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Southeast Asia camo help
Posted by MUSTANG1 on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:54 AM

Is camouflage gray used in the SEA camo, or is it white? It looks white in all of the pic's i've seen. and all of the birds i've done in the past in the SEA camo i used white then i read that it's camouflage gray. So not sure what to use. Can anyone clear this up for me?   Thanks. Charley

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Posted by MUSTANG1 on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:56 AM

 

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 11:46 AM

Grey, not white.  Here's what I have used:  30219 Dark Tan, 34102 Medium Green, 34079 Dark Green, and 36222 Camouflage Grey.  The Model Master numbers are 1742, 1713, 1710, and 1733.

John

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Posted by rangerj on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 2:30 PM

Ditto the above. Those are the Federal Standard (FS) Color numbers and names used in the South East Asia camouflage paint scheme. The grey is a light grey but it is not white.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 2:38 PM

The official specs called for the colors listed above, with Gray FS# 36622 being the predominant undersurface color. But there were some exceptions. Aircraft tasked with night ops, especially interdiction along the Ho Chi Minh trail, such as the B-57, AC-130, and B-26, has their undersides in Black, FS# 37038. The Combat Lancer F111As had their undersides in Green FS# 34079. The F-111s that flew in the Linebacker campaigns had their undersides in Black.

But...some of the early 12th TFW F-4Cs that went to SEA in their original scheme of Gray FS# 36440 over White in 1965 kept their White undersides and did not have them repainted into Gray FS# 36622 when camo began to be applied to tactical aircraft in theater. I’m not sure if the same held true for A-1s or T-28s in that same time period. 

 

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Posted by MUSTANG1 on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 4:12 PM

Thanks guy's this really helps. Ok. would anyone know of any 1/48 F-105g wild weazel decals with the sharks teeth out there? I've tried all the decal websites i can think of and can't find any. 

 

                                      Thanks again.  Charley

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Posted by Caveman on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 4:25 PM

https://www.ultracast.ca/product-p/ms48-0324.htm

This site has a few different sheets with the teeth but be aware, they want collector prices for some of them.  At the very least it will give you some specific info to help you in your search.  The exchange rate should help you as well.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 5:56 PM

MUSTANG1

Thanks guy's this really helps. Ok. would anyone know of any 1/48 F-105g wild weazel decals with the sharks teeth out there? I've tried all the decal websites i can think of and can't find any. 

 

                                      Thanks again.  Charley

 

There were some older sheets by Microscale/Superscale and Aeromaster out there. But they are long out of production. Aside from the Ultracast site, I would suggest eBay as a place to look and keep your search criteria basic like “1/48 f 105” or “1/48 thunderchief”.

 

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Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 7:53 PM

MUSTANG1

Thanks guy's this really helps. Ok. would anyone know of any 1/48 F-105g wild weazel decals with the sharks teeth out there? I've tried all the decal websites i can think of and can't find any. 

 

                                      Thanks again.  Charley

 

ebays got em.

 

 

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Posted by Liegghio on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:41 PM

The FS36222 is a very light shade of grey, particularly in contrast to the relatively dark colors used on the upper surfaces. I was in the Air Force in SEA, and even in person the gray looked white to the eye unless you compared  it to something actually white. 

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Posted by MUSTANG1 on Wednesday, December 05, 2018 3:38 PM

Thanks guys for all the help.

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