Monogram Mafia

kustommodeler1

I've got 25 finished Monogram kits that survive out of the at least 100 or more I've built over the last 30 years, do I need to wait on my badge before displaying it? 

You sayin' you want the badge without joining the group-build or do you want to join up and display it before finishing and being officially "made"?  If it's the latter, then ok...

  It'd be very... unfortunate... should you fail to finish...    Someday, and that day may never come... I will call upon you to do a service for me.... But until that day, consider this a gift ....  

I'm gonna say "No" to the Encore F-106... There's too much in it that ain't Monogram, IMHO..  59 resin parts and two frets of P/E parts runs contrary to the "Spirit of the Build"... 

Hans von Hammer

You sayin' you want the badge without joining the group-build or do you want to join up and display it before finishing and being officially "made"?  If it's the latter, then ok...

Oh no ABSOLUTELY I am joining this build!! The Corvette for sure, and either the Tomcat or the C-Eagle so that is 2. I was just asking because I have the afore mentioned 100 or so Monogram kits built in the last few decades like you have, cars ships and aircraft. Several I have shown here, so you might say, in your words, I am already made as well.

Thanks for letting me display it, you will NOT be let down!!

Do Pro Modeler kits count has Monogram?

kustommodeler1

Hans von Hammer:

You sayin' you want the badge without joining the group-build or do you want to join up and display it before finishing and being officially "made"?  If it's the latter, then ok...

 

Oh no ABSOLUTELY I am joining this build!! The Corvette for sure, and either the Tomcat or the C-Eagle so that is 2. I was just asking because I have the afore mentioned 100 or so Monogram kits built in the last few decades like you have, cars ships and aircraft. Several I have shown here, so you might say, in your words, I am already made as well.

 

Thanks for letting me display it, you will NOT be let down!!

Hans von Hammer

I'm gonna say "No" to the Encore F-106... There's too much in it that ain't Monogram, IMHO..  59 resin parts and two frets of P/E parts runs contrary to the "Spirit of the Build"... 

Fair enough, and thanks!

Glenn

I know I've built at least three B-17s with many where in the stash.

The problem I have is figuring out if'n they where orginally Monogram, casue I have all the reboxed ones after Revell bought 'em out.  Except for the old C-47

Count me in.  Going to do the Monogram Classics OS2U-3 Kingfisher And Monogram Classics Ju 87G-1 Tank Buster .  Hans, could I talk you out of a couple of those F-80 jocks?

chris

Count me in for a 1/48 Monogram Spitfire Mk. II, and a 1/48 Monogram ME109G.  Both OOB.  They'll make a nice change from the Hasegawa F4 FGR.2.  I kind of wish it didn't start so late.  Then I could try for a threefer with the Revell F4 I will be doing for the F4 build.  Then again, I will be doing the Hasegawa first so I might be able to do the Revell after 3/31.

Hans von Hammer

Due to the name coined by our own DoogsATX,  I'm checking on a the interest level of a Monogram Group Build. Build any two (2) Classic Monogram kit s(or Revell re-releases of them), any subject, any era, any scale, and get "made"... Crossovers, WIPs OK as long as they aren't over 50% compete...  I say two because, face it... Start date, any time from right now to 31 March, completion date, six months from your start time.. Start-time cut off is 31 March... You wanna piece of the action, you gotta be committed to "This Thing of Ours"...  If you can't swing two Monogram kits in six months, "den fuggedaboudit"... You ain't what we're lookin' for... Ya gotta be an "earner" if ya wanna get "made"... 

Successful completion means you're "made" in the Monogram Mafia..

 I'm takin' my badge now,  though... I figure I've got enough Monogram kits under my belt to have earned it already.. Any youse gotta problem wit' dat?

 

 

 

 

Sign me up. Either a P-38 or a P-61 or a P-51 or a Devastator or a B-52 or a A-26 or a B-24 or a F-100 or a B-58 or a AC-47 or a T-6 or a ...... well you get the idea.

B17Pilot

Do Pro Modeler kits count has Monogram?

As far as I know most do, but there are some exceptions...  Like the 1/32 scale ProModeler (ex Hasegawa) Bf 109G..  The ProModeler kits that count are the ones that were orginally released as a Monogram kit..

