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1/72 F4F-3 Yellow-wing Wildcat [pics updated]

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1/72 F4F-3 Yellow-wing Wildcat [pics updated]
Posted by viper_mp on Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:24 PM

Hey guys, thanks for stopping by.  this is the 1/72 Hobby Boss F4F-3 early Wildcat.  And let me tell you, thats not at ALL what it is. Being somewhat of a Wildcat expert [its my favorite plane.  Lets just say I've studied it in depth], I was very disappointed with the HB kit.  First off, they do NOT give you decals for the white/black bands on the fuselage and wings.  I had to mask and airbrish them.  Not fun. Second, the kit itself is NOT an early Wildcat, but a standard -4 late 'Cat.  So to correct it, I had to fill the panel lines for the wing fold joint.  Removed the buldge on the wing for the wing fold mechanism.  And fill the outter maching gun opening and ejection chutes, as well as the ammo door lines.  [-3's only had 4 guns]. The decals you do get, are not the best.  After applying them and using microsol, they had a wierd finish to them that took two coats of Future to make smooth.  The plane is painted in alclad II Polished Aluminum.  The Yellow is a home-brew of Tamiya flat yellow mixed with Polly Scale D&RGW Yellow.  The green is Tamiya Dark Green mixed with a bit of clear green.  The grey is Tamiya Sky Grey.  The bottoms of the ailerons were treated to MM magnesium and aluminum.  The prop is Floquil Bright Silver[blades], MM magnesium [cuffs], MM Aluminum [hub] and tamiya colors for the bands [yes, they are hand painted]. Overall I am very pleased with the final outcome.  And it fills a nice spot in my wildcat collection.  I also put in a pic of my 72 'Cats.  The F4F-4 is also a HB kit.  The FM-2 is from MPM.

Enjoy!!!

Rob Folden

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:34 PM

Very nice work viper_mp, and thank you for sharing. I just finished a blue F4F, now you have me thinking of doing a yellow wing.

 

So many to build ...so little time

Randy

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Posted by Butz on Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:55 PM

Hey Rob,

 Your -3 came out very well..!! See what happens with a lil TLC and a lil elbow grease. It's funny how a mfg produces a kit yet it's not true to it's form?

 I think they do this so we have to work a lil extra hard and they call this a hobby Lol.. Anyways, you should be proud of her and she looks rather nice in the early war scheme. Ah yes off the Ranger too.. Nice!!

Thanks for sharing and giving us a run down to what you did

Flaps up,

Mike

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Posted by viper_mp on Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:59 PM

thanks guys.  Butz, having built the HB -4 as well, I can tell you it was pure marketing.  they are the same kit.  Just a change in decals and paint so they can market the kit twice. 

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, the piece that goes between the gear doors on the fuselage....doesnt exist.  I had to scratch build it.

Rob Folden

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:09 AM

Your extra effort really paid off Rob.  Looks great.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:43 AM
I love those early 'Cats, and yours is a stunning example.  Very well done, and thanks for sharing your work.  Very nice stuff! Approve [^]

Frank 

 

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Posted by luftwaffle on Sunday, February 15, 2009 10:00 AM

That certainly is a great build of a pretty airplane.

Hobbyboss is real hit or miss, I bought their Fw 190A-6, it's an A-8 with decals for an A-6.  I'll never build it but at least the decals are nice...

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Posted by Mike F6F on Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:25 PM
Nice work correcting the "4" to the earlier bird, in 1/72 to boot.

Very nice finish. Thanks for the look.

Mike

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Posted by Luftwoller on Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:36 PM

Stunning Rob. Yellow can be a swine to spray and youve nailed it, marry that to a flawless NMF, this ones a show winner for sure.

...Guy

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Posted by el_jere on Monday, February 16, 2009 4:02 PM

Hey! colourful bird you got there!!!! I love the scheme and the paint job is flawless, congratulations!!!

Lucky you to notice all the inacuracies and correct all that was wrong, your model turn out great!

best regards, and again: congratulations!

 

Jeremias

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Posted by ian lanc on Monday, February 16, 2009 5:27 PM

Ditto with what the other guys have said Bow [bow] Bow [bow] Bow [bow] Bow [bow]

ian.

just doing one more model ! thats all.
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Posted by trexx on Monday, February 16, 2009 5:53 PM

Terrific!~

The Hi-Vis is HIGHLY cool!

