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HK Models new 1/48 B-17G
Posted by tomwatkins45 on Saturday, September 21, 2019 7:11 AM

Detail and Scale's Facebook page has info and CAD drawings of a new 1/48 B-17G to be released in Oct. of this year. It shows the early tail gunner's position, enclosed waist positions, and full interior. It looks really good to me in the drawings. October and November are shaping up to be expensive months.

Tom

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Posted by Real G on Saturday, September 21, 2019 11:23 AM

WHAAAAAT?!!!!!  Really?  Finally a new tool 1/48 B-17?  As Rodney Dangerfield used to say “Oh ya lemme tell ya, it’s about time!”

Well if true, it’s about time to build the Monogram kit in my stash.  A salute to the fine old lady that served the modeling community since 1975.

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Posted by jeffpez on Saturday, September 21, 2019 11:34 AM
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Posted by Real G on Saturday, September 21, 2019 12:06 PM

Hoary clappu!

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Posted by JohnnyK on Saturday, September 21, 2019 12:35 PM

Oh oh!!! It looks to me that I need to order some more Bare Metal Foil Geeked

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Posted by Aggieman on Sunday, September 22, 2019 9:44 PM

Well dang ... I am going to need this in my stash. The only problem, in addition to the Monogram I built about 20 years ago that currently hangs in my workshop, is that I have an original issue Monogram, a Revell 1/48 Memphis Belle, and a reissue Monogram clear edition B-17. 

And I have to wonder what price tag this new B-17 is going to come with. The beauty of those old Monogram heavies was that you got a lot of detail for a small price. Given that this is a scaled-down version of their 32nd scale kit that goes for nearly $300, I don't hold out hope for this one picking at less than $200.

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Posted by snapdragonxxx on Monday, September 23, 2019 4:11 AM

I have known about this for some time but kept my mouth shut as requested by HK's head cheese.

I don't normally go into 1/48 with my normal range being 1/35, 1/32, 1/24, 1/16.

However, on this occasion, I will be delving into this as HK will be sending me one, I believe.

The Announcement has taken social media by storm over the weekend and is a suprise to all.

I cannot comment to what the street price will be. Here in the UK where Packetbond is the importer and Distributor, the price will be somewhere near unbelievable and extortion as they are known for excessive product pricing or more better know as "Grabbing ***********".

If you have seen my recent build of their Dambuster Lancaster you will know that they are a quality kit and build up to be fantastic looking Displays.

This one, for the 1/48 boys out there will be something nice under the tree at Christmas this year!

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, September 23, 2019 11:40 AM

Here's the FB post, too....

https://www.facebook.com/hkmmodels/posts/2349658201950458?__xts__[0]=68.ARCobeHPgoXWdMtuBfB5xka5yaCnABvTky78r9si-XgxU-etp6cWsL23SUn4ry0fpv3LOCHtsNG10qcXLgL_-lg2BDK2pJp2WyPpRhdeAZ9-WPf5aNxUM3-nSz-3cdQOeJ1yilOdK5nwjXt6foRaQlNwLyCr9DSenTzMtxjpeCuWBve9fSblV5kuJdA3HrStJ4qGUEOYih8zqE8OtH9LzqwKXnJpcao1kyxlKAGSf0LfLKzeZ-rJr8FeIFZnRI2BLoQIJguVxJMKoajyOI7PAWTyIVFVGPgAZnv0f76ocsKWJVlJRc4asZFSw0Dlymrh7XcLtUdpdoEsgUQ-QDHGQTDUPxdg&__tn__=-R

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, September 23, 2019 11:43 AM

Aggieman

Well dang ... I am going to need this in my stash. The only problem, in addition to the Monogram I built about 20 years ago that currently hangs in my workshop, is that I have an original issue Monogram, a Revell 1/48 Memphis Belle, and a reissue Monogram clear edition B-17. 

And I have to wonder what price tag this new B-17 is going to come with. The beauty of those old Monogram heavies was that you got a lot of detail for a small price. Given that this is a scaled-down version of their 32nd scale kit that goes for nearly $300, I don't hold out hope for this one picking at less than $200.

 
That's why I'm not as excited about this kit, as I am about the Tamiya P-38.  I've pre-ordered a Tamiya P-38.  I'm not going to order or buy the HK B-17, not right away.  I can wait.
 
And neither of those kits will make me get rid of the Monogram kits I have.  I know many aircraft modelers have asked for a new 1/48 B-17 for a long time, but I'm happy with the Monogram kit.
 