Count me in for a 1/48 Monogram Spitfire Mk. II, and a 1/48 Monogram ME109G. 

As for a start date, you can start today.. You have to be on board prior  to 31 March..

But about your choices.. Kinda got some bad news..  Those two kits weren't originally Monogram kits and...  Revell first released them in 78..   The 1960s and early 70s issues of the Mk IX Spitfire and  Me 109E (both featuring the retractable landing gear and no cockpit) were the only Monogram variants of those types...

Here's the Monogram Me 109E:

 I don't have a parts breakdown of the Spitfire kit photo'd yet, but the parts-count is about the same as the '109 (and the pilot figure is identical)..  The box art is the original release, but I think there was a "white box" re-issue in the 70s..

While there IS a  Bf 109G-10 kit that DOES have the Monogram label on the box, it originally started out as a Revell kit in about '78, when Revell and Monogram were competetors...  Since it wasn't initially a Monogram-mold kit, it's a "re-box", rather than "re-issue", and thus misses the afore-mentioned "Spirit of the Build"..

The current Revell Catalog showing a Spitfire Mk IX isn't the original Monogram Spitfire Mk IX kit either. Although I have no idea who first put it out, it too is NOT an original "Monogram-molded" kit..

Some puke needs to build the RB-36.

If they'd have put that bird out in 1/48th, I'd have done it...

kg4kpg

Count me in.  Not sure what two yet, post them tomorrow.  Hans, could I talk you out of a couple of those F-80 jocks?

chris

Probably,  If resin castings are ok... PM me..

Hans-I have a question about a specific kit being eligible-does the new release of the P-51 B/C qualify?

http://www.greatmodels.com/~smartcart/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=RMX5256

Thanks

Well these are the kits I have.

One is copyright 1991 and the other 1994, not that that means when they were first molded, but those are the only two dates I can find on the boxes.

Hans von Hammer

 

Count me in for a 1/48 Monogram Spitfire Mk. II, and a 1/48 Monogram ME109G. 

 

As for a start date, you can start today.. You have to be on board prior  to 31 March..

But about your choices.. Kinda got some bad news..  Those two kits weren't originally Monogram kits and...  Revell first released them in 78..   The 1960s and early 70s issues of the Mk IX Spitfire and  Me 109E (both featuring the retractable landing gear and no cockpit) were the only Monogram variants of those types...

Here's the Monogram Me 109E:

 I don't have a parts breakdown of the Spitfire kit photo'd yet, but the parts-count is about the same as the '109 (and the pilot figure is identical)..  The box art is the original release, but I think there was a "white box" re-issue in the 70s..

While there IS a  Bf 109G-10 kit that DOES have the Monogram label on the box, it originally started out as a Revell kit in about '78, when Revell and Monogram were competetors...  Since it wasn't initially a Monogram-mold kit, it's a "re-box", rather than "re-issue", and thus misses the afore-mentioned "Spirit of the Build"..

The current Revell Catalog showing a Spitfire Mk IX isn't the original Monogram Spitfire Mk IX kit either. Although I have no idea who first put it out, it too is NOT an original "Monogram-molded" kit..

Ahhhh, there is actually a GB on the go, Hans, Ignore my question in the "Show your Revell/Monogram builds" thread. Hmmmm, I'd have to do some digging to see if I actually have an Mono-grammy goodness. I think I may be out of luck there though. I know I have an older P47, but I think it may be a Testors kit.

I have a Peacemaker but it's so huge, I would have no where big enough to build it right now.  Thats why all of my really big bombers (B29,B17,B36,B47, B58 and B52) aren't done yet. lol

Rich

bondoman

Some puke needs to build the RB-36.

I have their old Zero kit with the retractable landing gear. Its been awhile since i got into a group build, I'll take a stab at it.

I remember paying only $0.69 for this kit when it originally came out.

Mike T.

Well, I am ready when anyone else is. I'm in with the afore mentioned Monogram F-15C Eagle 1/48 scale, and 1/24 scale Monogram Corvette ZR-1.

Soon as I see the GB in the GB forum I will get started.......

Please ignore the last line of the above post I didn't see the GB in the GB....

Ok guys.. Time to post your kit selections (if you've decided, that is) in the GB hooch, if you haven't already done so... I'm afraid I'll miss someone if I gotta go back & forth..