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Posted by firesmacker on Monday, February 16, 2009 6:00 PM
VERY NICE! Good jobThumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by ps1scw on Monday, February 16, 2009 6:26 PM
She looks SWEET, I love yellow wing paint schemes
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Posted by viper_mp on Monday, February 16, 2009 6:52 PM
Thanks guys!  I have the HB yellow wig in 1/48th as well.  Havent started it, but I am hoping its actually a -3 and not a -4 like this one.  otherwise I may not build it as a yellow wing.

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:23 AM

Rob excellent work.  I built the Hasegawa 72nd -3 at the end of last year.  It has the exact same issues.  In the instructions they tell you how to fill in the appropriate panel lines and fill the outboard gun ports.

 

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Posted by viper_mp on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:21 AM
Thanks tempest.  Your's looks great.  and got me wondering about the grey cowling. A quick [read as extensive] look through the internet and all o my wildcat references...and sure enough.  More HB inaccuracies.  I have now removed the cowling for repainting.  It should be silver, with a white leading edge and a thin black trim line.  Also, I found the pitot tube was for the -4.  So it was removed, sanded, repainted, and a new straight PT is being added to the leading edge of the wing.  I also found out that the -3 gun barrels stuck out from the front of the wing.  So I need to add those.  So....this goes back to WIP status.  I know I dont HAVE to do all that work, but I have a buddy in the local club that is Frm Navy, builds ONLY Navy, and like me, is a huge Grumman Iron works fan.  So HE will know it.  I will know it.  And I wont be happy till its done. lol

Rob Folden

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:48 PM
Don't you just hate it when that happens

 

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Posted by garys on Friday, February 20, 2009 9:40 PM

Hey Viper,

Nice build. If your a 'cat fan may I suggest the book "The First Team". I think you will like it.

 

Gary

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Posted by viper_mp on Friday, February 20, 2009 11:40 PM

OK.  so after  lot of work, it is now an F4F-3 from the USS Ranger.  The pitot tube has ben removed and remlaced with the correct style.  The gun tubes now extend from the leading edge of the wing. The cowling flaps were re-worked to the correct style [-3's had one per side, not 3]. And the entire nose was repainted to the correct markings.  So, finally, my $10 HB "easy kit" is done.  And it was anything but "easy".

Rob Folden

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Posted by JWalker on Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:01 PM
Funny how the builders seem to be doing more homework than the manufacturers. The end result is a work of art. Great build!!! And a great pride of Wldcats!!!
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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:46 PM

Again Viper a beautiful Wildcat. Over time I will build all the "Cats" however I still have a lot to learn first.

I have to tell you one thing I have learned in this hobby, " If it wus easy it wusn't no phun"

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by viper_mp on Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:03 PM

Thanks guys.  Vetteman- Currently I have the -3, -4, FM-1, and FM-2 in 1/72 scale.  With a Martlet and a -4N still to go.  In 1/48th, I have 4 -4's built, with the FM-1, FM-2, -3, and -4N still to go.  I am a Wildcat NUT!!!  I also have Hellcats, a Tigercat, a Cougar, a Panther.

I still need to do the F4F-1 and -2 prototypes & the F4F-3S Wildcatfish.

Rob Folden

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Posted by Madoc on Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:50 PM

Rob & all,

About that F4F-3S Wildcatfish...

I recently picked up the AMC kitting of that beast.  Just looking it over I'd have to say the best thing about it is the struts for attaching the floats followed by the floats themselves.  Everything else left me muchly unimpressed.

I was hoping therefore to find a good 72nd scale F4F-3 kit that I could simply swap out for the lump that AMC offers.  Hobby Boss looked good for that until reading your review.

Now the search for a good -3 continues!

Madoc

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Posted by model maniac 96 on Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:57 PM
Sweet!

Jim
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Posted by rlawson on Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:25 PM

Hey Rob, please fill me in. I've never heard of the F4F-4N ??? Sounds like a night fighter version?  I know about the photo versions -3P, -7 and FM-2P, but this is a new one to me.  BTW, there's an FM-2P on the airshow circuit. It shows up in Houston now and then.

TIA

Dick

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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:37 PM

Rob,

First off, let me say very nice build.  I have that kit also and am doing as one of the planes from VMF-211 that was left behind at Pearl for last year's Pearl Harbor build.  Once you've filled in the appropriate lines you're left with a F4F-3A.  I have a question, then a nit to pick.  The question is what did you use to simulate the gun barrels?  I bought some minimecca tubing but it turned out too big.  Now the nit, in every pic I've seen only the inboard guns protruded from the wing, even the restored -3 and -3A at the NAVAIR museum in Pensacola have the guns this way.  If you've got a pic of this a/c, or of other -3's, with the barrel of the outboard guns protruding, just beat me over the head with it and I'll stand corrected (or lie on the ground black and blue).