I'd be more excited if someone came out with a 1/48 C-46 or B-32 in injection-molded styrene.  Or a PBM.  Something not previously kitted in that scale.

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Posted by Aggieman on Monday, September 23, 2019 6:54 PM

the Baron

 

 
Aggieman

Well dang ... I am going to need this in my stash. The only problem, in addition to the Monogram I built about 20 years ago that currently hangs in my workshop, is that I have an original issue Monogram, a Revell 1/48 Memphis Belle, and a reissue Monogram clear edition B-17. 

And I have to wonder what price tag this new B-17 is going to come with. The beauty of those old Monogram heavies was that you got a lot of detail for a small price. Given that this is a scaled-down version of their 32nd scale kit that goes for nearly $300, I don't hold out hope for this one picking at less than $200.

 

 

 
That's why I'm not as excited about this kit, as I am about the Tamiya P-38.  I've pre-ordered a Tamiya P-38.  I'm not going to order or buy the HK B-17, not right away.  I can wait.
 
And neither of those kits will make me get rid of the Monogram kits I have.  I know many aircraft modelers have asked for a new 1/48 B-17 for a long time, but I'm happy with the Monogram kit.
 
I'd be more excited if someone came out with a 1/48 C-46 or B-32 in injection-molded styrene.  Or a PBM.  Something not previously kitted in that scale.
 

Baron, I would probably run over a bunch of nails to get any or all of those. The Monogram B-17 remains a great kit despite its lack of a bomb bay (which is included with the visible kit). Still, I will certainly want to get this new release provided the price is not in the stratosphere.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:26 PM

Does it look good? Oh yes.  It it will likely cost an arm, leg, and perhaps a reproductive organ as well. Since there is already the Monogram G available, it’s not a “must have” for me. Now if HK comes out with an E or mid to late F, I might have save up my cans and bottles for some extra cash...

 

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Posted by B-17 Guy on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 8:42 AM

MSRP USD $118

http://merit-intl.com/meritnew/index.php?dest=products&sku=HKM-01F001

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:06 AM

I don't understand why a model company includes so much interior detail when the majority of it will not be seen after the model is assembled. Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way. 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:08 PM

JohnnyK

I don't understand why a model company includes so much interior detail when the majority of it will not be seen after the model is assembled. Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way. 

 

Well they do have a kit to beat, the old Monogram B-17G that had a pretty comprehensive interior. 

But I do hope that they do not go for a recessed panel lines and rivets exterior. That would be inaccurate. Overlapping panels and raised rivets are the way to go. That’s how the real Fort is made.

 

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 3:27 PM

JohnnyK

I don't understand why a model company includes so much interior detail when the majority of it will not be seen after the model is assembled. Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way. 

You've touched on an old, old question for us modelers.

My best friend and I both got the Monogram B-17 for Christmas one year.  He finished his in a couple of days, while I was still working on the interior.

When I asked him if he added the interior details, he said no, because you can't see them.

When he asked me why I was adding them, I said, "Because I know they're there."

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Posted by cbaltrin on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:13 PM

the Baron

 

 
JohnnyK

I don't understand why a model company includes so much interior detail when the majority of it will not be seen after the model is assembled. Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way. 

 

 

You've touched on an old, old question for us modelers.

My best friend and I both got the Monogram B-17 for Christmas one year.  He finished his in a couple of days, while I was still working on the interior.

When I asked him if he added the interior details, he said no, because you can't see them.

When he asked me why I was adding them, I said, "Because I know they're there."

 

On the Monogram B-17, yo can totally see the interior... anyway even if you couldn't see it I would still paint it because I enjoy doing it.. 

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Posted by B-17 Guy on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:34 PM

stikpusher

 

 
 
 

 

 

 

But I do hope that they do not go for a recessed panel lines and rivets exterior. That would be inaccurate. Overlapping panels and raised rivets are the way to go. That’s how the real Fort is made.

 

Nope, recessed lines  and rivets.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:46 PM

 

cbaltrin 

On the Monogram B-17, yo can totally see the interior... anyway even if you couldn't see it I would still paint it because I enjoy doing it.. 

 

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I agree with you 100%. Making models is all about personal enjoyment. People aske me why I spend so many hours finishing my models with Bare Metal Foil. My answer is the same as yours, "Because I enjoy doing it".

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:00 AM
Having built several Monogram ones, I welcome this. I do hope an F with all 8000 different nose options is in the works too.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:30 AM

B-17 Guy

 

 
stikpusher

 

 
 
 

 

 

 

But I do hope that they do not go for a recessed panel lines and rivets exterior. That would be inaccurate. Overlapping panels and raised rivets are the way to go. That’s how the real Fort is made.