Any questions as to your selction being eligible, you can post it here, and there, too...   

I'll update the roster twice a day, at 0600 and 1800 CST/Sierra (GMT/Zulu -6)...

bobbaily

Hans-I have a question about a specific kit being eligible-does the new release of the P-51 B/C qualify?

http://www.greatmodels.com/~smartcart/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=RMX5256

 

Thanks

Sorry, but nope, Bob.. It's not a re-pop of Jim Howard's P-51B, "Ding-Hao!"... It's either a re-box of another manufacturer, or a totally-new  Pony...  The only part that I can even suspect as being from the 1960's Mustang mold is the Malcom hood, lol.. Not even the pilot figure is the same as the old one..

However, if you DO want a Mustang, the P-51D (decaled as either LTC John Landers' "Big Beautiful Doll" or as a Pony from the 343rd FS/55th FG) kit is ex-Monogram, formerly decaled in the 1970s release as "Detroit Miss"...

I happen to have lucked out recently.

A gentleman who died in the past year or so had a gigantic collection of kits he had bought over the years (1000 or so) , and some of these kits were bought up by a gent I know who is selling them off.

Of the kits I got so far are: Promodeller Ju-88A-4 bomber, Promodeller Do 217E-5 bomber, 2 of the SB2C-4 Helldiver, a Wildcat, Fw190, Kingfisher and an F100 Super Sabre. I am waiting for some more to appear over the next several weeks. Yes these are all the old 1/48 scale monogram kits with moving parts and rivets galore.  Some are even still wraped in the plastic. I feel like I'm in seventh heaven.

Oh by the way did I say that I paid less than $100 Can for them so far.  Yes I am walking on air!

Guys!

Take a look at the "Monogram Mafia" thread in the Group Build Hooch, especially page three and four.. There's been some changes and a couple shake-ups regarding the ProMdelr kits and we need to get our collective "poop in a grop" for this..

Regarding the ProModer kits, there aren't many that are going to make the cut as being "true" Monogram kits, also, none of the Monogram WW1 birds are in, and neither are a few Monogram jets, like the A-4 and A-7 kits...

Some variants of certain aircraft are still ok, but some aren't...  Like the Fw 109.. The "A" model is in, the "Dora" isn't.. Bf 109G, no.  Me 109E, yes..

Anyway, look into the hooch and let's get things atraightened out before anyone buys something they can't use (for this build, anyway).....

Hans von Hammer

Did Monogram do any WW1 kits or are all of the Revell of Germany kits available now originally Revell kits?

Monogram bought the molds and released three of the old Aurora WW1 kits in the 70s; The Sopwith Camel, Fokker D VII, and SE5A, which they felt were the most accurate of the Aurora kits,.. Revell-Germany has re-released the ex-Aurora Fokker Dr 1, but it was never released in a Monogram box, AFAIK, so the first three are the only Monogram WW1 kits that I know about...

A little off-topic, but Hans, are you SURE about the DR-1? Do you know approximately when they released the ex-Aurora DR-1? The most recent RG 1/48 release is the Eduard plastic. Thanks.

LOL... Heh,  No, I ain't sure about the Dr 1 anymore... Except that it's a rebox from another manufacturer, and never was a "Monogram-designed" kit...  Since I typed that stuff up there, further research on Stikpusher and mine's part  has determined that none of the "Monogram" WW1 aircraft are eligible for this Group Build, regardless of what the box says.. 

Actually, none of the Revell-Germany kits are allowed, for that matter... They were once part of Revell California  and never made any ex-Monogram kits that I can find...    Neither are the A-4 series, A-7A/E, F-15C/E, F-111, F-84G (the F model is though), A-26C or ProModeler A-26B/C (Monogram's A-26B is though), and a bunch of others... 

It's gotten a bit confusing, since some kits were ok'd, but turns out that they aren't, after more in-depth research..

Is it too late to get in on this?

I would have already been 'made' if you did this thread two months ago, so let me post some 'bones':

Me 262 hidden in a revell box:

Zero with the bonifides

P40B two ways

I restored this ancient Hurricane

in the stash i have two genuine Monogram kits, teh TBF and aFW 190 in the 1970s boxes.

Where in the world do you find a Monogram kit anymore?  I'd be game for this if I could.