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:49 PM
 Madoc wrote:

Rob & all,

About that F4F-3S Wildcatfish...

I recently picked up the AMC kitting of that beast.  Just looking it over I'd have to say the best thing about it is the struts for attaching the floats followed by the floats themselves.  Everything else left me muchly unimpressed.

I was hoping therefore to find a good 72nd scale F4F-3 kit that I could simply swap out for the lump that AMC offers.  Hobby Boss looked good for that until reading your review.

Now the search for a good -3 continues!

Madoc

Madoc,

It takes just a little bit of effort to turn it back into a -3.  Just a little putty and some rescribing and you're done.  As I said in my previous post, after that you're left with a -3A as the cowling is for a -4.  If you must have the cowling with the twin scoops, there is resin replacement cowl for the Hasegawa kit, the maker escapes me.  For ten bucks, it's more of a deal than the Academy kit, plus it captures the lines of the Wildcat more than the Academy kit.  Now if Tamiya were to downsize their Cat to 1/72, well a guy can dream can't he?

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Posted by Greenshirt on Sunday, March 1, 2009 7:46 AM
 lewbud wrote:
 Madoc wrote:

Rob & all,

About that F4F-3S Wildcatfish...

I recently picked up the AMC kitting of that beast.  Just looking it over I'd have to say the best thing about it is the struts for attaching the floats followed by the floats themselves.  Everything else left me muchly unimpressed.

I was hoping therefore to find a good 72nd scale F4F-3 kit that I could simply swap out for the lump that AMC offers.  Hobby Boss looked good for that until reading your review.

Now the search for a good -3 continues!

Madoc

Madoc,

It takes just a little bit of effort to turn it back into a -3.  Just a little putty and some rescribing and you're done.  As I said in my previous post, after that you're left with a -3A as the cowling is for a -4.  If you must have the cowling with the twin scoops, there is resin replacement cowl for the Hasegawa kit, the maker escapes me.  For ten bucks, it's more of a deal than the Academy kit, plus it captures the lines of the Wildcat more than the Academy kit.  Now if Tamiya were to downsize their Cat to 1/72, well a guy can dream can't he?

All true.  I backdated the 72nd Hasegawa Wildcat to the F4F-3A/Martlet III by replacing the wing with the Quickboost resin set.  Upon studying the panel lines it's obvious the non-folding wing is very different than the folding wing.  Obviously the wing-fold line, but also the spar was moved aft in the outer wing panel a few inches, so without redesigning the fuselage spar/landing gear area Grumman redesigned the spar on the inner wing panel such that it was angled from the fuselage to the point where it meets the outer wing.  You can see it very obviously on most kits and drawings of the folding wing, and when you see the non-folding wing it's apparent.  I don't have scans or a scanner as I'd show the difference, but it's why the -3 gun barrels protrude from the leading edge.

My recommendation for a very accurate (and expensive) F4F-3S in 72nd would be:

Hasegawa F4F as base kit;

Quickboost -3 corrected wing;

Quickboost -3 cowling;

AMC floats/struts.

Alternative is lots of filling and scribing...but that's why we do this, right?

OBTW, did I mention your build is exceptional.  I'm looking forward to my next Wildcat!

GS

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  • 7 Spitfires & Seafires
  • Wellington III
  • N-9H Navy Jenny

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Posted by viper_mp on Sunday, March 1, 2009 11:39 AM

Thanks guys.  Sorry I havent gotten back sooner, life's been a little crazy. 

Madoc- Although it takxe some work, the HB kit is very well done as far as accurate lines.  I have also built the Wildcat from Academy, which IMHO, has too large of a fuselage.  It also IIRC requires you to scratch build part of the interior.  But it does have more of an interior than the HB kit.  So I would say either would work.  

rlawson- yes, the -4N is a night fighter version.  But it, just like the -3S, was more of a prototype plane.  I dont think it ever went into full production. I may be wrong, but I think there is a resin conversion [just the night radar] for the 1/48 'Cats. 

lewdbud- Remember when flling in the lines, also remove the wingfold blister on the top of the wing.  And fill in the outter gun port and the ejection chutes and lines.  As for the barrels, for 1/48th I usually go with 1/16 x .014 brass tube from the LHS. For 1/72nd, I use 1/32 x .006 brass tube.  Its a little thicker walled than needle tubing.  IMHO it has more of a barrel look.  As for the protrusion...this pic should help. Its taken from one of the F4F-3's that was recovered from Lake Michigan. Mine may be a little over-protruded, but it does stick out a bit.

Rob Folden

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