1/48 vs 1/32 scales.

You know, yet another example of a cool looking 1/32 kit, Hasegawa Raiden (it is advertised on the FSM site) just shows there are more and more 1/32's showing up.  makes me wish my 1/48 stash wasn't so big but still not near the selection.

Problem for me with 1/32 is cost and space, yet I have at least ten of them.

1/48 are my favorite scale, you can get some nice details that can be seen and display a bunch of them without killing all your space.

Hans von Hammer

Borg R3-MC0:

Hans von Hammer:

Yeah.. But where's my 1/48 Stoof? (Grumman S2F Tracker for you folks in Rio Linda, CA.  S-Two-F=Stoof)

 

 

Kinetic makes 1/48 S-2, but I think it is not in the price range that you like your models to be:

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/kin/kit_kin_48024.shtml

 

LOL.. I saw that kit reviewed in the current issue of FSM not ten minutes after I wrote that post... I thought , GREAT!.. Then I read the review...

The price of 89.95 is about four times what I'd ever pay for a twin-engine aircraft kit in 1/48... It's no bigger than a Monogram B-25 (which comes in at under 20.00 bucks around here).  So, there still isn't a 1/48 Stoof available as far as I'm concerned...

From the FSM review: "Low parts-count, little detail in cockpit, no side consoles, basic seats, IP with raised squares devoid of detail, no detail in overhead console, no detail in aft compartment, bomb bay, no detail on inside of search-light, vague, incomplete instructions", and the review STILL said it was a good kit for intermediate modelers!  You kiddin' me?

For 89.95, it soinds like a pretty poor kit to me, but then, I don't think ANY kit reviewed by FSM reviewers EVER gets a "thumbs down"...

I'd say, 18.00 TOPS for that kit... The plus side is that I'd get to scratchbuild the missing stuff, but for that price, I shouldn't HAVE to...  Sounds as if they want to market an after-market detail set for another 45.00-50.00 for the unwary builder.. Betcher REAL money someone is already working on it, lol..

I would tend to agree. WAAYYY too much money for a kit that has so-so detail. You're not gonna see very much detail through that small bit of cockpit glass anyway.

I ain't been bannedyet for using it, so you're probably safe, R-man...

Hans von Hammer

Devil Dawg:

Hans von Hammer:

Yeah.. But where's my 1/48 Stoof? (Grumman S2F Tracker for you folks in Rio Linda, CA.  S-Two-F=Stoof)

 

 

Sounds like someone listens to one of my favorite conservative talk radio personalities........

 

You're the first person here to ever catch that reference, Dawg...

Nah, I knew it all along but figured I'd be banned around here admitting it.

One of these companies' 1/72 Lancs might not "suck"... I recomend the Revell suck kit...

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p3984.m570.l1313&_nkw=1%2F72+Lancaster&_sacat=220

Good luck avoiding the Suck...  Hope you don't get a "Monday kit" from a company that doesn't suck.. Cuz then you'll say they suck, too, lol...

Devil Dawg

Hans von Hammer:

Yeah.. But where's my 1/48 Stoof? (Grumman S2F Tracker for you folks in Rio Linda, CA.  S-Two-F=Stoof)

 

 

Sounds like someone listens to one of my favorite conservative talk radio personalities........

You're the first person here to ever catch that reference, Dawg...

Borg R3-MC0

Hans von Hammer:

Yeah.. But where's my 1/48 Stoof? (Grumman S2F Tracker for you folks in Rio Linda, CA.  S-Two-F=Stoof)

 

 

Kinetic makes 1/48 S-2, but I think it is not in the price range that you like your models to be:

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/kin/kit_kin_48024.shtml

LOL.. I saw that kit reviewed in the current issue of FSM not ten minutes after I wrote that post... I thought , GREAT!.. Then I read the review...

The price of 89.95 is about four times what I'd ever pay for a twin-engine aircraft kit in 1/48... It's no bigger than a Monogram B-25 (which comes in at under 20.00 bucks around here).  So, there still isn't a 1/48 Stoof available as far as I'm concerned...

From the FSM review: "Low parts-count, little detail in cockpit, no side consoles, basic seats, IP with raised squares devoid of detail, no detail in overhead console, no detail in aft compartment, bomb bay, no detail on inside of search-light, vague, incomplete instructions", and the review STILL said it was a good kit for intermediate modelers!  You kiddin' me?

For 89.95, it soinds like a pretty poor kit to me, but then, I don't think ANY kit reviewed by FSM reviewers EVER gets a "thumbs down"...

I'd say, 18.00 TOPS for that kit... The plus side is that I'd get to scratchbuild the missing stuff, but for that price, I shouldn't HAVE to...  Sounds as if they want to market an after-market detail set for another 45.00-50.00 for the unwary builder.. Betcher REAL money someone is already working on it, lol..