 

 

 

Nope, recessed lines  and rivets.

 

Fad wins over accuracy... That’s too bad...

 

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, September 26, 2019 7:45 AM

It says 'early model' and the waist guns look non-staggered? 

Still the price is a little steep but not unexpected. Might have to pick one up in a few years. I really, really, really don't need to add ANYTHING to the stash right now... 

 

PS: Listed today on Hobbylink Japan for $97.18 US at the current exchange rate. Of course the box may be large enough to kick it up into an expensive S&H bracket.  

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Posted by Keyda81 on Thursday, September 26, 2019 10:25 AM

lawdog114
Having built several Monogram ones, I welcome this. I do hope an F with all 8000 different nose options is in the works too.
 

8000 different nose options is right, lol.  I'm going to be modifying, or at least attempting to modify the Revell F model into "Movie Memphis Belle".  She has the smaller windows in the nose, which I think are E model style. 

 

I still have yet to build a B-17, I know what is wrong with me.  I promise I'll get to it this winter!  It does look nice.  Maybe down the road I'll pick one up.  Who knows. 

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Posted by Real G on Thursday, September 26, 2019 11:26 AM

And the E/F versions will be coming down the line, as well as a Lancaster!  Sorry my linkie-fu is weak this morning, but it is true.  We need new B-26 Marauders now...

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, September 26, 2019 11:35 AM

Real G

And the E/F versions will be coming down the line, as well as a Lancaster!  Sorry my linkie-fu is weak this morning, but it is true.  We need new B-26 Marauders now...

 

Oh yeah! I'd love to see a new B-26! 

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, September 26, 2019 11:41 AM

cbaltrin

On the Monogram B-17, yo can totally see the interior... anyway even if you couldn't see it I would still paint it because I enjoy doing it.. 

JohnnyK

I agree with you 100%. Making models is all about personal enjoyment. People aske me why I spend so many hours finishing my models with Bare Metal Foil. My answer is the same as yours, "Because I enjoy doing it".

Well, yeah, that's a flavor of "I know it's there."

Those internal details helped me learn more about the aircraft, too.  And that goes for the other types of models I built.  Internal detail, not necessarily visible to the outside, and, good instructions.  Remember instructions that included the names of the parts, not just a number and maybe a sprue ID?  I never worked on engines, but building car models was like reading a manual in some cases.  "Oh, so that's a distributor cap", and so on.

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Posted by Real G on Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:25 PM

Well, I'm keeping my $25 Monogram kit, not to be stubborn or being one to ignore progress, but because the B-17 is one of those subjects that I like, but not LIKE.  Plus mine is already paid for and sitting in my house!  And I have the neat Shep Paine diorama sheet.  Whenever I thumb throught it, it's like going back in time to the 1970s.  But without disco or hippies.

But for those eager to get the new HKM B-17, rock on Brothers and Sisters of the Sprue!

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, September 27, 2019 11:25 AM

Real G

Well, I'm keeping my $25 Monogram kit, not to be stubborn or being one to ignore progress, but because the B-17 is one of those subjects that I like, but not LIKE.  Plus mine is already paid for and sitting in my house!  And I have the neat Shep Paine diorama sheet.  Whenever I thumb throught it, it's like going back in time to the 1970s.  But without disco or hippies.

But for those eager to get the new HKM B-17, rock on Brothers and Sisters of the Sprue!

Amen!

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 27, 2019 4:19 PM

My Monogram G was scrapped a few years back. But it graciously donated its’ innards for use with the Revell F in my stash. I have plans for another project like my Marauder... At least the F has open waist windows, radio compartment window, etc. to show off some of the interior...

 

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Posted by TheMongoose on Friday, September 27, 2019 7:04 PM

B-17 Guy

 

 
stikpusher

 

 
 
 

 

 

 

But I do hope that they do not go for a recessed panel lines and rivets exterior. That would be inaccurate. Overlapping panels and raised rivets are the way to go. That’s how the real Fort is made.

 

 

 

Nope, recessed lines  and rivets.

 

 

Archer rivets here I come! I can't image putting down those lines of rivets tho. Maybe it will be a cold winter and I can't get out of the house or go to work...you can only hope Yeah

In the pattern: Revell's B-2 Stealth Bomber. My daughter was excited about this one. It was her favorite at the USAF Museum.

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