GMorrison

 

 
stikpusher

Model companies are known to err in their instruction sheet color call outs.

 

 

To the point where it's not even worth the trouble to check these out.

 

I find that the Holy Grail is an unaltered, not colorized, photo that's contemporary. But those are really hard to find.

 

Exactly. Research online for photos and sites like the 109 Lair and IPMS Stockholm with all their troves of research. Detail and Scale books are another super source.

 

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