Hans von Hammer

Yeah.. But where's my 1/48 Stoof? (Grumman S2F Tracker for you folks in Rio Linda, CA.  S-Two-F=Stoof)

 

Sounds like someone listens to one of my favorite conservative talk radio personalities........

The only 1/48th kit that makes feel uneasy every time I open its box, is the Revell B-1. That one my friends I should have gone the 1/72 way.

HisNHer Tanks

When talking planes, I consider only two details.

First company. I am NOT making your model if your company sucks. I don't need ANY subject so badly I will suffer through a crummy kit just so I can have airplane X.

I have yet to see a company that entirely sucks or entirely rocks. They all spit every now and then crappy kit. If that kit happens to be the subject I want, that's not the criteria I use to ditch X o Y company.

Just my .02 cents.

When talking planes, I consider only two details.

First company. I am NOT making your model if your company sucks. I don't need ANY subject so badly I will suffer through a crummy kit just so I can have airplane X.

Second actual size. if I can't put it somewhere assembled, it has no value to me. So saying kit X is fricking awesome might be accurate, but if I can't display it, I don't want it.

I have a great Tamiya Lanc in 48th scale. The thing though is damn near impossible to display. I likely would be better off with a great kit of the Lanc in 72nd scale. The thing is, I am not aware of one as of this post. Not saying it doesn't exist.

I tend to build in 48th scale, but to be honest, I likely should be working in 72nd scale. Or rather, I likely should stick to subjects that are able to sit inside of an 8 inch square or very close to it.

Hans von Hammer

Yeah.. But where's my 1/48 Stoof? (Grumman S2F Tracker for you folks in Rio Linda, CA.  S-Two-F=Stoof)

 

Kinetic makes 1/48 S-2, but I think it is not in the price range that you like your models to be:

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/kin/kit_kin_48024.shtml

Yeah.. But where's my 1/48 Stoof? (Grumman S2F Tracker for you folks in Rio Linda, CA.  S-Two-F=Stoof)

Borg R3-MC0

Bish:

Hans von Hammer:

Y'all Jewlers get all the good subjects..

 

Ye, but not for long the way its going.

 

Both 1/48 and 1/32 are definitly seeing a lot more releases then they did in the past. Who would have thought that there would be a 1/48 Wirraway, Boomerang, Myrsky or a 1/32 He-100.

I can't see 32nd haveing the same range as 72nd, you might get the odd big bomber like a B-17 or such in that scale. but i can't see this scale going to far. But i think 48th will deffinatly match 72nd.

Bish

Hans von Hammer:

Y'all Jewlers get all the good subjects..

 

Ye, but not for long the way its going.

Both 1/48 and 1/32 are definitly seeing a lot more releases then they did in the past. Who would have thought that there would be a 1/48 Wirraway, Boomerang, Myrsky or a 1/32 He-100.

Hans von Hammer

Y'all Jewlers get all the good subjects..

Ye, but not for long the way its going.

There are a lot of aircraft that have only been kitted in 1/72.

Ya, that burns my tail sometimes... Y'all Jewlers get all the good subjects.. Even a PB4Y-2 (Matchbox).. But it's 30.00 bucks, so fergit it...

I like 1/72 scale, altough I have 1/48 kit as well. The thing I like about 1/72 is size (especially for multi engined planes) and selection. There are a lot of aircraft that have only been kitted in 1/72.

1/48 modern jets is big enough. only 32nd is WW2 aircraft. 

Ditto.. You can't appreciate the size of a Phantom or a Voodoo until you set 'em next to a Fokker Dr I...

Texgunner

When I returned to the world of scale modeling, I too decided on concentrating on 1/48 planes.  One reason was that I wanted to see the various planes in the same scale in order to understanding and appreciate their relative sizes. 

 That's exactly why I model in one scale.  It is interesting when you see how fighters have gone from fairly small to huge over the decades, although there are the occasional small aircraft along the way like the F-104 and A-4 Skyhawk.

[quote user="DoogsATX"]

I'll also add that I couldn't imagine going smaller than 1/32 with biplanes.

I felt the same way until a friend gave me the Eduard 1/48 scale Fokker DVII kit. The detail and quality is just incredible. I rather build it in 1/32 or the older Revell 1/28 scale ones that require some TLC but build up to very nice models despite their age. Now the WNW are just a work of art!

Reasoned

 

DoogsATX:

 

And for smaller fighters (Lavochkins, Yaks, 109s, etc) I think 1/32 is my preferred working scale. Of course, a 1/48 Yak-3 isn't THAT far off from a 1/72 P-47...

Speaking of which...there need to be more VVS aircraft in 1/32. I know Trumpy makes the Mig-3, and there's an Il-2 out there. But the Yaks. The LaGG-3, La-5/5FN, La-7. They'll get there one day I guess.

 

 

Amen to that.  My next project is the 1/48 Eduard "weekend" La-7 and there's not much plastic in the box!

Of course, there's a LOT more in that one than the 1/48 I-16 in my stash.

I've got the same La-7 (Profi-pack though, mainly for the marking options and Cartograf decals) and yeah, it's about as sparse as the Yak-3 I built last year.

The Zvezda La-5 has a lot more going on, but it's still tiny. I'd love to see what someone could put into a 1/32 with the exposed M82 radial, gun bays, etc.

Honestly, as good as their recent kits have been, I think Zvezda should be the ones to do it.

I'm a 1/48 guy, mostly cause of the subject matter I seem to buy more (multi-engined props). I do have single engined 48 props, and a couple of jets.  I mostly stick to 48 due to size, though i do have a 1/32 F4F, F6F and TBM mainly due to the fact that they have the wing fold option (saves space, whenever I get to building them).

I don't have a problem with either scale, only with 72 cause i can't hold the parts.  Right now its mostly space, more than anything.

I do have to agree, that the kit itself, plus AM stuff for 48 can add up the price of a 32 kit.

El Taino

Bish, I don't discriminate against 1/72. If display room is an issue, then 1/72 is a no brainer. Otherwise *to me* the cost plays a factor and considering that I have no display issues (so far), I prefer larger scales. Below you can see a common sample. It is a 1/72 Snap-Tite Hobby Boss Sabre for $10. If I want something better in that scale, I have either to get a more expensive option of the same subject or add some AM goodies to bring it up to the level of the Academy 1/48 OOB which cost only $30. At $30 bucks for the 1/48 I'm around $20 bucks more for the 1/32 Kinetic pictured below.

I certainly know what you mean about super detailing 72nd kits, if you want to go to town, you can spend a fourtune. But then the same goes for larger scales. But there are some nice detailed 72nd kits around, and it would stand to reason that they would be cheaper than a larger scale kit of the same detail.

Personally, price and space are not an issue for me. I will spend as much as i think it needs to get a kit to the standard i want, of course that doesn't mean when i build it it will be any good. My main reason is that its all i have ever known, and i am surprised at how amazed some people are at seeing the detail than can be gotten on a 72nd build. A couple of years ago, i decided i would get a small select collection of larger scale aircrfat to build as free standing models. I decided that 32 had the aircrfat types i wanted so went for that. So hopefully the detail on those should be a breeze after 72nd builds. It would just be nice if more people would consider 72nd as i am sure they would be surprised at what they find.

Hans von Hammer

Buy some 3-power readers and Charlie Mike...

I've never kept all the models I build.. I generally tear them down after I get tired of looking at them... If I'd kept all of them, I reckon I'd have about 1300-1500 models...

 

In a way, that's a shame, Hammer.  It would be pretty cool to see a whole collection like that, that was assembled (pun!) over time.  Understood, though, about where the heck to display them.

There's an old five-and-dime store south of me, Sine's, in Quakertown.  It has survived the arrival of Jamesway/Kmart/Walmart over the years.  They have a couple of large display windows on either side of their entrance, a frontage of maybe 50 or 60 feet.  And in those display windows is a collection of finished models, some, I think, were built by the owner's son, and others, by customers.  It's nice to see the collection, and people walking by can admire the work.

I go by there all the time but haven't stopped in in a lonnnnnngggggg time, so I don't know if they still stock any kits, but of course, back in the day, that was where a lot of boys in Q-town spent their chore money on models.

DoogsATX

And for smaller fighters (Lavochkins, Yaks, 109s, etc) I think 1/32 is my preferred working scale. Of course, a 1/48 Yak-3 isn't THAT far off from a 1/72 P-47...

Speaking of which...there need to be more VVS aircraft in 1/32. I know Trumpy makes the Mig-3, and there's an Il-2 out there. But the Yaks. The LaGG-3, La-5/5FN, La-7. They'll get there one day I guess.

Amen to that.  My next project is the 1/48 Eduard "weekend" La-7 and there's not much plastic in the box!

Of course, there's a LOT more in that one than the 1/48 I-16 in my stash.

DoogsATX

I'll also add that I couldn't imagine going smaller than 1/32 with biplanes.

I couldn't agree more, doogs. WnW has proven that. Nothing wrong with the Eduard kits, but I was amazed at how much more could be packed into one of those 1/32 scale puppies without them taking up any more display space than a 1/48 'jug.